Andy9o8 2 #176 March 7, 2014 I have the solution: a pox on both their houses; bomb the Syrians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelyubin 0 #177 March 7, 2014 And why not Germans, Canadians or Americans? They after all interfere with the Ukrainian affairs and directed on the Maidan of the representatives and ministers. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
REDAKTOR 2 #178 March 10, 2014 yoink If Russia starts a coup or murdering Ukranian citizens, then fine - an international action should be taken They have, and they did. Coup in Crimea, and at least 40 killed by russian sniper in Kiev. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
REDAKTOR 2 #179 March 10, 2014 Nelyubin 3) The authorities in Kiev (not in Ukraine) came candid Nazis . You can leave the russian propaganda to ignorant idiots Nelyubin They openly threatened the families of Russian troops in the Crimea. They did? Really? Any proof to that? A recording maybe, a statement? Nelyubin They have already started their arrests of political opponents. They did? Really? Any proof to that? And who are those opponents excactly? Nelyubin In this situation, Putin asked for advice on how to enter the federation additional troops to protect the families of Russian servicemen. You can call military invasion what you want, it's still military invasion. And for the last time, there are no Nazi running around Ukraine. There are some minor groups, but no mere than in any other counrty, and definately a lot less than in russia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelyubin 0 #180 March 11, 2014 REDAKTOR*** If Russia starts a coup or murdering Ukranian citizens, then fine - an international action should be taken They have, and they did. Coup in Crimea, and at least 40 killed by russian sniper in Kiev.Mercenaries of the Maidan shot, it is well known to you. For this reason the modern power in Kiev refused to make investigation of murders. Only leakage of telephone conversation forced them to begin investigation. QuoteYou can leave the russian propaganda to ignorant idiots Paul Craig Roberts full idiot? Read its article. QuoteThey did? Really? Any proof to that? A recording maybe, a statement? They did? Really? Any proof to that? And who are those opponents excactly? The security service of Ukraine (KGB) conducts arrests in Donetsk and Kharkov.http://www.nr2.ru/kiev/487928.html http://www.nr2.ru/kiev/488319.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2014/03/140309_donetsk_gubarev_arrest.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/03/140307_regions_governors_ukraine_letters.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2014/02/140225_ukraine_klyuyev_wounded.shtml QuoteYou can call military invasion what you want, it's still military invasion. While invasion isn't present. If suffers though one Russian - "who will offend us that three days won't live". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
REDAKTOR 2 #181 March 11, 2014 Nelyubin Mercenaries of the Maidan shot, it is well known to you. *** What mercenaries? These the ones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ1LCI_HmuQ Funny how they look just like Ukrainian police and special forces, huh? *** For this reason the modern power in Kiev refused to make investigation of murders. *** Ivestigations began a few days after the massacre, would you like me to present you media states and photos of criminal investigation experts on site? *** leakage of telephone conversation*** Have you actually heard or read the transcript of that phone call? Or Are you just citing the russian representation of that conversation, provided by your "objective" media? *** The security service of Ukraine (KGB) conducts arrests in Donetsk and Kharkov.http://www.nr2.ru/kiev/487928.html http://www.nr2.ru/kiev/488319.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2014/03/140309_donetsk_gubarev_arrest.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/03/140307_regions_governors_ukraine_letters.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2014/02/140225_ukraine_klyuyev_wounded.shtml There are no kgb in Ukraine, not since 1991 http://www.skycentre.net/style_emoticons/default/facepalm.gif We have Ukraine Security Service. Nelyubin While invasion isn't present. If suffers though one Russian - "who will offend us that three days won't live". You might wanna stop using google translate pal, because your quotes make little sense that way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelyubin 0 #182 March 12, 2014 QuoteWhat mercenaries? These the ones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ1LCI_HmuQ Funny how they look just like Ukrainian police and special forces, huh? Yes, it is militia. Only shots are audible on the other hand. Obviously. QuoteHave you actually heard or read the transcript of that phone call? Or Are you just citing the russian representation of that conversation, provided by your "objective" media? To you laziness was to follow the link above? Well listen here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCLJSdzzU6o BBC the most false "Russian" information agency. :D http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling_news/2014/03/140305_rn_paet_ashton_snipers.shtml Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #183 March 18, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26630062 Putin officially accepts Crimea as part of Russia - a move the UN and EU have said is illegal. But I' not sure we can, or even want to do anything about it... It's not like the UN is going to send in peacekeeper troops, and Putin will just laugh at typical soft sanctions. The questions is what does he do next, if he thinks he can get away with this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #184 March 18, 2014 Andy9o8I have the solution: a pox on both their houses; bomb the Syrians. OK, now I have another solution: the US should invade and annex Nova Scotia. That would show Putin we're tough, and mean business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #185 March 18, 2014 QuoteOK, now I have another solution: the US should invade and annex Nova Scotia. That would show Putin we're tough, and mean business. NS? WTF? Very few Canuckleheads would have a problem if you just went for the bigger prize and invaded and annexed Quebec. