RonD1120 62 #1 January 22, 2014 I recently heard it stated that in America we are considered free to do all things unless specific law states otherwise. Conversely, in Great Britain and the European countries you are not allowed any freedoms unless granted by specific law. Reality check, is this true?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #2 January 22, 2014 Short answer: No. Slightly longer answer: It's obviously not true as it would not be possible to create a system of law based on an inclusion of legal activity basis rather than excluding illegal activities. Example: Am I free to stand on one leg in my own home holding my cock whilst singing about squirrels? Not unless a law says I can.... Yeah, right. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #3 January 22, 2014 CornishChrisShort answer: No. Slightly longer answer: It's obviously not true as it would not be possible to create a system of law based on an inclusion of legal activity basis rather than excluding illegal activities. Example: Am I free to stand on one leg in my own home holding my cock whilst singing about squirrels? Not unless a law says I can.... Yeah, right. On a related note...the Brits are rather eccentric and have some hobbies you would rather not know about...and a slight squirrel fetish.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #4 January 22, 2014 You can have my squirrel when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #5 January 22, 2014 RonD1120I recently heard it stated that in America we are considered free to do all things unless specific law states otherwise. Conversely, in Great Britain and the European countries you are not allowed any freedoms unless granted by specific law. Reality check, is this true? Complete nonsense and common sense would have told you that. P.S GB IS a European country so no need to separate them as you did (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #6 January 22, 2014 Interesting. I don't think of them as European. I've mentioned that to several Brits I work with and they agree. The PM likes to throw out the idea of a split from time to time...just for fun.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #7 January 22, 2014 I know what you mean... politically BUT on a far deeper and more meaningful note.. it is Part of the European continent..... Politics changes quickly... Geography less so (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 January 22, 2014 QuoteReality check, is this true? No. In fact, the UK and the US have a very similar legal system based on Commun Law (basing judicial decisions based on previous decisions). Some of Europe uses a very different system based on Civil Law which defines what is not legal.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #9 January 22, 2014 davjohnsInteresting. I don't think of them as European. I've mentioned that to several Brits I work with and they agree. The PM likes to throw out the idea of a split from time to time...just for fun. There is no doubt that GB is in Europe. Trying to figure out if a turk is european is at least a bit more challenging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 January 22, 2014 CornishChrisYou can have my squirrel when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. In Britain, if you like your squirrel, you can keep it. Absolutely. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 January 22, 2014 CornishChrisYou can have my squirrel when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. A real (Red) one or the yucky Grey one? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 January 22, 2014 RonD1120Reality check, is this true? Yes and no. It was what, at the time, separated the creation of the US from the entire rest of the planet. This was part of the basis for the original concept of American "exceptionalism." America is no longer an exception. Some parts of the planet have now caught up.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 January 22, 2014 Hey, I get it! In the UK, they don't spank monkeys, they spank squirrels! It actually does make sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 January 22, 2014 shropshire P.S GB IS a European country so no need to separate them as you did But their money isn't good enough for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #15 January 22, 2014 QuoteBut their money isn't good enough for you. But ours is more than good enough for them, we pay through the nose to be part of the EU.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #16 January 22, 2014 QuoteA real (Red) one or the yucky Grey one? What do you have against the black ones? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_squirrelOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #17 January 23, 2014 Thanks to all for the feedback. As for the common sense remark, it does not apply well in most of my interactions with the aforementioned. A baseline of common values must exist for common sense to be equally applied. To understand those values is my intrigue.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #18 January 23, 2014 Hi Ron Wading in late here but thinking about it I'd say we're about as free as the average American on most things, more than the average American on some things and not so much on others. I can purchase a .50 Cal rifle legally in the UK along with a .22 Semi auto rifle regardless of magazine capacity, folding stock etc which the average American can't do in some states, I can legally own a Drugunov or a Saiga with a 50 round mag. However the average UK citizen is not able to purchase legally a AR15 in .223. Other than that I don't really think theres anything that an American is free to do which a Brit isn't.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #19 January 23, 2014 quade***Reality check, is this true? Yes and no. It was what, at the time, separated the creation of the US from the entire rest of the planet. This was part of the basis for the original concept of American "exceptionalism." America is no longer an exception. Some parts of the planet have now caught up. The English had a Bill of Rights in 1689. I think the catching up was the other way around.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 January 23, 2014 kallend******Reality check, is this true? Yes and no. It was what, at the time, separated the creation of the US from the entire rest of the planet. This was part of the basis for the original concept of American "exceptionalism." America is no longer an exception. Some parts of the planet have now caught up. The English had a Bill of Rights in 1689. I think the catching up was the other way around. The UK still had a King and subjects.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #21 January 23, 2014 SkyradHi Ron Wading in late here but thinking about it I'd say we're about as free as the average American on most things, more than the average American on some things and not so much on others. Commercial aerial photography from a drone is legal in the UK and most of Europe, but still illegal in the USA. (Although the FAA has more pressing things to worry about than a realtor with a quadcopter taking pictures of a house for for sale, it is technically illegal to do that in the US).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #22 January 23, 2014 quade*********Reality check, is this true? Yes and no. It was what, at the time, separated the creation of the US from the entire rest of the planet. This was part of the basis for the original concept of American "exceptionalism." America is no longer an exception. Some parts of the planet have now caught up. The English had a Bill of Rights in 1689. I think the catching up was the other way around. The UK still had a King and subjects. So what? This whole business of "subjects" is totally bogus.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #23 January 23, 2014 Skyrad Other than [gun stuff] I don't really think theres anything that an American is free to do which a Brit isn't. Technically, a bit more freedom of speech and press (under both civil and criminal law) in the US (aside from porno laws in the US) than in the UK; though as a practical matter the difference is so little the average person would probably never notice it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #24 January 23, 2014 Andy9o8*** Other than [gun stuff] I don't really think theres anything that an American is free to do which a Brit isn't. Technically, a bit more freedom of speech and press (under both civil and criminal law) in the US (aside from porno laws in the US) than in the UK; though as a practical matter the difference is so little the average person would probably never notice it. When I came to the US (more than 3 decades ago) I was surprised that criminal defendants could effectively be tried in the media. It seemed that in the trade off between freedom of the press and the rights of a defendant, the UK and US chose to weigh them differently.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 January 23, 2014 Its my impression (and I could be wrong on this) that you can say some things in the USA which would see you potentially arrested in the UK. Certain hate crimes come to mind. There again you're more likely to see boobies on UK TV! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
