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turtlespeed

This is an awesome argument for the legalization of weed

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Pretty sure small children have gotten into the beer or liquor and imitated the adults.

I've never understood why alcohol is legal and so many other things are not. Even therapeutic drugs require a license (prescription) to protect corporate profits. I say the individual should decide what to put in their body so long as I don't have to pay their insurance. If I do have to pay their insurance, I don't want them having recreational drugs at all.

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I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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OK, kids can be amazingly inventive in ways that adults never thought of.

When I was about 3, my parents had a cocktail party (after we were in bed, of course), and went to bed when it was over, leaving the used glasses on the kitchen counter.

When we woke up, my brothers and I (I'm the oldest, and must have been the ringleader) went downstairs instead of into our parents' bedroom (as was our consistent pattern). I saw all the pretty colors in the glasses, took a chair and moved it to the counter, and my brothers and I got snockered tasting the little bits in the bottom of the glasses.

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I would never consider my parents to have been negligent. Wrapping the kids in bubble wrap doesn't work, but that means that shit will happen.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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When I was a kid I drank my dad's vodka and sprite mixture when he went to the bathroom. I wanted to taste it, it was good, so I drank a drink. Needless to say, I likely had a good night's sleep. My dad and mom had a laugh, told me that was for adults, and that was it.
I think weed should be legal. I have never, and will never smoke it, but I am furious that people are locked up for several years over a fucking plant. What if some nutter went and decided to smoke some 4 leaf clovers and felt a "high", will we ban that too?!
They let child molesters walk away due to overcrowding, yet keep the weed smokers in jail for the "good of society". This appalls me.
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I like to boil things down to simple rules.

If it is harmful to you, don't do it to someone else.

I don't want someone else telling me what to do with my body, so I don't tell them what to do with theirs. As long as you aren't driving, shooting, or other activity that could harm another, smoke whatever you like. I don't care to.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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OK, kids can be amazingly inventive in ways that adults never thought of.

When I was about 3, my parents had a cocktail party (after we were in bed, of course), and went to bed when it was over, leaving the used glasses on the kitchen counter.

When we woke up, my brothers and I (I'm the oldest, and must have been the ringleader) went downstairs instead of into our parents' bedroom (as was our consistent pattern). I saw all the pretty colors in the glasses, took a chair and moved it to the counter, and my brothers and I got snockered tasting the little bits in the bottom of the glasses.

:)
I would never consider my parents to have been negligent. Wrapping the kids in bubble wrap doesn't work, but that means that shit will happen.

Wendy P.



Oh man
what I would give for security camera footage of your bad behaivor :D:D
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kids eating food off the ground outside are vulnerable to all sorts of consequences. Contamination, infectious diseases (eating shit is not healthy), even as simple as nuts if the child has an allergy.

You're not going to stop a 2 year old, they will put anything and everything in their mouths, but you could actually watch them outdoors, maybe?

And yes, it would be cool if people who buy pot brownies and other edibles take care to dispose of them responsibly.

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Watching them closely enough to stop all possible problems lends itself to being called overprotective. There's another thread on that :).

It's like skydiving -- you can understand and minimize the risks, but you can't eliminate them, and if you try to, you rob it of so much that you might as well quit.

But we all have different levels of "acceptable." My mother tells the story of my son coming up from the sandbox at the park with a nice still-soft lump of dogshit in his hand :)

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Watching them closely enough to stop all possible problems lends itself to being called overprotective. There's another thread on that :).



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About six months ago, a three year old girl that I watch from time to time, returned home after spending the day with her grandmother. The next morning her mother could not wake her up, 911 was called and they took her to the ER, where they could not arouse her, even with painful stimuli. They thought she was postictal from a severe seizure until the drug screen came back. It It turns out Grandma's new boyfriend is quite the baker and left some of his cookies out. A very scary experience.

I bet this happens way more often than most people think, up until the time this happened, I had no idea that pot could do that do a child.

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Watching them closely enough to stop all possible problems lends itself to being called overprotective. There's another thread on that :).



for older children, sure. But we're talking about a 2 year old here. They don't know enough to stay on the sidewalk, or to avoid cars in driveways. It's not overprotective to watch them closely enough to know and stop them before they get more than the first bite of crap on the sidewalk.

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I bet this happens way more often than most people think, up until the time this happened, I had no idea that pot could do that do a child.



Pot advocates have long maintained that there's never been a drug overdose from marijuana. Brownies have long been around, and your story is not the first one I've heard of kids getting them. (funny-sorta story of a SF baker delivering a whole lot to a class - apparently he baked both kinds and took the wrong ones)

so there's some sort of disconnect here.

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Yuh huh, and when my sister was wee, she found a jug in the fridge she thought was kool-aid. About 20 minutes later she comes staggering into the living room after having a glass of the folks' sangria. Good thing she didn't have more than 1; at the body weight of a toddler and the speed with which one can put down candy-flavored sugar water, it'd be easy to OD on alcohol long before the body's defense mechanism of vomiting kicks in. There are a lot more dangerous drugs that are legal and in households right now, and most of those are accompanied by very aggressive advertising.
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Watching them closely enough to stop all possible problems lends itself to being called overprotective. There's another thread on that :).

It's like skydiving -- you can understand and minimize the risks, but you can't eliminate them, and if you try to, you rob it of so much that you might as well quit.

But we all have different levels of "acceptable." My mother tells the story of my son coming up from the sandbox at the park with a nice still-soft lump of dogshit in his hand :)

Wendy P.



Do you agree that if it weren't legal, the cookie would have had a much higher probability of not getting into the hands of the 2 yo?
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Do you agree that if it weren't legal, the cookie would have had a much higher probability of not getting into the hands of the 2 yo?



That's the same stupid line of reasoning gun banners use. If guns where harder to get would the 5 year old not have shot his sister. The role reversal is hilarious. Either you are for personal responsibility or you aren't.

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