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The end for all the grammar-Nazis?

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Racism?

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Racial tensions are inflamed at the University of California at Los Angeles following several incidents — most notably, one where a professor corrected the grammar, punctuation and capitalization in minority students’ assignments....



I guess everybody belongs somehow to a minority.
Just be creative.

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Racism?

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Racial tensions are inflamed at the University of California at Los Angeles following several incidents — most notably, one where a professor corrected the grammar, punctuation and capitalization :Pcapitalisation in minority students’ assignments....



I guess everybody belongs somehow to a minority.
Just be creative.


>:(It's a school.. their job is to correct and educate ...

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I guess everybody belongs somehow to a minority.



And the minority to which you belong is those people who spell it "capitalisation".

From the ever popular Wikipedia:

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-ise, -ize (-isation, -ization)[edit]
See also: Oxford spelling
Origin and recommendations
According to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), "[T]he suffix...whatever the element to which it is added, is in its origin the Greek -ιζειν, Latin -izāre; and, as the pronunciation is also with z, there is no reason why in English the special French spelling in -iser should be followed, in opposition to that which is at once etymological and phonetic." The OED lists the -ise form separately, as "a frequent spelling of -IZE", and refuses to list the -ise spellings even as alternatives in the individual entries for words such as realize.[35] Noah Webster rejected -ise for the same reasons.[36] Two other well-known publications by Oxford University Press (OUP), Henry Watson Fowler's A Dictionary of Modern English Usage, and Hart's Rules,[37] also recommend -ize. Also, The Oxford Guide to English Usage states "-ize should be preferred to -ise as a verbal ending in words in which both are in use, according to Oxford University Press house style."[38] However, Robert Allan's Pocket Fowler's Modern English Usage considers either usage to be acceptable anywhere except the US.[39] Also, Oxford University itself does not agree with the OUP, but advocates "-ise" instead of "-ize" in its staff style guide.[40]


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jakee

******I would have capitaliZed "Nazi".



I would have put the period inside the quote. ;)

I wouldn't.

And, I understand why you and the Attorney do not place them inside. Across the pond, you use the King's/Queen's English and grammar. The Attorney obviously didn't take any English grammar classes prior to law school, so he defaults to the rule of grammar in written English law.

Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue >
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*********I would have capitaliZed "Nazi".



I would have put the period inside the quote. ;)

I wouldn't.

And, I understand why you and the Attorney do not place them inside. Across the pond, you use the King's/Queen's English and grammar.

I don't know whether it's technically correct and I don't really care, I just don't see how it makes sense to put a full stop inside a quote unless you're specifically quoting a full stop. It's wierd!

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Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue >



And I just said I wouldn't.

Frankly, beyond spelling, most punctuation and some tenses there's very little formal english grammar that makes a blind bit of difference. Just make it up as you go along, it's a bastardised Frankenstein's monster of a language anyway;)
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************I would have capitaliZed "Nazi".



I would have put the period inside the quote. ;)

I wouldn't.

And, I understand why you and the Attorney do not place them inside. Across the pond, you use the King's/Queen's English and grammar.

I don't know whether it's technically correct and I don't really care, I just don't see how it makes sense to put a full stop inside a quote unless you're specifically quoting a full stop. It's wierd!

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Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue >



And I just said I wouldn't.

;)

The period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted.
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The period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted.



It may be that I need an example of what your communicating; but, in checking the normal resources like, 1) Holt Handbook, AP Style and Chicago Manual of... Could not find a case where the period goes outside the quote. Even when its quotes within quotes.

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/period-goes-inside-quotation-marks/

http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp


http://go.hrw.com/hhb/
(which I have to keep nearby when grading college papers.) Having said all this; I'm not so much the grammar police as long as it doesn't interfere with the message.
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Could not find a case where the period goes outside the quote. Even when its quotes within quotes.



Then only instance I know of where it goes outside the quotes is when the quote contains only a single letter or number.

For example:
What did you get on the final exam?
I got an "A".
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The period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted.



That's the way I do it.

And that makes it right.



Of course.
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The period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted.



That's the way I do it.

And that makes it right.



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Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue >



I think you mean "…" not "...", as three full stops is not actually the same as an ellipsis.

:D

If there is an omission in the center; you would be correct.

e.g., "I think ... the same as an ellipsis."
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Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue >



I think you mean "…" not "...", as three full stops is not actually the same as an ellipsis.

:D

If there is an omission in the center; you would be correct.

e.g., "I think ... the same as an ellipsis."

Aposiopesis is an appropriate use of an ellipsis as well, though.
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