Ok your 15 minutes of Fame are Up Cliven

[Amazon 7]

Nope didn't see that one comin either. I doubt if it will run off most of the militia folks though.. birds of a feather.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/24/conservatives-begin-backing-away-after-cliven-bundys-remarks-disparaging-the-negro/

Conservatives begin backing away after Cliven Bundy’s remarks disparaging ‘the Negro’

[kelpdiver 2]

"During the speech, Bundy said he remembered driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, which he called a “government house” with “always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch” with nothing to do."

Was he describing blacks or his fellow guardsmen?

[Arvoitus 1]

So he is basically some sunburned fat white dude bitching about black people leeching off goverment assitance, whilst simulataneously stealing from said goverment, but his excuse is that he does not recognize that government?

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

[ryoder 1,590]

Well, at least he didn't encourage them to sing "Camptown Races".

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[winsor 236]

Amazon

Nope didn't see that one comin either. I doubt if it will run off most of the militia folks though.. birds of a feather.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/24/conservatives-begin-backing-away-after-cliven-bundys-remarks-disparaging-the-negro/

Conservatives begin backing away after Cliven Bundy’s remarks disparaging ‘the Negro’

Big deal, it's been done.

[Andy9o8 2]

It might be called "Joe the Plumber Syndrome."

'Memba this?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/joe-plumber-publishes-racist-article-blog-article-1.1484131

[lawrocket 3]

We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[quade 4]

lawrocket

We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote.

We can however understand that the acceptability of words can change over time. We can also understand that at no time are you ever going to be honest about this.

Bundy's use of the word "negro" is anachronistic and I can forgive an old man for using it. What is not forgivable is his belief that the "negro" would be better off as slaves.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[jclalor 12]

What a shock that he turned out to be racist, I never never never would have thought that he would hold those views.

But hey, their ain't no racism left in this country.

[Andy9o8 2]

lawrocket

We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote.

I have a dream sequence.

[jclalor 12]

This is priceless, blacks were happier and had a much better family life as slaves.

You can't make this shit up.


http://youtu.be/FbnRnhrNFEY

[Amazon 7]

jclalor

This is priceless, blacks were happier and had a much better family life as slaves.

You can't make this shit up.


http://youtu.be/FbnRnhrNFEY

Maybe he can get a guest spot on Duck Fuckers... they can have a segment on "Happy Negros of the Old Days"

[lawrocket 3]

quade

***We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote.

We can however understand that the acceptability of words can change over time. We can also understand that at no time are you ever going to be honest about this.

Bundy's use of the word "negro" is anachronistic and I can forgive an old man for using it. What is not forgivable is his belief that the "negro" would be better off as slaves.

I take it, then, the the UNCF is a racist organization and should not be supported?

I am honest about it. I find "negro" to be an antiquated term. Really - nobody uses it, anymore. But is it "racist?" If so, explain to me how the term is "racist," why it is racist, how it became racist, and why it wasn't racist when MLK used the term 15 times in the most compelling speech of the 20th century a mere 50 years ago.

Yes, words change meaning. Some words don't. "Nigger" is just as racist now as it was 50 years ago. Just like gook, slope, kraut, cracker, spick, WOP, mick...

But then we move into the realm of where words change. Sure, "awful" used to mean "full of awe." And "husband" used to mean "house owner." Semantics do change.

I just want to know where to find out what I can and cannot say, anymore, without being insensitive or racist. Is there a stadard? Or is is one of the "You'll know it when someone gets pissed off" situation?

And why is it okay to have a UNCF? Do you rebuke that organization? If so, do it. If not, then what are the standards?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[quade 4]

As I said, "We can also understand that at no time are you ever going to be honest about this."

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[StreetScooby 5]

Quote

I have a dream sequence.

In public?

We are all engines of karma

[lawrocket 3]

V

quade

As I said, "We can also understand that at no time are you ever going to be honest about this."

Honesty requires more than one perspective. I told you that I agree that words change in their meaning and change in their effect. So the word "Negro," as you stated, is offensive.

Therefore, is the United Negro College Fund an offensive name? If so, why? If not then why not? If you this the UNCF is not offensive but other uses of the term are, just let me know how to tell the difference.

Maybe an honest answer is that you cannot reconcile the two uses. And that's fine.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Is the United Negro College Fund an offensive name?

Not like I'm the gold standard or anything, but I've long thought it odd that the UNCF, as well as the NAACP, chose not to update their names. Same with the US govt's Bureau of Indian Affairs. I'm sure they've contemplated it, especially the first two, and have decided to keep the names for the sake of historical continuity, to avoid public confusion, etc, etc. That said, I'm a pedant, so I'm given to ruminating about such things.

I'm old enough to remember when, in the late 60's, the terms "colored" and "Negro" were considered arcane by anyone younger than middle-aged, and gave way to "black". As I recall, that shift was pretty universally in place for most anyone under age 50 by the early 70s. Bundy was born in 1946, so in, say, 1971 he was only 25. And even though changes in social convention are slower to find purchase in the rural boonies where he lived, you'd certainly expect virtually anyone to know that "Negro" was decades obsolete by 2014. Point being: it reflects how utterly out of touch he (and his ilk!) are with the conventions of modern society. So to hold him out as some kind of heroic figure, or even blessed with some kind of homespun social astuteness, is really quite laughable, and a little sad.

[lawrocket 3]

I agree with the opinion on Bundy.

I also agree with the opinion on word usage.

I'm just looking for a standard. It's been put out there that the use of the term "negro" is racist. I would think that the UNCF would recognize this and change it.

Perhaps an established trademark is a terrible thing to waste.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Boomerdog 0]

Yup...Bundy up and screwed the pooch. Can't and won't excuse the man's words which sheds some light on his views.

So how's about I throw a few grenades on the table:

Seeking Sen. Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Hillary over Obama, former President Bill Clinton saying of Obama: "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee."

Senator Harry Reid once praised fellow senator Barack Obama because he was, in Reid’s words, a “light-skinned” African American “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

And the hits keep comin' and comin' from Senator Harry Reid.
Worried that he would not get enough Hispanic voters to the polls, he condescendingly lectured the Latino community: “I don’t know how anyone of Hispanic heritage could be a Republican, okay. Do I need to say more?”

And lest we forget...the late Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), Majority Leader of the United States Senate a few years ago but years before that an active member rising to the rank of Grand Kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan.

Well sports fans, looks like we got a little...just a little racism goin' on BOTH sides of the fence...not just one.

[Amazon 7]

Boomerdog

Yup...Bundy up and screwed the pooch. Can't and won't excuse the man's words which sheds some light on his views.

So how's about I throw a few grenades on the table:

Seeking Sen. Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Hillary over Obama, former President Bill Clinton saying of Obama: "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee."

Senator Harry Reid once praised fellow senator Barack Obama because he was, in Reid’s words, a “light-skinned” African American “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

And the hits keep comin' and comin' from Senator Harry Reid.
Worried that he would not get enough Hispanic voters to the polls, he condescendingly lectured the Latino community: “I don’t know how anyone of Hispanic heritage could be a Republican, okay. Do I need to say more?”

And lest we forget...the late Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), Majority Leader of the United States Senate a few years ago but years before that an active member rising to the rank of Grand Kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan.

Well sports fans, looks like we got a little...just a little racism goin' on BOTH sides of the fence...not just one.

I bet if you tried you could find a hell of a lot more Knights in White Satin... in the current congress.

[Boomerdog 0]

and I bet you think you know who they are.

[Southern_Man 0]

jclalor

This is priceless, blacks were happier and had a much better family life as slaves.

You can't make this shit up.

I had textbooks that taught me this in school. It was not that long ago.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[tkhayes 348]

Fox News had Cliven on 7 or 8 times at least, touting him as a 'patriot'. I wonder if they will have him back again or even try to explain their support of him....?

Of course the right wing will have short memories of this one I am sure and try to put it behind them.

I cautioned everyone in other threads to be careful what you wish for. The 'militias' of this country are not generally in favor of what you are in favor of. careful what you wish for.

I think the govt handled this one rather well. backed off, and waited for them to hang themselves. And they did.

[Amazon 7]

tkhayes

Fox News had Cliven on 7 or 8 times at least, touting him as a 'patriot'. I wonder if they will have him back again or even try to explain their support of him....?

Of course the right wing will have short memories of this one I am sure and try to put it behind them.

I cautioned everyone in other threads to be careful what you wish for. The 'militias' of this country are not generally in favor of what you are in favor of. careful what you wish for.

I think the govt handled this one rather well. backed off, and waited for them to hang themselves. And they did.

Maybe the Blonde Crew will have him on ... with White Jesus .

[Andy9o8 2]

Southern_Man

***This is priceless, blacks were happier and had a much better family life as slaves.

You can't make this shit up.

I had textbooks that taught me this in school. It was not that long ago.

Are those the same ones that taught you about the War of Southern Treasonous Insurrection?