billvon 3,008 #76 March 26, 2014 >I paid into SS with the understanding the administration would refund my money >upon retirement. That is a mandatory contract that is now being fulfilled by the >SSA. It is an entitlement by implied contract. And many people pay taxes to the government with an expectation of receiving benefits (including SNAP, unemployment etc) as part of the implied contract. They are just as right as you are in their expectations. You feel you are entitled to social security because of what you paid in - they feel they are entitled to the aid they receive due to the taxes they paid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #77 March 26, 2014 billvon>I paid into SS with the understanding the administration would refund my money >upon retirement. That is a mandatory contract that is now being fulfilled by the >SSA. It is an entitlement by implied contract. And many people pay taxes to the government with an expectation of receiving benefits (including SNAP, unemployment etc) as part of the implied contract. They are just as right as you are in their expectations. You feel you are entitled to social security because of what you paid in - they feel they are entitled to the aid they receive due to the taxes they paid. AgreeLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,375 #78 March 26, 2014 Hi Ron, QuoteI, as do all working individuals, paid into SS You should do your homework. As a federal employee for 30 yrs I never paid a dime into SS. mjosparky on here was a firefighter for over 30 yrs, he also did not pay into SS for those years. And then there are those folks who work for the railroads, and on, and on, . . . . . Sheeesh, JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seedy 0 #79 March 26, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi Ron, QuoteI, as do all working individuals, paid into SS You should do your homework. As a federal employee for 30 yrs I never paid a dime into SS. mjosparky on here was a firefighter for over 30 yrs, he also did not pay into SS for those years. And then there are those folks who work for the railroads, and on, and on, . . . . . Sheeesh, JerryBaumchen Railroaders pay into Social Security. Railroad retirement has two tiers: Tier I is SS; Tier II is RR. I am a former railroader. I intend to live forever -- so far, so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,375 #80 March 27, 2014 Hi seedy, I appreciate the correction. The only RR'er that I ever knew was a high school friend's dad and I knew that he did not pay into SS. Oh, and an uncle. But that was eons ago. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #81 March 27, 2014 DanGQuoteWere it not for your child's body being in the system, the pool would be even warmer. I'd love to see how you call that logic.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #82 March 27, 2014 turtlespeed *** Quote Were it not for your child's body being in the system, the pool would be even warmer. I'd love to see how you call that logic. Please take a shot at another discipline that it can be called... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #83 March 27, 2014 It takes energy to burn a body, it does not release energy. You could just as validly say that you burned the pool water to heat up the body. It's just not true. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 221 #84 March 27, 2014 DanGIt takes energy to burn a body, it does not release energy. You could just as validly say that you burned the pool water to heat up the body. It's just not true. So you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tonyhays 86 #85 March 27, 2014 edit: forgot attachment“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #86 March 27, 2014 Do you think we should bring up James I's..... uh.. "proclivities" with Lennox and others??? That usually gets those who are such vociferous supporters of his Majesties Booke to go into full on green stuff Linda Blair mode Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #87 March 27, 2014 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #88 March 27, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi Ron, QuoteI, as do all working individuals, paid into SS You should do your homework. As a federal employee for 30 yrs I never paid a dime into SS. mjosparky on here was a firefighter for over 30 yrs, he also did not pay into SS for those years. And then there are those folks who work for the railroads, and on, and on, . . . . . Sheeesh, JerryBaumchen And, your point here is...?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #89 March 27, 2014 QuoteSo you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha. Are under the impression that if you put a match to a dead body it will burn without the presence of other fuel? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #90 March 27, 2014 DanG Quote So you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha. Are under the impression that if you put a match to a dead body it will burn without the presence of other fuel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fog52 58 #91 March 27, 2014 QuoteAlso Like!!Amazon*********so what would YOU do ? Need you ask? I am pro-life. My preference is abortions only in unique circumstances. Then have appropriate memorial services for the deceased child in accordance with the immediate family's wishes. That's cool ... but so long as you understand that other people do not consider that a child is involved and they could be equally happy with the current process... i.e it is following the lady in questions wishes... and that the rest of the family/world has no say. It's her body and thus her say [full stop] To add..... let's worry about the almost countless kids that are born and treated badly around the world before we 'waste' time worrying about the ones that will not be born.... That alone is a massive task and one that is still well beyond our ability to solve it. LIKEMagna res est vocis et silentii temperamentum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Southern_Man 0 #92 March 27, 2014 Andy9o8 *** Quote So you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha. Are under the impression that if you put a match to a dead body it will burn without the presence of other fuel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW6W9iOjTKM"What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 4 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Amazon 7 #82 March 27, 2014 turtlespeed *** Quote Were it not for your child's body being in the system, the pool would be even warmer. I'd love to see how you call that logic. Please take a shot at another discipline that it can be called... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #83 March 27, 2014 It takes energy to burn a body, it does not release energy. You could just as validly say that you burned the pool water to heat up the body. It's just not true. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #84 March 27, 2014 DanGIt takes energy to burn a body, it does not release energy. You could just as validly say that you burned the pool water to heat up the body. It's just not true. So you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #85 March 27, 2014 edit: forgot attachment“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #86 March 27, 2014 Do you think we should bring up James I's..... uh.. "proclivities" with Lennox and others??? That usually gets those who are such vociferous supporters of his Majesties Booke to go into full on green stuff Linda Blair mode Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #87 March 27, 2014 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #88 March 27, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi Ron, QuoteI, as do all working individuals, paid into SS You should do your homework. As a federal employee for 30 yrs I never paid a dime into SS. mjosparky on here was a firefighter for over 30 yrs, he also did not pay into SS for those years. And then there are those folks who work for the railroads, and on, and on, . . . . . Sheeesh, JerryBaumchen And, your point here is...?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #89 March 27, 2014 QuoteSo you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha. Are under the impression that if you put a match to a dead body it will burn without the presence of other fuel? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #90 March 27, 2014 DanG Quote So you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha. Are under the impression that if you put a match to a dead body it will burn without the presence of other fuel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fog52 58 #91 March 27, 2014 QuoteAlso Like!!Amazon*********so what would YOU do ? Need you ask? I am pro-life. My preference is abortions only in unique circumstances. Then have appropriate memorial services for the deceased child in accordance with the immediate family's wishes. That's cool ... but so long as you understand that other people do not consider that a child is involved and they could be equally happy with the current process... i.e it is following the lady in questions wishes... and that the rest of the family/world has no say. It's her body and thus her say [full stop] To add..... let's worry about the almost countless kids that are born and treated badly around the world before we 'waste' time worrying about the ones that will not be born.... That alone is a massive task and one that is still well beyond our ability to solve it. LIKEMagna res est vocis et silentii temperamentum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Southern_Man 0 #92 March 27, 2014 Andy9o8 *** Quote So you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha. Are under the impression that if you put a match to a dead body it will burn without the presence of other fuel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW6W9iOjTKM"What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 4 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Southern_Man 0 #92 March 27, 2014 Andy9o8 *** Quote So you are saying that the pool's heat is being stolen by the child burning. snicker Gotcha. Are under the impression that if you put a match to a dead body it will burn without the presence of other fuel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW6W9iOjTKM"What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
