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I wonder if Sharpton has ever had a bunch of supporters with shootin irons pointed at LEO...nah didn't happen because I do not think they would live.
No, it wasn't LEO.
His supporters, at his agitation, hurt folks that weren't armed.
Crown Heights riot
Twenty years after the riots, Sharpton regretted some aspects of his involvement. He insisted that his marches were peaceful, although his language and tone "sometimes exacerbated tensions
He led a march... I do not see anything there about attacking anyone.. that had already occurred by the time of his march I believe.
Here you will probably love this website...
http://topconservativenews.com/2014/04/wsj-lack-of-fathers-behind-black-income-inequality-not-racism/
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masterrigHe's certainly not hurting, considering his lifestyle. Someone's 'profiting' from that 'non-profit'.
Schuyler, Crouch, Warren, ...
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quade***He's certainly not hurting, considering his lifestyle. Someone's 'profiting' from that 'non-profit'.
Schuyler, Crouch, Warren, ...
There is very good money in fleecing the flock
StreetScoobyMy take on this is a bit beyond the immediate issue being discussed. IMO, this is yet another unbridled attempt by the current administration to exert power. The folks currently in power in Washington seem to think they are best prepared to live all of our lives. I have never seen such blatant abuse in my life. From government statistics, to the EPA, to the "Justice" department's decisions, and now to the BLM, and more. The list has become endless. Everyday seems to be another crisis that deflects from this administration's failures. Even worse, IMO, is that the current Washington folks aren't really the problem. It's reached the point where I see the problem as being those people who continue to vote to keep them in power. It is simply unsustainable.
I see nothing that I didn't see in Bush's second term, or Clinton's second term, or Reagan's second and Bush Sr's only term. This seems to be the problem with the incumbent winning reelection - the white house gets a bit less responsive.
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Al says he has a repayment plan...
Please don't tell me that is your source... You strike me as a thoughtful person. Please, don't tell me that is your source.
I think it would be better to keep all this in the Bundy thread, rather than double track the same conversation, but I'll repeat the same general response.
I can find multiple articles over the past several years (google: al sharpton tax bill) talking about his tax debt and the same notion about the arrangement. They're not the same source, and it's highly improbable that they're covering for him.
On the other side, I have a potentially bigoted Obama attack piece that provides no foundation (it is just a graphic, of course, it can't defend itself). But if none of you can provide evidence to the contrary, I can only take the claim of a payment plan as the truth. This being America and all.
If he really were refusing to pay at all, Fox would be yammering about it 27 times a day until he was either arrested or made payments, just as it was with the SecTreas. Personally I found that a disqualifying event, but he did pay up.
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Well now... this sheds a bit more light on the law breaker...
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25302186/an-abbreviated-look-at-rancher-cliven-bundys-family-history
I-Team: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny
LAS VEGAS -- It has been widely reported that Cliven Bundy’s family claims to have ranched in the Bunkerville area since the 1870s even though a federal judge held a different view of Bundy’s history.
Bundy repeated a similar claim Thursday when he told TheBlaze website: “My family has preemptive, adjudicated livestock water rights filed with the state of Nevada. They were established in 1877 when the first pioneers entered the valley. Among those first pioneers were my grandparents from my mother’s side. My father either bought or inherited his Nevada state livestock water rights and I, in turn, have done the same.”
Contrast that with the 1998 opinion from U.S. District Judge Johnnie Rawlinson in a case where it was determined Bundy wouldn’t be allowed to use federal land for his cattle because of failure to pay grazing fees to the Bureau of Land Management. Rawlinson wrote that it wasn’t until roughly 1954 that “Bundy or his father or both have grazed livestock on public lands owned by the United States and administered by the BLM.”
Clark County Recorder documents show the 160-acre Bunkerville ranch Bundy calls home was purchased by his parents, David and Bodel Bundy, from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt on Jan. 5, 1948. The purchase included the transfer to the Bundys of certain water rights, including water from the nearby Virgin River. Cliven Bundy was born in 1946.
