GD64 1 #1 March 2, 2014 Yes, especially those black, high-capacity, assault ones. Condolences to family and friends of the dead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #2 March 2, 2014 GD64Yes, especially those black, high-capacity, assault ones. Condolences to family and friends of the dead. Condolences - Of course, but if we didn't have the clips that held so many knives and just had shot knives this wouldn't have happened. Period!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #3 March 2, 2014 "Twenty-nine people were killed and 130 were injured Saturday night when 10 men armed...." Cho killed more than this on his own. As did Breivik. Lanza killed 26 on his own. Of course, they didn't use knives.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #4 March 2, 2014 I bet the victims of this attack wish they had guns to defend themselves with. Guns are equalizers. Even a little old lady can defend herself from much bigger,stronger,and better trained combatants,if she has a gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #5 March 2, 2014 Iago 29 Dead, 100+ Wounded in China rail station Regardless of your stance on knife control, none of this would have happened if none of them had access to knives. And they don't have a use for knives anyways, they use chopsticks...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #6 March 2, 2014 >they use chopsticks... Chopsticks could be deadly if sharpened up. Then put then in a high capacity belt pouch and you basically have a high capacity chopstick magazine. Chopsticks should be banned along with all knives,forks,sporks,spoons that could hold an edge,pencils,pens.rocks,sticks.... ha ha ha ha ha I actual watched an interview of a progressive liberal who said all of this minus the chopsticks,but I'm sure he would have wanted them banned as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 March 2, 2014 The idiotic, false equivalency being drawn in this thread was inevitable. /sigh There is literally no hope for humanity.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #8 March 3, 2014 Excuse me... Did you say knives? Rotating knives, yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 March 3, 2014 quadeThe idiotic, false equivalency being drawn in this thread was inevitable. /sigh There is literally no hope for humanity. Absolutely. Remember when the failure of humanity was exemplified by grous of people committing mass murder? I'm heartened that we've come far enough in our societal enlightenment to see that those poor souls who had to kill people with sharp objects aren't the worst. It's the people who point out how dangerous knives are who are evidence that there - LITERALLY - no hope for humanity. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 March 3, 2014 Humanity is empathy for your fellow man. The people in this thread making the false equivalency in order to push an completely unrelated agenda have none. Therefore, there is literally no hope for humanity here. If a person's first thought after a mass killing is to make a stupid joke to "win" pundit points, then that person is a horrible person. People like that should be ashamed of themselves. End of story.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 March 3, 2014 quade Humanity is empathy for your fellow man. The people in this thread making the false equivalency in order to push an completely unrelated agenda have none. Therefore, there is literally no hope for humanity here. If a person's first thought after a mass killing is to make a stupid joke to "win" pundit points, then that person is a horrible person. People like that should be ashamed of themselves. End of story. Everybody was Kung foo fighting.... those fists were fast as lightning... CRAP now that music will not get out of my HEAD..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #12 March 3, 2014 Iago 29 Dead, 100+ Wounded in China rail station Regardless of your stance on knife control, none of this would have happened if none of them had access to knives. Not exactly cutting edge terrorismcavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #13 March 3, 2014 Evil people will do evil. It's the only method of identifying them. Take away one tool, they will pick up another.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #14 March 3, 2014 davjohnsEvil people will do evil. It's the only method of identifying them. Take away one tool, they will pick up another. Some tools are more equal than others.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #15 March 3, 2014 Iago 29 Dead, 100+ Wounded in China rail station Regardless of your stance on knife control, none of this would have happened if none of them had access to knives. Regardless of your stance on gun control, more people would have been dead if this guy had used firearms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #16 March 3, 2014 toolboxI bet the victims of this attack wish they had guns to defend themselves with. Guns are equalizers. Even a little old lady can defend herself from much bigger,stronger,and better trained combatants,if she has a gun. Then Americans must be mighty stupid, cause even with all those guns, you guys keep shooting eachother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #17 March 3, 2014 SkyDekker*** 29 Dead, 100+ Wounded in China rail station Regardless of your stance on knife control, none of this would have happened if none of them had access to knives. Regardless of your stance on gun control, more people would have been dead if this guy had used firearms. Or, someone in the crowd would have stopped it cold. Every coin has two sides. Predicting what might have been is a very tricky business. What if it was a suicide bomber? Nerve gas? Train derailment (intentional)? Pressure cooker bomb? Evil people will do evil.