Cliven Bundy Syndrome

[Coreece 190]

Ya, well these things need to be clarified before places bets...

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

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Coreece

Ya, well these things need to be clarified before places bets...

It's a pretty commonly understood term. I doubt there was confusion in anyone's mind except yours.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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quade

***Ya, well these things need to be clarified before places bets...

It's a pretty commonly understood term. I doubt there was confusion in anyone's mind except yours.

Ya, until you try collect your money...

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[PiLFy 3]

Amazon

***I've said previously that the government was correct in enforcing its rights and blew it by the show of force. I don't find the force to have been at all consistent with the level of threat.

The interesting thing: not a single shot was fired. Not even by the gun-nut loonies who came from far and wide to kill feds.

I'll ask you this: is "I'll do anything" a sufficient threat for you to point a gun at somebody? If not, then why is it sufficient for the government?

Would you council any of your clients to ever point a gun at any LEO???

You'd have to ask your Daddy's permission before pointing a gun at a bunch of thugs pointing theirs at you ???

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I've said previously that the government was correct in enforcing its rights...

I posted the attached jpg file to another thread, also. Just thought it sums up the situation pretty well.

We are all engines of karma

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PiLFy

******I've said previously that the government was correct in enforcing its rights and blew it by the show of force. I don't find the force to have been at all consistent with the level of threat.

The interesting thing: not a single shot was fired. Not even by the gun-nut loonies who came from far and wide to kill feds.

I'll ask you this: is "I'll do anything" a sufficient threat for you to point a gun at somebody? If not, then why is it sufficient for the government?

Would you council any of your clients to ever point a gun at any LEO???

You'd have to ask your Daddy's permission before pointing a gun at a bunch of thugs pointing theirs at you ???

No I would expect you to ask mommy.... now on the other hand.... Me I would prefer to get a LAWYERS advice before doing anything so fucking stupid... That shit usually gets people very very dead in this country.... just my observation since it appears you had not been keeping track of people vs. thin blue line confrontations..

[kelpdiver 2]

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I've said previously that the government was correct in enforcing its rights...

I posted the attached jpg file to another thread, also. Just thought it sums up the situation pretty well.

A cursory looks finds that Sharpton is in a repayment plan with the IRS, which really deflates your attempt to use it as a counter example. Bundy refuses to acknowledge he owes any money at all.

[rushmc 23]

kelpdiver

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I've said previously that the government was correct in enforcing its rights...

I posted the attached jpg file to another thread, also. Just thought it sums up the situation pretty well.

A cursory looks finds that Sharpton is in a repayment plan with the IRS, which really deflates your attempt to use it as a counter example. Bundy refuses to acknowledge he owes any money at all.

bundy refuses to pay the fed
He acknowledges he owes fees
the bulk of the monies claimed by the fed are fines

Again
I have yet to defend Bundy
I have only sought to provide fact

And the fact remains that those who are the most adamant that he is breaking the law have yet to condemn the Obama admin and his lead lawyer for the laws they break and ignore daily for political gain
Until then those bitching the loudest do not have a right to bitch

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I see a lot of hand waving, but why not just agree that Al Sharpton is a bad counter example and leave it at that? Or find evidence that he is getting special treatment?

Right now, I see the choice of the devil black man as not coincidental, but quite intentional given the intended audience for the graphic.

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A cursory looks finds that Sharpton is in a repayment plan with the IRS, which really deflates your attempt to use it as a counter example.

It wasn't my attempt.

Sources? Seriously, I would appreciate seeing those.

Thanks.

We are all engines of karma

[rushmc 23]

kelpdiver

I see a lot of hand waving, but why not just agree that Al Sharpton is a bad counter example and leave it at that? Or find evidence that he is getting special treatment?

Right now, I see the choice of the devil black man as not coincidental, but quite intentional given the intended audience for the graphic.

Race card? ?? Really?

Good night

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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kelpdiver

I see a lot of hand waving, but why not just agree that Al Sharpton is a bad counter example and leave it at that? Or find evidence that he is getting special treatment?

Right now, I see the choice of the devil black man as not coincidental, but quite intentional given the intended audience for the graphic.

Question... do your sources show a 'receipt of payment for even one, from Sharpton?


Chuck

[kelpdiver 2]

rushmc

***I see a lot of hand waving, but why not just agree that Al Sharpton is a bad counter example and leave it at that? Or find evidence that he is getting special treatment?

Right now, I see the choice of the devil black man as not coincidental, but quite intentional given the intended audience for the graphic.

Race card? ?? Really?

Good night

Well, if you had even attempted to defend the choice with actual facts, rather than ignore the rebuttal...instead you send a message of "don't bother me with reality - I'll agree with false comparisons if they support my stance."

masterrig - it's improbable that I'm going to have his tax receipts, but it's really not my burden to prove his innocence. Unless substantiated, I'm going to happily presume that the graphic creator was placing loose with the facts, and not for the first time, I'm sure. People will repost all sorts of wrong shit without thinking.

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"No I would expect you to ask mommy.... now on the other hand.... Me I would prefer to get a LAWYERS advice before doing anything so fucking stupid..."

I don't have or need a mommy...

You'd ask armed attackers to wait while you call your lawyer for advice ??? Brilliant. Maybe you should just move back to Britain, & fawn over the royal TROG family? I'm eternally grateful that the founding fathers didn't share your sheeple values.

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PiLFy

"No I would expect you to ask mommy.... now on the other hand.... Me I would prefer to get a LAWYERS advice before doing anything so fucking stupid..."

I don't have or need a mommy...