Although no Bundys lived in Bunkerville in 1930 or 1940, according to Census records for those years, Cliven Bundy’s mother Bodel and her parents, John and Christena Jensen, lived in neighboring Mesquite in the early 20th Century.
Census records from 1930 indicate that John was a Mesquite farmer originally from Utah whose parents were from Denmark. Those records state the farm was near Main Street and a bridge over the Virgin River.
Separate records from the website FamilySearch, which is sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, indicate that Christena Jensen was born in Nevada in 1901 and that Bodel Jensen was born in Nevada in 1924. Christena Jensen’s parents originally were from Utah. This is the side of the family where Cliven Bundy claims long-standing livestock water rights.
Federal grazing districts were established with passage by Congress of the Taylor Grazing Act of 1934. The Las Vegas area grazing district was established Nov. 3, 1936. The Bureau of Land Management was formed in 1946, the year Cliven Bundy was born.
County records show the earliest construction on Bundy’s ranch was in 1951. The land is zoned rural open land. Since 1994 the ranch has been jointly owned by the David A. and Bodel Bundy Trust and the Bundy Revocable Trust.
Census records show that Cliven Bundy’s paternal great-grandfather, Illinois native Abraham Bundy, lived in Littlefield Village in Mohave County, Ariz., as early as 1900. Abraham Bundy was credited in 1916 with establishment in Mohave County of Bundyville, otherwise known as Mt. Trumbull, according to a history of the Arizona Strip on the Northern Arizona University website.
Abraham Bundy’s children included Cliven Bundy’s paternal grandfather, Roy Bundy, who was born in Nebraska. Two of Roy Bundy’s children were born in Nevada around World War I but Roy Bundy and his family returned to Mt. Trumbull and lived there for many years.
One of Roy Bundy’s sons was David A. Bundy, Cliven Bundy’s father. David Bundy, who was born in Arizona, lived in Mt. Trumbull until at least 1940, according to Census records.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25302186/an-abbreviated-look-at-rancher-cliven-bundys-family-history
I-Team: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny
LAS VEGAS -- It has been widely reported that Cliven Bundy’s family claims to have ranched in the Bunkerville area since the 1870s even though a federal judge held a different view of Bundy’s history.
Bundy repeated a similar claim Thursday when he told TheBlaze website: “My family has preemptive, adjudicated livestock water rights filed with the state of Nevada. They were established in 1877 when the first pioneers entered the valley. Among those first pioneers were my grandparents from my mother’s side. My father either bought or inherited his Nevada state livestock water rights and I, in turn, have done the same.”
Contrast that with the 1998 opinion from U.S. District Judge Johnnie Rawlinson in a case where it was determined Bundy wouldn’t be allowed to use federal land for his cattle because of failure to pay grazing fees to the Bureau of Land Management. Rawlinson wrote that it wasn’t until roughly 1954 that “Bundy or his father or both have grazed livestock on public lands owned by the United States and administered by the BLM.”
Clark County Recorder documents show the 160-acre Bunkerville ranch Bundy calls home was purchased by his parents, David and Bodel Bundy, from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt on Jan. 5, 1948. The purchase included the transfer to the Bundys of certain water rights, including water from the nearby Virgin River. Cliven Bundy was born in 1946.
Although no Bundys lived in Bunkerville in 1930 or 1940, according to Census records for those years, Cliven Bundy’s mother Bodel and her parents, John and Christena Jensen, lived in neighboring Mesquite in the early 20th Century.
Census records from 1930 indicate that John was a Mesquite farmer originally from Utah whose parents were from Denmark. Those records state the farm was near Main Street and a bridge over the Virgin River.
Separate records from the website FamilySearch, which is sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, indicate that Christena Jensen was born in Nevada in 1901 and that Bodel Jensen was born in Nevada in 1924. Christena Jensen’s parents originally were from Utah. This is the side of the family where Cliven Bundy claims long-standing livestock water rights.