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #18 March 3, 2014 davjohns****** 29 Dead, 100+ Wounded in China rail station Regardless of your stance on knife control, none of this would have happened if none of them had access to knives. Regardless of your stance on gun control, more people would have been dead if this guy had used firearms. Or, someone in the crowd would have stopped it cold. Every coin has two sides. Predicting what might have been is a very tricky business. What if it was a suicide bomber? Nerve gas? Train derailment (intentional)? Pressure cooker bomb? Evil people will do evil. Exactly....which is why I always chuckle at people saying that an outcome is inevitable regardless of the availability of tools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #19 March 3, 2014 davjohns Or, someone in the crowd would have stopped it cold. Every coin has two sides. Predicting what might have been is a very tricky business. What if it was a suicide bomber? Nerve gas? Train derailment (intentional)? Pressure cooker bomb? Evil people will do evil. Predicting the results of any one incident can be very tricky. In the aggregate (statistically), not so much."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #20 March 3, 2014 quadeIf a person's first thought after a mass killing is to make a stupid joke to "win" pundit points, then that person is a horrible person. People like that should be ashamed of themselves. End of story. If only George Bush would have been more diplomatic with China. None of this would have happened. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #21 March 3, 2014 SkyDekker*** 29 Dead, 100+ Wounded in China rail station Regardless of your stance on knife control, none of this would have happened if none of them had access to knives. Regardless of your stance on gun control, more people would have been dead if this guy had used firearms. THESE GUYS. Apparently there were 10 of them.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #22 March 3, 2014 davjohns****** 29 Dead, 100+ Wounded in China rail station Regardless of your stance on knife control, none of this would have happened if none of them had access to knives. Regardless of your stance on gun control, more people would have been dead if this guy had used firearms. Or, someone in the crowd would have stopped it cold. Every coin has two sides. Predicting what might have been is a very tricky business. The article said there were 10 attackers. So what is the "someone" in the crowd going to do about 10 people armed with guns making a coordinated attack? Or say there had been 20 armed people in the crowd. Now speculate on how 20 random people with guns, not knowing who is who, would have fared against 10 armed, coordinated attackers.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #23 March 3, 2014 quadeThe idiotic, false equivalency being drawn in this thread was inevitable. /sigh There is literally no hope for humanity. "When the world says, "Give up," Hope whispers, 'Try it one more time.' " ~ UnknownDo your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #24 March 3, 2014 Judging by events in recent history (Kenya 2013, Mumbai 2008) had the attackers had firearms the death toll would have been on the order of double and maybe 50% more injured. I say this without detailed knowledge of the layout of the train station or how much time they spent planning the attack though. Coordinated use of high-explosives (London 2005, Mumbai 1993, Bali 2002) can produce significantly more casualties, particularly injuries. The choice of weapon is a factor in how "successful" an attack will be, but so is the choice of targets and location. The effect of adding more people to an attack is likely highly dependent on location (Kenya 2013 vs Noway 2011.) More important than either is conviction of the person or people doing the attacking (LAX 2013, Centennial 2013.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #25 March 3, 2014 SkyDekker***I bet the victims of this attack wish they had guns to defend themselves with. Guns are equalizers. Even a little old lady can defend herself from much bigger,stronger,and better trained combatants,if she has a gun. Then Americans must be mighty stupid, cause even with all those guns, you guys keep shooting eachother. Nobody gets shot in Canada? Sounds like the perfect place. The title of this is: "Grief and few solutions in wake of mass Toronto shooting" http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/grief-and-few-solutions-in-wake-of-mass-toronto-shooting/article4424591/Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
