Obama raises money off Benghazi

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DanG

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any way you look at it, it is much worse now

Not really. But since that's what the Republican idea machine has been pumping out, you're forced to believe it.

Not really

Actually it is from research and polling done.

But the leftwing media machine does not report on it so those like you do not see it

Answer me this
If the world view of Obama was high dont you think this same lap dog media would report it?

Have you seen any reports?
Of any kind?

How about his
Remember when GB poll numbers were in the same range as Obamas are now, did you see reports on that?

I did
Hell, one CNN (Mr Blitzer) reporter on his hour show mentioned it dozens of times
Funny, not a word out of him today

So, I really dont know what this Republican idea machine is you are talking about
I can only assume that there must be a Democratic idea machine that you are a part of and you are projecting now

Oh well

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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kallend

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No, we had respect until then
Obama has made us the laughing stock

Selective memory much?

You seriously can't remember how low US prestige was under GWB?

any way you look at it, it is much worse now

Still upset that we haven't started an illegal war recently?



Wow, now there is a change in direction

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The media reports on Obama's low numbers all the time. You don't want to hear it because it doesn't fit into your view of the media, but it's there.

- Dan G

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You might want to get a thicker skin.

$5 to a stale donut says that she will be the next Pres.

JerryBaumchen

huuummmm pretty sure Bill and Hillary were SURE she would be the prez about 7 years ago.....

Just a thought

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[Andy9o8 2]

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I hope Hillary doesn't get the nomination for the exact same reason I hope Jeb Bush doesn't get the nomination. Too much power held by too few people. I do not like the idea of the US becoming a de facto dual monarchy and simply switching families back and forth every four to eight years.

I agree, for the reason you state. I tend to be hyper-sensitive to unfairness, and it's always offended my sense of what's right when certain families hog-up the available offices and/or judgeships. I know it happens all the time, and everywhere, but I view it as selfish gluttony, and it bothers me.

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RonD1120

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I am satisfied with the fact that following 9/11 we went into the Mideast and kicked ass.

Unbelievable.

It's no wonder Americans have become the laughingstock of the world. And it happened way before January 2009.

Do you think it might have begun around 1945? Or, maybe it was with the institution of the Marshall Plan.

No, it happened around 2003 when people believed bullshit such as the link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, and to paraphrase, when Americans started spouting, parroting and believing "It is useless to argue about the invasion of Iraq. SH needs to be removed." Around that time we lost our credibility. I agree that Obama hasn't done much to restore it.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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quade

***We must do what we can for the good of the country.

Some people simply do not recognize what is and isn't "good for the country."

Be certain you understand what you mean by that phrase.

A country, "of the people, by the people, for the people," "and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal" is not just for the benefit of a select few.

That said, I hope Hillary doesn't get the nomination for the exact same reason I hope Jeb Bush doesn't get the nomination. Too much power held by too few people. I do not like the idea of the US becoming a de facto dual monarchy and simply switching families back and forth every four to eight years.

A different name in the White House hasn't changed that one bit -- Obama is the same type of puppet as the Bushes and Clintons.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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Hi Paul,

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not just for the benefit of a select few

I do not disagree with your comments.

My comment was because I do not see anyone out there right now who can stop her from the nomination.

And if the Republican party has any consistency, she will be elected ( heck, any Demo could ).

But as we say: Stay tuned, film at 11.

JerryBaumchen

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JerryBaumchen

My comment was because I do not see anyone out there right now who can stop her from the nomination.

I think that's only because we're still very far out and for the majority of media it seems as if Hillary is somehow due the nod and the entire thing hasn't been very well explored yet. That said, there are several very interesting people who could could be extremely competitive. It would make me happy to see Elizabeth Warren give it a shot.

We'll know more after the mid-terms.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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JerryBaumchen

My comment was because I do not see anyone out there right now who can stop her from the nomination.

That was the thought in 2008 as well, and we see how that turned out. HClinton has accumulated a lot of baggage over the years and will likely never get the vote of a near majority of voters. And unlike 2008, she can't run against an unpopular 2 term presidents - she was part of that (not terribly popular two term regime).

If she can get the bid, she probably needs another bat shit crazy GOP nominee - someone like Cruz. Or Bachmann - if the party was so lost and confused.

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rushmc

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any way you look at it, it is much worse now

Not really. But since that's what the Republican idea machine has been pumping out, you're forced to believe it.

Not really

Actually it is from research and polling done.

yeah? Which international polls have you seen that show less global respect for Obama than GWB?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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RonD1120

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I am satisfied with the fact that following 9/11 we went into the Mideast and kicked ass.

Unbelievable.

It is useless to argue about the invasion of Iraq. SH needed to be removed and we did it.

The point now is to investigate the BHO administration and their political motivation for the Benghazi murders. I especially would like to see HC fully discredited in the process.

Meh, four people died...who gives a shit...rather put effort into a couple hundred kidnapped girls, or a myriad of other atrocities.

You want nothing but using a couple of dead Americans for political brownie points. You don't give a shit about them, you just care if it can be used against a politician you don't like.

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SkyDekker

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I am satisfied with the fact that following 9/11 we went into the Mideast and kicked ass.