Federal grazing districts were established with passage by Congress of the Taylor Grazing Act of 1934. The Las Vegas area grazing district was established Nov. 3, 1936. The Bureau of Land Management was formed in 1946, the year Cliven Bundy was born.
County records show the earliest construction on Bundy’s ranch was in 1951. The land is zoned rural open land. Since 1994 the ranch has been jointly owned by the David A. and Bodel Bundy Trust and the Bundy Revocable Trust.
Census records show that Cliven Bundy’s paternal great-grandfather, Illinois native Abraham Bundy, lived in Littlefield Village in Mohave County, Ariz., as early as 1900. Abraham Bundy was credited in 1916 with establishment in Mohave County of Bundyville, otherwise known as Mt. Trumbull, according to a history of the Arizona Strip on the Northern Arizona University website.
Abraham Bundy’s children included Cliven Bundy’s paternal grandfather, Roy Bundy, who was born in Nebraska. Two of Roy Bundy’s children were born in Nevada around World War I but Roy Bundy and his family returned to Mt. Trumbull and lived there for many years.
One of Roy Bundy’s sons was David A. Bundy, Cliven Bundy’s father. David Bundy, who was born in Arizona, lived in Mt. Trumbull until at least 1940, according to Census records.
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Didn't I say a couple of weeks ago all that was required was to go down to the Hall of Records at the County Courthouse?
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4622782#4622782
Yep.
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4622782#4622782
Yep.
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quadeDidn't I say a couple of weeks ago all that was required was to go down to the Hall of Records at the County Courthouse?
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4622782#4622782
Yep.
Very prescient Paul
Here is another great Idea... You know this is near Skydive Mesquite on the Virgin River right...
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/come-celebrate-bundy-fest-2014
Cliven Bundy's anti-government act has inspired a counter-event from one of the guys involved in Burning Man (who are known as burners). Welcome to Bundy Fest!
Come celebrate TOTAL FREEDOM at BUNDYFEST, just across the road from the Cliven Bundy Ranch, in Bunkerville, Nevada! 240 bands, 24 hours a day, for a SOLID ROCKIN' MONTH!!!!
*NO PERMITS REQUIRED
*CAMP ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE
*FULL NUDITY NOT A PROBLEM
*GAY-FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE
*PENIS ERECTION CONTEST: Erect the largest penis in the open desert, win valuable prize! (tbd)
quade***He's certainly not hurting, considering his lifestyle. Someone's 'profiting' from that 'non-profit'.
Schuyler, Crouch, Warren, ...
I don't know if this counts as a credible source but, a few years ago I watched a story on '60-Minutes' about televangelists. It was pointed out that followers of t.v. preachers want and expect these 'preachers' to live lavish lifestyles. Little old ladies send their SS checks to them and people even mortgage their homes to send them money. It's my opinion, these 'preachers' are nothing more than con artists in the name of God, preying on the weak.
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My question is, has that former drug dealing, counterfeit preacher made a payment, yet?
I'm still waiting on kelpdiver's help sharing his cursory review of this. I personally haven't been able to find anything, yet. I do find it interesting that the IRS would allow someone who works for a non-profit to make payments on a near $2MM dollar debt, and still have the president show up for dinner...
I dont know but I wonder if he will reply. Seeing how the race card has been tossed in now
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Here is another great Idea... You know this is near Skydive Mesquite on the Virgin River right...
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/come-celebrate-bundy-fest-2014
Cliven Bundy's anti-government act has inspired a counter-event from one of the guys involved in Burning Man (who are known as burners). Welcome to Bundy Fest!
Come celebrate TOTAL FREEDOM at BUNDYFEST, just across the road from the Cliven Bundy Ranch, in Bunkerville, Nevada! 240 bands, 24 hours a day, for a SOLID ROCKIN' MONTH!!!!
