turtlespeed 220 #351 June 19, 2014 propblast ******Some notes from the Post and other news sources yesterday. These are more relevant than your partisan bickering. Full, who was honorably discharged and served with Bergdahl in the same fire team, the military’s smallest type of organized unit, railed against Bergdahl’s attitude during his deployment in 2009 and rejected media reports that he was a sensitive young man trying to define himself during a time of war. ----- Mike Waltz, a former Army special forces commander in Afghanistan, testified that the search for Bergdahl allowed the Taliban to lure soldiers into traps. “My men were lured into ambushes, including an Afghan home rigged with explosives, a car bomb that was primed to explode, and other types of deadly traps,” Waltz said. “All of my men, me included, were absolutely furious and resentful, frankly, that a fellow American soldier had put us into this position.” ----- Partisan or not - the guy cost resources and lives. There is NO FUCKING WAY that anyone in their right mind can possibly agree that it was a good trade. Well . . . there are some that do . . . but their issues are mostly mental health related.I think you should reread this thread as you are attacking the wrong person. I am in agreement. I just dont care about the fact that one party did this or the other did that. BB walked off his base and jeopardized alot of folks. His release has done the same not just for folks currently on the ground but for the Afghan people. I'm not attacking you at all. I'm just aggressively agreeing with you.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #352 June 24, 2014 http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/06/drone-pilots-overwhelmingly-support-us-release-five-high-value-targets/#!289Gn Drone Pilots Overwhelmingly Support US Release Of Five High-Value Targets BAGRAM AIRFIELD — Following the release of five high-ranking Taliban operatives in exchange for American prisoner of war Bowe Bergdahl two weeks ago, Air Force drone pilots have since been collectively champing at the bit, and according to several sources, are only “two Monsters and a Doritos binge” shy of working themselves into a “click-and-kill” frenzy. With the drawdown in Afghanistan and surgical airstrikes fewer and further between, numerous drone pilots told reporters they enthusiastically approve of the Taliban detainee release. Many have lamented the lull in action and expressed a desire to return to the “good ol’ days downrange.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #353 July 12, 2014 Picture of smiling Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl posing with Taliban leader surfaces on Twitter http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/picture-smiling-army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-posing-taliban-leader-surfaces-twitter-article-1.1861545 The undated picture, which features the soldier standing next to Badruddin Haqqani — a senior member of the Haqqani network killed in 2012 — was tweeted by someone associated with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, according to a report.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #354 July 12, 2014 propblast Picture of smiling Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl posing with Taliban leader surfaces on Twitter http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/picture-smiling-army-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-posing-taliban-leader-surfaces-twitter-article-1.1861545 The undated picture, which features the soldier standing next to Badruddin Haqqani — a senior member of the Haqqani network killed in 2012 — was tweeted by someone associated with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, according to a report. Did you ever take any survival training.. resistance type.. You can get criminals to do all sorts of things on camera. As a captor you have complete and utter control of their lives. Getting pictures of a captive in a compromising pose or laughing.. is so fucking easy.. even a Tea Bagger could probably figure it out let alone an enemy leader looking to create just the type of FUCK over the captive as you see in this piccie. Rub a few brain cells together... the enemy does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #355 July 12, 2014 Again Amazon you make some unfounded claims about folks. Enjoy thinking you are the smartest person in the room. News flash all I did was attach a news article. I have even continued to post them from varying sources. Not including your favorite, Fox News. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #356 July 12, 2014 propblast Again Amazon you make some unfounded claims about folks. Enjoy thinking you are the smartest person in the room. News flash all I did was attach a news article. I have even continued to post them from varying sources. Not including your favorite, Fox News. Ignorance is bliss sometimes. Well if you wish to be... that is fine with me.. but wouldn't you ever like to dig into WHO the fuck it is that is manipulating you as part of their agenda??? Propaganda is what it is. Some people recognize it.. others swallow it It is right there in your post... if you read it. Quote The image of Bergdahl, who was held captive by the Taliban for nearly five years, and the merry militant was posted to a Twitter account belonging to a person associated with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, Fox News reported. Click the link Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #357 July 12, 2014 Apparently you have contextual issues as the link states after that... “Recruited for Haqqani,” reads a message superimposed over the picture, according to a translation on CBS News. We could also go to reuters or a half dozen other news sources if you want to look at the photo and twitter posts. I thought they would lead to good discussion. I guess I was wrong, as you are never wrong. You seem to really be hard up to paint me as something that you haven't been able to do. How about you concern yourself with the story and not with me. Your arguments continue to be weak on this issue. I'm a little surprised at you because until this and your incessant attacks on me I actually thought you were fairly intelligent. Now throughout this site I could care less to see what you post and actually question it's validity. Congrats for completely turning me off of all your viewpoints, including in the history and trivia were I used to enjoy them.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #358 July 12, 2014 propblast Apparently you have contextual issues as the link states after that... “Recruited for Haqqani,” reads a message superimposed over the picture, according to a translation on CBS News. We could also go to reuters or a half dozen other news sources if you want to look at the photo and twitter posts. I thought they would lead to good discussion. I guess I was wrong, as you are never wrong. You seem to really be hard up to paint me as something that you haven't been able to do. How about you concern yourself with the story and not with me. Your arguments continue to be weak on this issue. I'm a little surprised at you because until this and your incessant attacks on me I actually thought you were fairly intelligent. Now throughout this site I could care less to see what you post and actually question it's validity. Congrats for completely turning me off of all your viewpoints, including in the history and trivia were I used to enjoy them. So .... trying to get you to rub a few brain cells together pisses you off. Perhaps if you actually delve into WHO did the translations.. a little itty light bulb might go off in your head. Do you have a clue what propaganda is and how and why it is employed by one group?? Do you know how one group who is holding a captive might use a picture like that to demoralize said captive??? Nah.. I bet you did not think about that. As far as the rest of the post... your choice.... Frankly my dear.. I don't give a ratz ass ( to paraphrase ole Rhett Butler) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #359 July 12, 2014 Hi prop, QuotePicture of smiling Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl posing with Taliban leader Nothing unique in that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #360 July 12, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi prop, QuotePicture of smiling Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl posing with Taliban leader Nothing unique in that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome JerryBaumchen Gee look at this commie sympathizer in NV.. all smiley faced.