NC ultrasound law thrown out by judge

[rushmc 23]

FreefallingCari

That is absurd to me. The state, if they paid any welfare benefits, should go after the WOMEN.

Many years ago, a freind of mine got a divorce. He had one child with his ex and he faithfully paid support

After the divorce, she shacked up with a looser.
He had many unpaid judgements against him
My friends ex had a baby with this guy
Now she needed more day care
The looser would not pay her (and they still lived together)
So she sued her ex for more child support
(I was in court and withnessed the following)
she admitted on the stand that the baby was not from her ex and was from this looser
The judge then said he knew of all the judgments agains the looser but knew she needed more support so, he MADE the ex pay for her second baby

Life is not so simple huh......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[FreefallingCari 0]

It is within the law to allow women to request more child support, unfortunately, they may not use it for the correct reasons.

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[rushmc 23]

FreefallingCari

It is within the law to allow women to request more child support, unfortunately, they may not use it for the correct reasons.

Agreed
but for someone elses kid is madening

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 801]

Why should WE pay for that???

[rushmc 23]

normiss

Why should WE pay for that???

Not following you.....

I did not ask the gov to pay for it if that is what you mean

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 801]

Insurance.
We're all in this pool together.

I'm still missing the "government" portion of your argument anyway.

[wmw999 2,452]

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I actually had an IUD inserted into my uterus to ensure pregnancy would not be an issue, however, I understand many women's reluctance to do so.

They can also fail.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[kelpdiver 2]

DanG

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Freedom of speech

Don't see it. Example?

Not sure you're still following the thread (which seems like a great example to support banning speech), but...

The Democrats have been fairly aggressive, some more than others, at attacking bad speech. Hate speech laws are one topic that there is considerable difference of opinion.

A less defensible stance comes from Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement. Disliked persons like David Horowitz or conversely the more militant former Israeli PMs have been shouted out, prevented from speaking.

And like many Republicans, many Democrats do support attacks on porn, but not for having too much fun and sin, but rather as objectification of women.

[DanG 1]

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Not sure you're still following the thread (which seems like a great example to support banning speech), but...

Um, I guess that was a joke.

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The Democrats have been fairly aggressive, some more than others, at attacking bad speech. Hate speech laws are one topic that there is considerable difference of opinion.

I can agree that hate speech laws are anathma to the 1st Amedment. I wasn't aware of anyone pushing them from either side. Maybe I'm ill informed, or it's just a local thing.

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A less defensible stance comes from Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement. Disliked persons like David Horowitz or conversely the more militant former Israeli PMs have been shouted out, prevented from speaking.

Folks shouting speakers down is not an example of government assault on free speech rights. In fact, letting both sides yell at each other is respecting the free speech of all parties.

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And like many Republicans, many Democrats do support attacks on porn, but not for having too much fun and sin, but rather as objectification of women

I haven't seen anyone proposing laws to restrict porn based on objectifying women. I have seen laws restricting porn "for the children", but both sides do that.

- Dan G

[FreefallingCari 0]

wmw999

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I actually had an IUD inserted into my uterus to ensure pregnancy would not be an issue, however, I understand many women's reluctance to do so.

They can also fail.

Wendy P.

Very true! Thankfully, I have a choice

I am thankful that we have the technology to prevent pregnancy, as well as the medical means to terminate IF needed.

My point was that not all people are okay with choosing specific methods like 'snipping' or IUD's, such as the other poster or myself.

Skydiver Survivor; Battling Breast Cancer one jump at a time. DX June 19th 2014
I have been jumping since October 5th 2013.
https://pinkribbonskydiver.wordpress.com/

[kelpdiver 2]

DanG

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A less defensible stance comes from Berkeley, the home of the free speech movement. Disliked persons like David Horowitz or conversely the more militant former Israeli PMs have been shouted out, prevented from speaking.

Folks shouting speakers down is not an example of government assault on free speech rights. In fact, letting both sides yell at each other is respecting the free speech of all parties.

Protesting outside a lecture hall, sure... Rioting and preventing said person from speaking at all, no.

[rushmc 23]

FreefallingCari

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I actually had an IUD inserted into my uterus to ensure pregnancy would not be an issue, however, I understand many women's reluctance to do so.

They can also fail.

Wendy P.

Very true! Thankfully, I have a choice

I am thankful that we have the technology to prevent pregnancy, as well as the medical means to terminate IF needed.

My point was that not all people are okay with choosing specific methods like 'snipping' or IUD's, such as the other poster or myself.

Your chosen term did not go un-noticed

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

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Rioting and preventing said person from speaking at all, no.

You think citizens preventing a person from giving a speech at a certain venue is an example of government censorship of free speech? Particularly Democratic legislation against free speech?

- Dan G

[labrys 0]

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You think citizens preventing a person from giving a speech at a certain venue is an example of government censorship of free speech? Particularly Democratic legislation against free speech?

It works like this:

If you're mugged and you didn't have a handgun on your person to shoot the rat bastard in the face, it's the government's fault for failing to understand and enforce what the 2nd amendment means.

If you're verbally assaulted and you yell back louder, it's the government's fault for failing to understand and enforce what the 1st amendment means.

Owned by Remi #?

[kelpdiver 2]

DanG

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Rioting and preventing said person from speaking at all, no.

You think citizens preventing a person from giving a speech at a certain venue is an example of government censorship of free speech? Particularly Democratic legislation against free speech?

the topic was free speech, not the 1st Amendment which only concerns itself with the government. Nonetheless, the hate speech laws are an example of the latter.

It's really not too hard to get admit that a few (more than a few) people in Berkeley have betrayed the FSM. Hypocrisy is in no short supply in the Bay Area.