You'd ask armed attackers to wait while you call your lawyer for advice ??? Brilliant. Maybe you should just move back to Britain, & fawn over the royal TROG family? I'm eternally grateful that the founding fathers didn't share your sheeple values.

And a swing and a miss

How many DAR Patriots might you have in your family tree???

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kelpdiver

******I see a lot of hand waving, but why not just agree that Al Sharpton is a bad counter example and leave it at that? Or find evidence that he is getting special treatment?

Right now, I see the choice of the devil black man as not coincidental, but quite intentional given the intended audience for the graphic.

Race card? ?? Really?

Good night

Well, if you had even attempted to defend the choice with actual facts, rather than ignore the rebuttal...instead you send a message of "don't bother me with reality - I'll agree with false comparisons if they support my stance."

masterrig - it's improbable that I'm going to have his tax receipts, but it's really not my burden to prove his innocence. Unless substantiated, I'm going to happily presume that the graphic creator was placing loose with the facts, and not for the first time, I'm sure. People will repost all sorts of wrong shit without thinking.

And people throw the race card without thinking
disgusting

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

*********I see a lot of hand waving, but why not just agree that Al Sharpton is a bad counter example and leave it at that? Or find evidence that he is getting special treatment?

Right now, I see the choice of the devil black man as not coincidental, but quite intentional given the intended audience for the graphic.

Race card? ?? Really?

Good night

Well, if you had even attempted to defend the choice with actual facts, rather than ignore the rebuttal...instead you send a message of "don't bother me with reality - I'll agree with false comparisons if they support my stance."

masterrig - it's improbable that I'm going to have his tax receipts, but it's really not my burden to prove his innocence. Unless substantiated, I'm going to happily presume that the graphic creator was placing loose with the facts, and not for the first time, I'm sure. People will repost all sorts of wrong shit without thinking.

And people throw the race card without thinking
disgusting

I would imagine that racists would hate 2 way racism.. dammit.. its supposed to be just one way... sad state of affairs I tell you.

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kelpdiver

******I see a lot of hand waving, but why not just agree that Al Sharpton is a bad counter example and leave it at that? Or find evidence that he is getting special treatment?

Right now, I see the choice of the devil black man as not coincidental, but quite intentional given the intended audience for the graphic.

Race card? ?? Really?

Good night

Well, if you had even attempted to defend the choice with actual facts, rather than ignore the rebuttal...instead you send a message of "don't bother me with reality - I'll agree with false comparisons if they support my stance."

masterrig - it's improbable that I'm going to have his tax receipts, but it's really not my burden to prove his innocence. Unless substantiated, I'm going to happily presume that the graphic creator was placing loose with the facts, and not for the first time, I'm sure. People will repost all sorts of wrong shit without thinking.

I wasn't inferring that you would have a receipt but rather one of your sources might. I'd be willing to bet a six-pack of your favorite beverage that Sharpton slicks his way out of paying by tossing out the 'I'm buds with the prez' card.


Chuck

[PiLFy 3]

[Quote]And a swing and a missSlySly

How many DAR Patriots might you have in your family tree???

No, I'd say it was definitely on the mark.

A Hell of a lot more than are in your genes, obviously.

[kelpdiver 2]

masterrig

I wasn't inferring that you would have a receipt but rather one of your sources might. I'd be willing to bet a six-pack of your favorite beverage that Sharpton slicks his way out of paying by tossing out the 'I'm buds with the prez' card.

It's certainly plausible that he may have a sweet heart deal, like a credit card's 2% min payment plan that would never be fullfilled. But he at least has something in place, rather than outright defiance. Because if he didn't, he would have been in trouble in 2008 when Bush was still President (I saw stories go back that far), and he would likely be in trouble in 2017.

But still, the burden of proof is on the person that presents him as tax evader.

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PiLFy

[Quote]And a swing and a missSlySly

How many DAR Patriots might you have in your family tree???

No, I'd say it was definitely on the mark.

A Hell of a lot more than are in your genes, obviously.


Whooooosh

And again you would be way off the mark...

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kelpdiver

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I wasn't inferring that you would have a receipt but rather one of your sources might. I'd be willing to bet a six-pack of your favorite beverage that Sharpton slicks his way out of paying by tossing out the 'I'm buds with the prez' card.

It's certainly plausible that he may have a sweet heart deal, like a credit card's 2% min payment plan that would never be fullfilled. But he at least has something in place, rather than outright defiance. Because if he didn't, he would have been in trouble in 2008 when Bush was still President (I saw stories go back that far), and he would likely be in trouble in 2017.

But still, the burden of proof is on the person that presents him as tax evader.

Considering his track record, I wouldn't trust him. The guy comes across as a 'con man', pure and simple. We'll just have to wait this one out, I guess.


Chuck

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I would imagine that racists would hate 2 way racism.. dammit.. its supposed to be just one way... sad state of affairs I tell you.

A simple question for you - are you here to discuss, debate, and hopefully learn something? Or, are you here to spew this kind of crap? Simple question, just curious...

We are all engines of karma

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Whooooosh

And again you would be way off the mark...
SlySlySly

I assure you that I don't care one bit about you or your BS, any more.

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StreetScooby

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I would imagine that racists would hate 2 way racism.. dammit.. its supposed to be just one way... sad state of affairs I tell you.

A simple question for you - are you here to discuss, debate, and hopefully learn something? Or, are you here to spew this kind of crap? Simple question, just curious...

Oh that is an interesting response.. it is not crap it is the reality that a large percentage of people in this country face daily... well except for Duck Dudes with all those Happy Negroes dancing around.... I see Nothing..... ok Sgt Shulz..