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/13476480@N07/3771813202/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #361 July 12, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi prop, QuotePicture of smiling Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl posing with Taliban leader Nothing unique in that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome JerryBaumchen Jerry I understand this. I really do and even though Amazon makes great assumptions that she is the only one that understands captivity, she is wrong. Everyone is tracking, that the Army already conducted an investigation, which said this soldier walked off his base of his own free will right? The investigation that was done in 2010. I am not running on emotion like some here but rather facts. All I am doing is posting news articles of interest to this thread. Cheers.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #362 July 13, 2014 propblast***Hi prop, QuotePicture of smiling Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl posing with Taliban leader Nothing unique in that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome JerryBaumchen Jerry I understand this. I really do and even though Amazon makes great assumptions that she is the only one that understands captivity, she is wrong. Everyone is tracking, that the Army already conducted an investigation, which said this soldier walked off his base of his own free will right? The investigation that was done in 2010. I am not running on emotion like some here but rather facts. All I am doing is posting news articles of interest to this thread. Cheers. There you go ASSUMING... Do you have a clue about my background??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #363 July 13, 2014 Amazon******Hi prop, QuotePicture of smiling Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl posing with Taliban leader Nothing unique in that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome JerryBaumchen Jerry I understand this. I really do and even though Amazon makes great assumptions that she is the only one that understands captivity, she is wrong. Everyone is tracking, that the Army already conducted an investigation, which said this soldier walked off his base of his own free will right? The investigation that was done in 2010. I am not running on emotion like some here but rather facts. All I am doing is posting news articles of interest to this thread. Cheers. There you go ASSUMING... Do you have a clue about my background??? Nope. I no very little about you. I am making no assumptions about your background but am rather stating the fact that you continue to assume no one else understands the things you have posted about. See your last 5 posts. Here is the deal. I am not attacking you, and value your opinion even though I disagree with it. I am extremely put off by your attack dog attitude and the way everything you post is aggressive and lacks knowledge of the folks you post about. You are the queen of assumptions in this particular thread. You have in the past seemed like a nice level headed person, and that quote you have, " treat others as you wish to be treated." I wish you would follow it. I think I have been civil. Perhaps it's just my read, but you haven't been. By the way no thoughts on the previous investigation? Cheers.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #364 July 13, 2014 It's been a while since I've checked into this thread, but I've seen the current arguments and had to weigh in. If this has already been said, then ignore: Bergdahl should have never been allowed to join the Army in the first place. He had already washed out of Coast Guard boot camp in 2006 for mental issues: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/12/us/bowe-bergdahl-discharged-from-coast-guard-before-joining-army.html?_r=0 Once you understand that he was mentally unstable, the rest kind of falls in place. The argument of whether or not we should have traded for him then all falls down on how much risk are you willing to take to rescue a nut case that put himself in that situation. YMMV. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #365 January 27, 2015 Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has been charged with desertion go figure "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #366 January 27, 2015 and if convicted, he should be shot._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #367 January 27, 2015 Quoteand if convicted, he should be shot. I disagree. Dissertion in the face of the enemy is one thing. Dessertion when there aren't any bullets flying is another. I think he needs a lengthy jail sentence. Time should not be taken off for his time as a POW. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #368 January 27, 2015 sfzombie13and if convicted, he should be shot. Bollocks he should. It isn't 1917 in the trenches anymore.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #369 January 27, 2015 Can't wait to see the lack of people admitting they were wrong about him being a traitor. We shall see. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #370 January 27, 2015 He deserted his unit in a war zone. Throw the book at him. Send him back to Afghanistan to serve his sentence in prison."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #371 January 27, 2015 AnvilbrotherCan't wait to see the lack of people admitting they were wrong about him being a traitor. We shall see. You seem to forget the step where he has to be convicted first. Getting charged doesn't make him a traitor just yet. More importantly, most people stated there just wasn't enough information out there, and certainly not enough clear information to determine if he was a traitor or deserter just yet. Hopefully the trial will rectify that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #372 January 27, 2015 How familiar are you with military trials? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #373 January 27, 2015 Quotewe shall see I guess you missed that part where I said we will see. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #374 January 27, 2015 normiss How familiar are you with military trials? I am not. In military trails getting charged is the same as getting convicted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #375 January 27, 2015 AnvilbrotherQuotewe shall see I guess you missed that part where I said we will see. In this sentence: QuoteCan't wait to see the lack of people admitting they were wrong about him being a traitor. We shall see. I thought the "we shall see" refers to the lack of people admitting they were wrong. Did you mean we shall see if he is really a traitor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
