RonD1120 62 #1 February 26, 2014 Do you suppose the family of Fusilier Lee Rigby is comforted by this humane justice? QuoteLONDON – An Al Qaeda-inspired extremist was sentenced to life without parole Wednesday for hacking an off-duty British soldier to death on a London street in front of horrified passers-by. Images of Michael Adebolajo, 29, holding a butcher knife and cleaver with bloodied hands in the moments after the May 22 killing of Fusilier Lee Rigby shocked people around the world and sparked fears of Islamist terrorism in Britain. The self-described "soldier of Allah" was sentenced at Central Criminal Court along with his accomplice, 22-year-old Michael Adebowale, who was sentenced to life with a minimum of 45 years in jail because of his age and lesser role in the murder. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/02/26/al-qaeda-inspired-extremist-guilty-killing-british-soldier-gets-life-sentence/Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #2 February 26, 2014 QuoteRigby's family said after the sentencing that they were satisfied justice has been served.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #3 February 27, 2014 RonD1120Do you suppose the family of Fusilier Lee Rigby is comforted by this humane justice? QuoteLONDON – An Al Qaeda-inspired extremist was sentenced to life without parole Wednesday for hacking an off-duty British soldier to death on a London street in front of horrified passers-by. Images of Michael Adebolajo, 29, holding a butcher knife and cleaver with bloodied hands in the moments after the May 22 killing of Fusilier Lee Rigby shocked people around the world and sparked fears of Islamist terrorism in Britain. The self-described "soldier of Allah" was sentenced at Central Criminal Court along with his accomplice, 22-year-old Michael Adebowale, who was sentenced to life with a minimum of 45 years in jail because of his age and lesser role in the murder. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/02/26/al-qaeda-inspired-extremist-guilty-killing-british-soldier-gets-life-sentence/ A two week/natural life sentence works for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 February 27, 2014 We don't do state sponsored murder in civilised countries (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #5 February 27, 2014 shropshire We don't do state sponsored murder in civilised countries http://rt.com/news/uk-soldiers-kill-boys-340/ apparently these fellas missed that memo.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #6 February 27, 2014 I quite like the fact that they waited for the judgement on a ruling regarding whether Whole Life sentences were legal or not (they were deemed to be, although are not in most of Europe) before sentencing. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #7 February 27, 2014 shropshire We don't do state sponsored murder in civilised countries So if you have a Rottweiler snarling and snapping and foaming at the mouth you are limited to locking it up? With a seriously sick puppy, the humane thing to do is to put it to sleep. All too often, the odds that it will ever get better are a solid zero, and keeping it alive represents a threat to those near it in captivity and certainly to the world at large should it ever be set free. In the case of the nice person who was recently convicted, you may think of the approach as 'death therapy.' How about 'occupational therapy?' You know, 'getting into agriculture' in the sense of 'buying the farm?' "They now bring peace and beauty to the world by pushing up daisies!" It's all how you look at it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 February 27, 2014 It's an interesting debate and one which does and will continue to crop up fro time to time (dare I say it, often as a knee-jerk to an individual crime). Now at the same time that 'we' did not kill these killers, 'we' let off a whole bunch of Irish Terrorists!! Who would not be free to go if the murdering scum had been executed for their crimes... All in all, I support our no-kill judiciary. If someone killed someone I love, I'd want them dead though - but that's not justice, it's revenge. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #9 February 27, 2014 You nailed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #10 February 27, 2014 normiss You nailed it. Cheers (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #11 February 27, 2014 RonD1120Do you suppose the family of Fusilier Lee Rigby is comforted by this humane justice? Yes. Anything else?