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #186 March 18, 2014 No sub base or vacation villas though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #187 March 18, 2014 CanuckInUSAQuoteOK, now I have another solution: the US should invade and annex Nova Scotia. That would show Putin we're tough, and mean business. NS? WTF? Very few Canuckleheads would have a problem if you just went for the bigger prize and invaded and annexed Quebec. We could never successfully invade Quebec. The street signs are all in a different language."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #188 March 18, 2014 yoinkThe questions is what does he do next, if he thinks he can get away with this? Well, watch the eastern border of Ukraine. That's going to tell us a lot. Nobody whose country it isn't wants to get involved in combat. I have to agree with that stance too. War is expensive, and deadly, and not good for the overall well being of the planet or mankind. Pushed hard enough though and that's not off the table. Putin knows this and I think that's his long term strategy; find the edge nobody is willing to die for, push a bit, wait a bit, see if you can find another edge to push.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #189 March 18, 2014 quade***The questions is what does he do next, if he thinks he can get away with this? Well, watch the eastern border of Ukraine. That's going to tell us a lot. Nobody whose country it isn't wants to get involved in combat. I have to agree with that stance too. War is expensive. Pushed hard enough though and that's not off the table. Putin knows this and I think that's his long term strategy; find the edge nobody is willing to die for, push a bit, wait a bit, see if you can find another edge to push. Putin is just trying way to hard to look really butch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #190 March 18, 2014 AmazonPutin is just trying way to hard to look really butch That differs from 90% of all men on the planet, how?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #191 March 18, 2014 You would think the ethnic cleansing by Stalin would have been enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #192 March 18, 2014 normiss You would think the ethnic cleansing by Stalin would have been enough. It's anthropological. I do not approve by any means, but I understand the urge.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #193 March 18, 2014 Russia is getting impatient too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SMS 0 #194 March 18, 2014 QuotePutin is just trying way to hard to look really butch No, Putin has not had to try very hard to make the US, and all its spineless followers and BS pundits, look like hypocritical idiots. Any sanctions against Russia would negatively effect the USA and Europe more than it would Russia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #195 March 18, 2014 quade***The questions is what does he do next, if he thinks he can get away with this? Well, watch the eastern border of Ukraine. That's going to tell us a lot. Nobody whose country it isn't wants to get involved in combat. I have to agree with that stance too. War is expensive, and deadly, and not good for the overall well being of the planet or mankind. Pushed hard enough though and that's not off the table. Putin knows this and I think that's his long term strategy; find the edge nobody is willing to die for, push a bit, wait a bit, see if you can find another edge to push. I agree. There's argument to be made that he thinks he can get away with the Crimea move because nobody batted an eye when he annexed parts of Georgia into new Russian Protectorates a couple of years back. I'm sure he's eying up former soviet countries for little bits he can snip off in the guise of 'legitimate border unrest / safety concerns'.... He's a nutter, but one that's good at playing the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #196 March 18, 2014 Andy9o8***I have the solution: a pox on both their houses; bomb the Syrians. OK, now I have another solution: the US should invade and annex Nova Scotia. That would show Putin we're tough, and mean business. How about Canada invades and burns Washington DC and KEEPS IT THIS TIME?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #197 March 18, 2014 I'm good for some support. What web page to I click on to make a difference? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #198 March 18, 2014 quade***Putin is just trying way to hard to look really butch That differs from 90% of all men on the planet, how? Putin gave a little sermon about 7 months ago about how military action was only supportable for defensive needs, or signoff from the UN Sec council. It will be hard for him to try that approach again, and his neutering of it goes well past what the two Bushes did wrt Iraq. As for Europe needing Russia more than the other way around....it's very dangerous for a nation to rely on a single commodity for over half its income. We usually call them banana republics. They may not be able to reduce their oil/gas dependency on a dime, but given a decade, it could get a bit uncomfortable for mother Russia, just as it has for Iraq and Iran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #199 March 18, 2014 This isn't going to be reversed by any nation or group of them. No way. Russia has their own Cuba now. So...how soon before we get Patriot missile batteries in the Ukrainian portion of the base? Hello Cold War! Where ya been? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #200 March 19, 2014 normiss This isn't going to be reversed by any nation or group of them. No way. Russia has their own Cuba now. So...how soon before we get Patriot missile batteries in the Ukrainian portion of the base? Hello Cold War! Where ya been? I liked the part where they sank an old freighter in the entrance to the Ukrainian Naval Base... So they have their warm water port.. or do they. I wonder how a few old derelicts would work in the Bosporus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