*NO PERMITS REQUIRED
*CAMP ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE
*FULL NUDITY NOT A PROBLEM
*GAY-FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE
*PENIS ERECTION CONTEST: Erect the largest penis in the open desert, win valuable prize! (tbd)
Sounds like a party!
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StreetScoobykallend, ... Not only do you do this in this forum, but you have the same reputation in other forums (such as aircraft pilots).
This will be the last time I respond to you.
Which aircraft pilots' forum would that be? It is clear that your post is just fabricated PA garbage to avoid the point made by kelpdiver about your racist meme post.
My pleasure.
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al sharpton tax bill
I looked through several articles that popped up with that google expression. I did not find any saying Al has paid his tax bill. The one article I found (dated 22-Feb-2013), Sharpton: Hardest Working Man In Show Business?, has the following quote at the bottom of the article:
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An auditor’s report notes that Sharpton’s group “has been in the process of negotiating an offer in compromise to settle” its IRS tab. “The Organization feels that the likelihood of a favorable outcome is highly likely,” concludes the auditor.
So, unless you have a more specific source, I'm beginning to conclude that he hasn't paid his tax bill.
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Based on your quote, I would disagree entirely with your last sentence.
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Based on your quote, I would disagree entirely with your last sentence.
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has been in the process of negotiating an offer in compromise to settle
He hasn't paid his tax bill... Am I missing something here?
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normiss 798
"He" is not his organization.
You're welcome.
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al sharpton tax bill
I looked through several articles that popped up with that google expression. I did not find any saying Al has paid his tax bill. The one article I found (dated 22-Feb-2013), Sharpton: Hardest Working Man In Show Business?, has the following quote at the bottom of the article:Quote
An auditor’s report notes that Sharpton’s group “has been in the process of negotiating an offer in compromise to settle” its IRS tab. “The Organization feels that the likelihood of a favorable outcome is highly likely,” concludes the auditor.
So, unless you have a more specific source, I'm beginning to conclude that he hasn't paid his tax bill.
'favorable outcome' = he (his group) talked his way out of it.
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"He" is not his organization.
Ok, I'll take that as an acceptable foray into semantics.
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QuoteSo, unless you have a more specific source, I'm beginning to conclude that he hasn't paid his tax bill.
Wow, it took me all of 2 seconds to google and another 2 to scan individual articles to find the following
"Sharpton has said he is on a repayment plan with state and federal-tax authorities."
"As for Sharpton's personal tax debt, King said Sharpton has started paying it off but contends that faulty record-keeping by the National Action Network led the government to overestimate his tax liability."
And your misleading post about NAN which is trying to negotiate a payment plan, not Sharpton himself…
""Since February 2010, the Organization has been in the process of negotiating an offer in compromise to settle all payroll taxes and related interest and penalties owed by the Organization to the Internal Revenue Service," according to the New York fling, which is an audited financial statement dated November 13, 2012. "The Organization feels that the likelihood of a favorable outcome is highly likely.""
Source: Google: Al Sharpton IRS debt
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kallend
Which aircraft pilots' forum would that be? It is clear that your post is just fabricated PA garbage to avoid the point made by kelpdiver about your racist meme post.
My pleasure.
He could be mistaken for RCgroups, but your actually quite Civil over there mostly. Totally different demeanor and it works well. I actually enjoy reading your posts there and usually skip over them here. This one was short enough though to take a gander.
That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.
normiss 798
If that's how you want to see it.
StreetScoobyQuote
"He" is not his organization.
Ok, I'll take that as an acceptable foray into semantics.
There's a rather obvious difference between a person and his tax liabilities and a non profit organization and its liabilities. I see a latter post covered both.
Which again brings up back - your source (and you and others that continue to defend it) need to substantiate the claim, because it's not looking good. Looking like a flat out lie, in fact.
He's certainly not hurting, considering his lifestyle. Someone's 'profiting' from that 'non-profit'.
All he does is 'stir the pot' and makes money from it. People seem to have forgotten the way he 'used' Tawana Brawley and people honestly trust him?
Chuck
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