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #12 February 27, 2014 QuoteSo if you have a Rottweiler snarling and snapping and foaming at the mouth you are limited to locking it up? No. But what does that have to do with it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 February 27, 2014 jakeeQuoteSo if you have a Rottweiler snarling and snapping and foaming at the mouth you are limited to locking it up? No. But what does that have to do with it? Well, it's obvious: bad analogies are like, well... oatmeal without garden shears: both can give you hives. OK, maybe not. But they're always a good fall-back to feed the simple masses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #14 February 27, 2014 jakeeQuoteSo if you have a Rottweiler snarling and snapping and foaming at the mouth you are limited to locking it up? No. But what does that have to do with it? Pretty simple. One is not being unfair to a rabid dog when euthanizing it, and doing the same to criminals who are unsafe ever to release into society is a valid approach. Of course, I have to assume you are simply being obtuse here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #15 February 27, 2014 QuoteOne is not being unfair to a rabid dog when euthanizing it, and doing the same to criminals who are unsafe ever to release into society is a valid approach. Of course, I have to assume you are simply being obtuse here. Then I guess I'll have to assume you're unaware of any difference between a dog and a person. Try reading Animal Farm - Orwell does a really simple breakdown of the difference between 2 legs and 4 legs.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #16 February 27, 2014 >So if you have a Rottweiler snarling and snapping and foaming at the mouth you >are limited to locking it up? If it's cheaper than shooting it - absolutely! Most people have better things to do with their money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 February 28, 2014 yes I do seeing as they said so. Also these idiots were no more AQ than any other psycho that goes out and kills for shit and giggles. Even the judge said they were not part of a wider network in his sentencing. I don't have an issue with the DP in certain circumstances, it gets handed out to often in many countries that have it and isn't a deterrent. Even if we had it in this country I would be against these two being given it as they wanted to die 'martyrs'. Let them rot for the rest of there lives in obscurity, thats the right call on this one.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #18 February 28, 2014 Skyradyes I do seeing as they said so. Also these idiots were no more AQ than any other psycho that goes out and kills for shit and giggles. Even the judge said they were not part of a wider network in his sentencing. I don't have an issue with the DP in certain circumstances, it gets handed out to often in many countries that have it and isn't a deterrent. Even if we had it in this country I would be against these two being given it as they wanted to die 'martyrs'. Let them rot for the rest of there lives in obscurity, thats the right call on this one. I understand your point. It's like the masochist crying, beat me, beat me and the sadist saying no.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #19 March 1, 2014 "Also these idiots were no more AQ than any other psycho that goes out and kills for shit and giggles." BS. IF they wanted to die 'martyrs', what cause were they willing to die for? Southern Baptist? They did not kill "for shit and giggles". They knew exactly who they were killing, and it doesn't matter if they trained for this overseas or were "internet home grown terrorists". They eliminated one more Infidel who will never return to the battlefield to kill their Islamic brothers.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #20 March 1, 2014 I think that you're reading WAY too much into it... These to wanna be's are just punks out t try to make a name for them selves. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #21 March 1, 2014 It worked.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #22 March 1, 2014 rickjump1"Also these idiots were no more AQ than any other psycho that goes out and kills for shit and giggles." BS. IF they wanted to die 'martyrs', what cause were they willing to die for? Southern Baptist? They did not kill "for shit and giggles". They knew exactly who they were killing, and it doesn't matter if they trained for this overseas or were "internet home grown terrorists". They eliminated one more Infidel who will never return to the battlefield to kill their Islamic brothers. Way to miss a point, They were not and are not AQ.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #23 March 1, 2014 rickjump1It worked. not for long ... their court room grandstanding will son be forgotten.... next news story ....... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 March 1, 2014 shropshire I think that you're reading WAY too much into it... These two wanna be's are just punks out to try to make a name for themselves. No virgins for either of them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #25 March 3, 2014 QuoteOne is not being unfair to a rabid dog when euthanizing it, and doing the same to criminals who are unsafe ever to release into society is a valid approach. When I don't want an animal anymore, I can have it euthanized. Or, alternatively I can give it to local animal control/humane society and if they cannot find a quitable "home" within a very short time frame, they will euthanize it. When I can legally start doing that with human family members, your analogy makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites