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Andy9o8QuoteIs the United Negro College Fund an offensive name?
Not like I'm the gold standard or anything, but I've long thought it odd that the UNCF, as well as the NAACP, chose not to update their names. Same with the US govt's Bureau of Indian Affairs. I'm sure they've contemplated it, especially the first two, and have decided to keep the names for the sake of historical continuity, to avoid public confusion, etc, etc. That said, I'm a pedant, so I'm given to ruminating about such things.
I'm old enough to remember when, in the late 60's, the terms "colored" and "Negro" were considered arcane by anyone younger than middle-aged, and gave way to "black". As I recall, that shift was pretty universally in place for most anyone under age 50 by the early 70s. Bundy was born in 1946, so in, say, 1971 he was only 25. And even though changes in social convention are slower to find purchase in the rural boonies where he lived, you'd certainly expect virtually anyone to know that "Negro" was decades obsolete by 2014. Point being: it reflects how utterly out of touch he (and his ilk!) are with the conventions of modern society. So to hold him out as some kind of heroic figure, or even blessed with some kind of homespun social astuteness, is really quite laughable, and a little sad.
I do not necessarily disagree but, here is a comment from Derrick Grayson, candidate for U.S. Senate from GA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cd3TG9uoMg
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
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QuoteIs the United Negro College Fund an offensive name?
Not like I'm the gold standard or anything, but I've long thought it odd that the UNCF, as well as the NAACP, chose not to update their names. Same with the US govt's Bureau of Indian Affairs. I'm sure they've contemplated it, especially the first two, and have decided to keep the names for the sake of historical continuity, to avoid public confusion, etc, etc. That said, I'm a pedant, so I'm given to ruminating about such things.
I'm old enough to remember when, in the late 60's, the terms "colored" and "Negro" were considered arcane by anyone younger than middle-aged, and gave way to "black". As I recall, that shift was pretty universally in place for most anyone under age 50 by the early 70s. Bundy was born in 1946, so in, say, 1971 he was only 25. And even though changes in social convention are slower to find purchase in the rural boonies where he lived, you'd certainly expect virtually anyone to know that "Negro" was decades obsolete by 2014. Point being: it reflects how utterly out of touch he (and his ilk!) are with the conventions of modern society. So to hold him out as some kind of heroic figure, or even blessed with some kind of homespun social astuteness, is really quite laughable, and a little sad.
I do not necessarily disagree but, here is a comment from Derrick Grayson, candidate for U.S. Senate from GA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cd3TG9uoMg
Mr Grayson might find less than welcoming arms from the old bigot when he arrives in Nevada in May.
I think you will find that guys like Cliven are all too common in their beliefs and not just in the south. The Mormons had an interesting "REVELATION" in 1978 about blacks... but the real reason was business... which the Mormon church excels at.
What is in the historical record and fairly common knowledge is that prior to 1978, Mormons regarded African Americans as cursed by god. They abruptly reversed their beliefs according to a heavenly revelation when President Jimmy Carter threatened to revoke the LDS church’s tax-exempt status; the church never repudiated or apologized for actively discriminating against African Americans.
One Republican who supported Bundy wholeheartedly, Republican Senator Dean Heller of Nevada, certainly knew the Mormon rancher was a racist in spite of saying he “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.” Heller, like Bundy, is a Mormon who grew up learning that African Americans were cursed by god and was one of Bundy’s earliest supporters labelling him and armed militias confronting government agents “patriots.” Heller was such an avid Bundy supporter he called for Senate investigations into the Interior Department “to find out who is accountable for this. This being the Interior Department for executing a federal court order; not the racist Bundy.
Conservative Fox News pundit, Sean Hannity, claimed he is the real victim of Cliven Bundy’s racist comments that he asserted yesterday were “Beyond repugnant. They are beyond despicable to me. They’re beyond ignorant to me.” Now, according to Hannity, “People that for right reasons saw this case as government overreach, now are like branded because of the ignorant, racist, repugnant, despicable comments of Cliven Bundy.” Hannity protests too much. It is a sign he knew Bundy was a racist like the man Hannity fawned over and championed during an interview last week with former sheriff, Oath Keeper militia leader, John Birch Society acolyte, Posse Comitatus devotee, and Mormon Richard Mack. Last week this column summarized what is relatively common knowledge about armed militia hero Mack and it is impossible that Hannity was ignorant of Mack’s ideological bent mirroring the John Birch Society and “explicitly racist and anti-Semitic militia group Posse Comitatus.”
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Found this today... and Oh so true...
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"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.
Sounds like this has been a legal thing going on for many many years, with court after court upholding the BLM claims, and they are just doing their job. Eventually an enforcement action is going to take place.
I think they did wait patiently, and further waiting would have continued the situation in which they were trying to stop, which was either pay, or move the cattle or both.
No one could predict that militias would be showing up back in 2011, 2012, 2013 when court orders were being delivered warning of enforcement actions to come.
But I agree with the basic premise - it is done and he has hung himself, and good luck with any more support for his position or even sympathy from his neighbors.... his circle of friends just got a little 'whiter'. Hope that works out for him.
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