Unbelievable.

It is useless to argue about the invasion of Iraq. SH needed to be removed and we did it.

The point now is to investigate the BHO administration and their political motivation for the Benghazi murders. I especially would like to see HC fully discredited in the process.

Meh, four people died...who gives a shit...rather put effort into a couple hundred kidnapped girls, or a myriad of other atrocities.

You want nothing but using a couple of dead Americans for political brownie points. You don't give a shit about them, you just care if it can be used against a politician you don't like.

Why would you make a statement like that?

The SOCOM folks may already be on the scene in Nigeria.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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SkyDekker

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I am satisfied with the fact that following 9/11 we went into the Mideast and kicked ass.

Unbelievable.

It is useless to argue about the invasion of Iraq. SH needed to be removed and we did it.

The point now is to investigate the BHO administration and their political motivation for the Benghazi murders. I especially would like to see HC fully discredited in the process.

Meh, four people died...who gives a shit...rather put effort into a couple hundred kidnapped girls, or a myriad of other atrocities.

You want nothing but using a couple of dead Americans for political brownie points. You don't give a shit about them, you just care if it can be used against a politician you don't like.

Coolio
So you get to decide who's life is important and who's is not.

Sooooo cold dude

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,497]

And what did you think about Ron's 125:1 comment?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[JerryBaumchen 1,364]

Hi Paul,

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It would make me happy to see Elizabeth Warren give it a shot.

There is a lot about her that I very much like. She is definitely a very bright spot on the political horizon.

However, she ( IMO ) simply does not have the recognition to get the nomination. I caught her on Charlie Rose last week and thought that she had a lot of good ideas. She is a very articulate person.

Since 1960 ( again IMO ) it has been almost all about tv charisma.

But, since we are still 2 yrs away, who knows.

As we like to say: Stay tuned, film at 11.



JerryBaumchen

PS) And since we are discussing 2016, who you are picking to get the nomination on the Repub side?

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rushmc

Actually it is from research and polling done.

But the leftwing media machine does not report on it so those like you do not see it

feel free to provide citations. But your entire post laid comfortably under the blanket of generalities to avoid effective countering with actual evidence.

I don't believe this is by accident.

My suspicion is that the rest of the world, on average, sees Obama as middle of the road, nothing remotely great. But their opinion of the former guy was that of great disdain. Whereas all of the prior living Presidents make visits all over the world, it's rare to see GW leave Texas. It's a good thing he inherited well, because he's not enjoying the gravy train of retirement appearances like the others, or that Obama certainly will come 2017.

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SkyDekker

You don't give a shit about them, you just care if it can be used against a politician you don't like.

Do you think your poster boy Obama would do anything different?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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kelpdiver

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Actually it is from research and polling done.

But the leftwing media machine does not report on it so those like you do not see it

feel free to provide citations. But your entire post laid comfortably under the blanket of generalities to avoid effective countering with actual evidence.

I don't believe this is by accident.

My suspicion is that the rest of the world, on average, sees Obama as middle of the road, nothing remotely great. But their opinion of the former guy was that of great disdain. Whereas all of the prior living Presidents make visits all over the world, it's rare to see GW leave Texas. It's a good thing he inherited well, because he's not enjoying the gravy train of retirement appearances like the others, or that Obama certainly will come 2017.

There are a few places where he would be arrested on sight and taken to The Hague... perhaps one of those countries will send a snatch squad like W sent to so many places. W did set the precedent for it after all... and look at what Comrade PutIn is pulling... and why not... W and Darth Cheney did it.

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Amazon

W and Darth Cheney did it.

Very adult.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

***W and Darth Cheney did it.

Very adult.

Political Humor

But you may kiss his feet if you like

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Amazon

******W and Darth Cheney did it.

Very adult.

Political Humor

But you may kiss his feet if you like

If he's Darth Cheney - he doesn't have feet.

That was actually an amusing photo edit.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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SkyDekker

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I am satisfied with the fact that following 9/11 we went into the Mideast and kicked ass.

Unbelievable.

It is useless to argue about the invasion of Iraq. SH needed to be removed and we did it.

The point now is to investigate the BHO administration and their political motivation for the Benghazi murders. I especially would like to see HC fully discredited in the process.

Meh, four people died...who gives a shit...rather put effort into a couple hundred kidnapped girls, or a myriad of other atrocities.

You want nothing but using a couple of dead Americans for political brownie points. You don't give a shit about them, you just care if it can be used against a politician you don't like.


Their families care. Way to annoit yourself as captain douchebag. If you were killed representing your country do you think your family wouldnt give a shit?

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kelpdiver

My suspicion is that the rest of the world, on average, sees Obama as middle of the road, nothing remotely great. But their opinion of the former guy was that of great disdain.

Exactly right

Never try to eat more than you can lift

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Stumpy

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My suspicion is that the rest of the world, on average, sees Obama as middle of the road, nothing remotely great. But their opinion of the former guy was that of great disdain.

Exactly right

Why should I, as a voting American, care what you all think? I am going to vote for candidates that I believe have leadership qualities. GWB had it and BHO does not.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.