Another good court ruling

[rushmc 23]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/10/supreme-court-railroad-land-dispute/6252835/

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Court ruling in land dispute could threaten bike trails

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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court's ruling in an obscure Wyoming land dispute Monday could result in the loss of thousands of miles of bicycle trails or cost the government millions of dollars in compensation.

The justices ruled 8-1 that government easements used for railroad beds over public and private land in the West expired once the railroads went out of business, and the land must revert to its owners.

Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for the majority, said the case was decided based on an 1875 act of Congress and a 1942 Supreme Court decision involving Great Northern Railway.

That ruling confirmed that the government merely had received easements without any long-term land rights, he said. The establishment in 1983 of the federal "rails to trails" program didn't change the court's interpretation for easements that expired earlier.

"We're going to stick with that today," Roberts said from the bench.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[lawrocket 3]

It was a pretty simple case. "The Government loses this case in large part because it won when it argued the opposite in Great Northern R. Co. v. United States..."

The SCOTUS took the case to reverse the Tenth.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[FastRon 0]

Originally they wern't 'government easements'. The USA gave the railroads the rihgt of way and sections of land adjacent to do whatever they wished with- like sell to defray building costs, with the caveats that the railroads would transport troops, and that the land would revert to the adjacent landowners when the rails no longer carried trains. Has been that way for many RR right of ways for a very long time. The government can still exercize eminent domain and seize the property but would be required to buy it a market value from the legal landowners.

[rushmc 23]

lawrocket

It was a pretty simple case. "The Government loses this case in large part because it won when it argued the opposite in Great Northern R. Co. v. United States..."

The SCOTUS took the case to reverse the Tenth.

True
But this case also shows the sad state where a judge will rule based on their own beliefs and not law
But this happens all the time anymore, cause we let them get away with it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

And another:

www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/15/arkansas-abortion-ban/6453807/

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,027]

And another:

www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2014/03/14/federal-judge-says-tennessee-must-recognize-some-same-sex-marriages

Seems that judges are having a good week.

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[rushmc 23]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/19/judge-states-can-demand-proof-citizenship-voters/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/19/judge-states-can-demand-proof-citizenship-voters/

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[PiLFy 3]

rushmc

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/19/judge-states-can-demand-proof-citizenship-voters/

[DanG 1]

You guys realize this ruling is about having people prove citizenship at the time of registration, not the time of voting?

IOW, this is not the polling station picture ID law you're always so excited about.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

You guys realize this ruling is about having people prove citizenship at the time of registration, not the time of voting?

IOW, this is not the polling station picture ID law you're always so excited about.

I will take anything at this point

But more over, as the first court suggested, the states can require the fed to change to meet with the states requirements
Good first step

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[GeorgiaDon 362]

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But more over, as the first court suggested, the states can require the fed to change to meet with the states requirements
Good first step

If the state were to limit voting registration to gun owning white male property owners at least 65 years old (which would be a Republican wet dream), should the feds have to comply with that?

Dan, I'm pretty sure they do not realize we're talking about voter registration, not the polling booth on election day. I thought it was already a requirement to have to show ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote, at least that has always been my personal experience.

Don

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[rushmc 23]

GeorgiaDon

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But more over, as the first court suggested, the states can require the fed to change to meet with the states requirements
Good first step

If the state were to limit voting registration to gun owning white male property owners at least 65 years old (which would be a Republican wet dream), should the feds have to comply with that?

Dan, I'm pretty sure they do not realize we're talking about voter registration, not the polling booth on election day. I thought it was already a requirement to have to show ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote, at least that has always been my personal experience.

Don

Ya

no idea

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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DanG

You guys realize this ruling is about having people prove citizenship at the time of registration, not the time of voting?

IOW, this is not the polling station picture ID law you're always so excited about.

You assume too much.

IOW, you don't know what you think you know.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[PiLFy 3]

DanG

You guys realize this ruling is about having people prove citizenship at the time of registration, not the time of voting?

IOW, this is not the polling station picture ID law you're always so excited about.

That's fine w/me. I don't want to force anyone to have to bring their passports & licenses to the voting stations. I just want illegals to be excluded from voting. That can be established beforehand.

[wmw999 2,452]

Illegals are excluded from voting. Only citizens can vote. Instead of adding laws, they should enforce the ones that we have.

Maybe catching the illegal aliens who vote would be the thing to do.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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PiLFy

***You guys realize this ruling is about having people prove citizenship at the time of registration, not the time of voting?

IOW, this is not the polling station picture ID law you're always so excited about.

That's fine w/me. I don't want to force anyone to have to bring their passports & licenses to the voting stations. I just want illegals to be excluded from voting. That can be established beforehand.

Winner.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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wmw999

Illegals are excluded from voting. Only citizens can vote. Instead of adding laws, they should enforce the ones that we have.

Maybe catching the illegal aliens who vote would be the thing to do.

Wendy P.

I whole-heartedly agree. Enforce the laws we have in place. Ya think Obama will do that - or change them by executive order?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rushmc 23]

turtlespeed

***Illegals are excluded from voting. Only citizens can vote. Instead of adding laws, they should enforce the ones that we have.

Maybe catching the illegal aliens who vote would be the thing to do.

Wendy P.

I whole-heartedly agree. Enforce the laws we have in place. Ya think Obama will do that - or change them by executive order?

Or just have the DoJ not enforce them....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

******Illegals are excluded from voting. Only citizens can vote. Instead of adding laws, they should enforce the ones that we have.

Maybe catching the illegal aliens who vote would be the thing to do.

Wendy P.

I whole-heartedly agree. Enforce the laws we have in place. Ya think Obama will do that - or change them by executive order?

Or just have the DoJ not enforce them....

But . . . Wendy says we have to enforce the laws we have, we can't cherry pick them for political purposes, no matter who we hurt in the process, can we?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

***Illegals are excluded from voting. Only citizens can vote. Instead of adding laws, they should enforce the ones that we have.

Maybe catching the illegal aliens who vote would be the thing to do.

Wendy P.

I whole-heartedly agree. Enforce the laws we have in place. Ya think Obama will do that - or change them by executive order?

I don't ever recall seeing a federal agent from any agency at a polling place.

Voting process is controlled by the state and local governments. Obama has nothing to do with it.

Did you fail civics class?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

******Illegals are excluded from voting. Only citizens can vote. Instead of adding laws, they should enforce the ones that we have.

Maybe catching the illegal aliens who vote would be the thing to do.

Wendy P.

I whole-heartedly agree. Enforce the laws we have in place. Ya think Obama will do that - or change them by executive order?

I don't ever recall seeing a federal agent from any agency at a polling place.

Voting process is controlled by the state and local governments. Obama has nothing to do with it.

Did you fail civics class?

Not that recall
But
We have seen New Black Panther members allowed to be in such places

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[PiLFy 3]

"Maybe catching the illegal aliens who vote would be the thing to do."

Maybe throwing them all out because they don't belong here is the thing to do?? Democrat States are giving them welfare, free health care, & reduced/FREE tuition!

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Maybe throwing them all out because they don't belong here is the thing to do??

So you are in favour of a multi-billion dollar program to deal with all illegal aliens?

Obviously the government will also have to fund the significant number of orphans created by this program. So maybe another couple of 100 million per year for that?

Here I was thinking Republicans wanted smaller government.

[PiLFy 3]

It could be done for far less than that. More importantly, I think you're missing the bigger picture, here.