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Why we spend money on things like the LHC

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zoobrothertom

***But what happens if maltium collides with antimaltium?



It becomes on of those near-beerions. :)
But there's a beerion conservation number in any process.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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******But what happens if maltium collides with antimaltium?



It becomes on of those near-beerions. :)
But there's a beerion conservation number in any process.

A beerion usually decays into a peeon (conserving color charge) and an unstable virtual particle that behaves irrationally.

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A beerion usually decays into a peeon (conserving color charge) and an unstable virtual particle that behaves irrationally.

Sometimes, though, the beerion combines with a dogion to make it look like a hottion. The interaction is unstable, decaying by the next morning into an oshition and a myheadiskillingmeion.

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...Sometimes, though, the beerion combines with a dogion to make it look like a hottion.



That interaction demonstrates a symmetry that is beautiful in its simplicity, requiring the dogion to also "see" the same illusion from its "point of view".

*** The interaction is unstable, decaying by the next morning into an oshition and a myheadiskillingmeion.



Symmetry is now broken ...and so are promises that were made during the course of the interaction.

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***...Sometimes, though, the beerion combines with a dogion to make it look like a hottion.



That interaction demonstrates a symmetry that is beautiful in its simplicity, requiring the dogion to also "see" the same illusion from its "point of view".

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The interaction is unstable, decaying by the next morning into an oshition and a myheadiskillingmeion.



At this point reality re-establishes itself. Scientists call this a 'Hangover.' ;)

Symmetry is now broken ...and so are promises that were made during the course of the interaction.
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[Reply]the beerion combines with a dogion to make it look like a hottion.



This has been adequately demonstrated as a quantum effect. Since the measurer is part of the system, the measurer inherently affects the measurement. This comes with a failure of the pilot wave (absence of wingman). Alcohol results in decoherence, which as we all know is simply where the observer has eliminated many physical possibilities into a single possibility. Thus, the wave form collapses and the the only choice, in the mind of the observer, it hottion.


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At the risk of derailing the amusing thread drift, I'd like to say how cool it is that unexpected results are coming out of the LHC. I suppose the day will come when our models are so accurate they become indistinguishable from reality, but it's good to know we still have some exploring to do.

Here's clickable link to the article BV posted:
http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2014/04/physicists-announce-inexplicable-particle?et_cid=3876459&et_rid=45537935&type=headline

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quade



Geebus. We really freedom-bombed those guys pretty hard. But I'm sure they're all 100% grateful.




Talking of which, I'm looking forward to NASA receiving a boost in funding for their upcoming freedom missions...

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Geebus. We really freedom-bombed those guys pretty hard. But I'm sure they're all 100% grateful.




Talking of which, I'm looking forward to NASA receiving a boost in funding for their upcoming freedom missions...

:D:D
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So, every Tom, Jack, and Harry is expected to form an opinion on Advanced Nuclear Physics and offer their valued insights?

See how well that works for 401(k)'s where everybody is now expected to be their own financial advisor. Versus a simple, defined pension plan.




billvon

The LHC (large hadron collider) was astoundingly expensive, and one of the criticisms of the project was that it was built just to find the Higgs - and is finding one new particle really worth nine billion dollars?

And if that were the only thing it was designed to do, that would be a pretty powerful argument against spending all that money. But often the most valuable thing a new scientific instrument does is to find things you are _not_ expecting.

And they just found something very strange.

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Physicists Announce Inexplicable Particle
Thu, 04/10/2014

Since the discovery of the Higgs boson in 2012, physicists at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the gigantic particle accelerator outside Geneva, have suffered a bit of a drought when it comes to finding new particles. In a welcome relief, the the most genuinely exciting observations to come out of the 27 km super-collider so far – an exotic particle that cannot be explained by current theories.
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http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2014/04/physicists-announce-inexplicable-particle?et_cid=3876459&et_rid=45537935&type=headline

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>So, every Tom, Jack, and Harry is expected to form an opinion on Advanced
>Nuclear Physics and offer their valued insights?

Expected to? No. Do they do it? Quite often. Look at all the people here who have opinions on everything from climate change science to dynamic grid stability and post those "valued insights" as often as they can.

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Talking of which, I'm looking forward to NASA receiving a boost in funding for their upcoming freedom missions...



If I'm reading your intent here correctly, you and other folks that say "it's about the oil" when it comes to the American military are,... what's the word..., ridiculous. If it was really about the oil, we'd own the oil in about 2 weeks. Considering we haven't done that, then your premise seems to be misplaced, IMO.

I'm still waiting for someone who thinks like I'm seeing you think to write a book,... something along the lines of "Living in Trees For Dummies". I promise I'll not only buy it, but I will actually read it.
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The average "Joe" cannot be entrusted w/ LHC, climate science, or even taking care of his own healthcare needs, let alone, retirement needs. And I agree!!!!

Because the average "Joe" does not have a PhD in Nuclear Physics, an MD, or an MBA. But he has all of those working against him.

So, where does that leave the average "Joe"?

I don't know the answer. But it ain't pretty.




billvon

>So, every Tom, Jack, and Harry is expected to form an opinion on Advanced
>Nuclear Physics and offer their valued insights?

Expected to? No. Do they do it? Quite often. Look at all the people here who have opinions on everything from climate change science to dynamic grid stability and post those "valued insights" as often as they can.

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Talking of which, I'm looking forward to NASA receiving a boost in funding for their upcoming freedom missions...



If I'm reading your intent here correctly, you and other folks that say "it's about the oil" when it comes to the American military are,... what's the word..., ridiculous. If it was really about the oil, we'd own the oil in about 2 weeks. Considering we haven't done that, then your premise seems to be misplaced, IMO.


That wasn't my intent, but following that train of thought, you'd keep any oil you simply took for a further 2 weeks before the entire world turned on you...
However there's a difference between taking ensuring friendly local ownership. ;)


Regardless, I actually believe that if oil is the driver needed to refund NASA, then that's a good thing. I'm one of those people who fervently wishes we were out exploring the universe more than we do. If the commercial opportunities of oil is what is needed to fund that exploration that I'm up for that for the time being.

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