phantomII 37 #1 January 28, 2014 Racism? QuoteRacial tensions are inflamed at the University of California at Los Angeles following several incidents — most notably, one where a professor corrected the grammar, punctuation and capitalization in minority students’ assignments.... I guess everybody belongs somehow to a minority. Just be creative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #2 January 28, 2014 phantomII Racism? Quote Racial tensions are inflamed at the University of California at Los Angeles following several incidents — most notably, one where a professor corrected the grammar, punctuation and capitalization capitalisation in minority students’ assignments.... I guess everybody belongs somehow to a minority. Just be creative. It's a school.. their job is to correct and educate ... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #3 January 28, 2014 QuoteI guess everybody belongs somehow to a minority. And the minority to which you belong is those people who spell it "capitalisation". From the ever popular Wikipedia: Quote-ise, -ize (-isation, -ization)[edit] See also: Oxford spelling Origin and recommendations According to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), "[T]he suffix...whatever the element to which it is added, is in its origin the Greek -ιζειν, Latin -izāre; and, as the pronunciation is also with z, there is no reason why in English the special French spelling in -iser should be followed, in opposition to that which is at once etymological and phonetic." The OED lists the -ise form separately, as "a frequent spelling of -IZE", and refuses to list the -ise spellings even as alternatives in the individual entries for words such as realize.[35] Noah Webster rejected -ise for the same reasons.[36] Two other well-known publications by Oxford University Press (OUP), Henry Watson Fowler's A Dictionary of Modern English Usage, and Hart's Rules,[37] also recommend -ize. Also, The Oxford Guide to English Usage states "-ize should be preferred to -ise as a verbal ending in words in which both are in use, according to Oxford University Press house style."[38] However, Robert Allan's Pocket Fowler's Modern English Usage considers either usage to be acceptable anywhere except the US.[39] Also, Oxford University itself does not agree with the OUP, but advocates "-ise" instead of "-ize" in its staff style guide.[40] For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #4 January 28, 2014 I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #5 January 28, 2014 Andy9o8I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". You know who else capitalized "Nazi?" Hitler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,323 #6 January 28, 2014 Andy9o8 I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". I would have put the period inside the quote. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #7 January 28, 2014 Unlike the question mark. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #8 January 28, 2014 BIGUN ***I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". I would have put the period inside the quote. I wouldn't.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #9 January 28, 2014 Is someone trying to capitalize on capitalisation?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 January 28, 2014 jakee ******I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". I would have put the period inside the quote. I wouldn't. Nor I. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #11 January 28, 2014 Andy9o8 *********I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". I would have put the period inside the quote. I wouldn't. Nor I. I don't believe you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,323 #12 January 28, 2014 jakee ******I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". I would have put the period inside the quote. I wouldn't. And, I understand why you and the Attorney do not place them inside. Across the pond, you use the King's/Queen's English and grammar. The Attorney obviously didn't take any English grammar classes prior to law school, so he defaults to the rule of grammar in written English law. Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue >Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #13 January 28, 2014 BIGUN *********I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". I would have put the period inside the quote. I wouldn't. And, I understand why you and the Attorney do not place them inside. Across the pond, you use the King's/Queen's English and grammar. I don't know whether it's technically correct and I don't really care, I just don't see how it makes sense to put a full stop inside a quote unless you're specifically quoting a full stop. It's wierd! Quote Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue > And I just said I wouldn't. Frankly, beyond spelling, most punctuation and some tenses there's very little formal english grammar that makes a blind bit of difference. Just make it up as you go along, it's a bastardised Frankenstein's monster of a language anywayDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 January 28, 2014 QuoteThe Attorney obviously didn't take any English grammar classes prior to law school, Yeah, that's it, not a one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #15 January 28, 2014 jakee ************I would have capitaliZed "Nazi". I would have put the period inside the quote. I wouldn't. And, I understand why you and the Attorney do not place them inside. Across the pond, you use the King's/Queen's English and grammar. I don't know whether it's technically correct and I don't really care, I just don't see how it makes sense to put a full stop inside a quote unless you're specifically quoting a full stop. It's wierd! Quote Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue > And I just said I wouldn't. The period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,323 #16 January 29, 2014 kallendThe period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted. It may be that I need an example of what your communicating; but, in checking the normal resources like, 1) Holt Handbook, AP Style and Chicago Manual of... Could not find a case where the period goes outside the quote. Even when its quotes within quotes. http://www.dailywritingtips.com/period-goes-inside-quotation-marks/ http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp http://go.hrw.com/hhb/ (which I have to keep nearby when grading college papers.) Having said all this; I'm not so much the grammar police as long as it doesn't interfere with the message.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,323 #17 January 29, 2014 You know I was screwin with ya.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #18 January 29, 2014 Quote Could not find a case where the period goes outside the quote. Even when its quotes within quotes. Then only instance I know of where it goes outside the quotes is when the quote contains only a single letter or number. For example: What did you get on the final exam? I got an "A". For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #19 January 29, 2014 BIGUN You know I was screwin with ya. Yup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 January 29, 2014 Quote The period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted. That's the way I do it. And that makes it right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #21 January 29, 2014 Andy9o8Quote The period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted. That's the way I do it. And that makes it right. Of course.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #22 January 29, 2014 BIGUN Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue > I think you mean "…" not "...", as three full stops is not actually the same as an ellipsis. cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #23 January 29, 2014 Andy9o8Quote The period (full stop) goes inside the quotes only if it is part of the original text that is being quoted. That's the way I do it. And that makes it right. Opinions are like orgasms: I'm happy if you have one, but only mine actually matterscavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,323 #24 January 29, 2014 grue *** Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue > I think you mean "…" not "...", as three full stops is not actually the same as an ellipsis. If there is an omission in the center; you would be correct. e.g., "I think ... the same as an ellipsis."Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #25 January 30, 2014 BIGUN ****** Now, if you'll both look - I didn't say it was wrong; I said, "I would have..." sticks out tongue > I think you mean "…" not "...", as three full stops is not actually the same as an ellipsis. If there is an omission in the center; you would be correct. e.g., "I think ... the same as an ellipsis." Aposiopesis is an appropriate use of an ellipsis as well, though.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites