Perhaps there's still a chance for republicans

[DanG 1]

While "Oprah" and "Obama" may look like the same word at a distance, she is not, nor never has been, a member of Obama's administration. She was not speaking on the administration's behalf, she was expressing her own opinion.

Try again.

(BTW, your google search just delivered right wing websites making the same claim as regulator without actually backing it up, just like you.)

- Dan G

[DanG 1]

And now that I actually looked up what Oprah said, your example is even less convincing. She said:

"There is a level of disrespect for the office that occurs. And that occurs, in some cases—and maybe even many cases—because he’s African-American"

See if you can tell the logical difference between these two statements:

1. Some people oppose the President because he's black.
2. All people who oppose the President are racist.

Let me know if you need me to draw a Venn diagram for you.

- Dan G

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DanG

And now that I actually looked up what Oprah said, your example is even less convincing. She said:

"There is a level of disrespect for the office that occurs. And that occurs, in some cases—and maybe even many cases—because he’s African-American"

See if you can tell the logical difference between these two statements:

1. Some people oppose the President because he's black.
2. All people who oppose the President are racist.

Let me know if you need me to draw a Venn diagram for you.

So answer the question I asked earlier

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[DanG 1]

Already answered. He speaks for himself in news conferences and public appearances almost every day. Watch the news. You can't avoid the guy.

- Dan G

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DanG

Already answered. He speaks for himself in news conferences and public appearances almost every day. Watch the news. You can't avoid the guy.

REALLY . . . you think he writes his own speeches? You think he goes ANYWHERE now without a teleprompter?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

***Already answered. He speaks for himself in news conferences and public appearances almost every day. Watch the news. You can't avoid the guy.

REALLY . . . you think he writes his own speeches? You think he goes ANYWHERE now without a teleprompter?

EVERY modern President has used speechwriters.

As for him going places without TelePrompTers, yes. He does.

That said, EVERY modern President has used TelePrompTers for speeches. That is without a doubt one of the stupider attacks the right makes since even the great communicator, Ronald Reagan, used them religiously for speeches.

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quade

******Already answered. He speaks for himself in news conferences and public appearances almost every day. Watch the news. You can't avoid the guy.

REALLY . . . you think he writes his own speeches? You think he goes ANYWHERE now without a teleprompter?

EVERY modern President has used speechwriters.

As for him going places without TelePrompTers, yes. He does.

That said, EVERY modern President has used TelePrompTers for speeches. That is without a doubt one of the stupider attacks the right makes since even the great communicator, Ronald Reagan, used them religiously for speeches.

So who speaks for him? His speech writers?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[quade 4]

You're way more than 90 degrees today and that's not a cute thing at all.

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[turtlespeed 221]

quade

You're way more than 90 degrees today and that's not a cute thing at all.

Can you answer the question.

Or are both of you unable to?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

Can you answer the question.

These questions?

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So who speaks for him? His speech writers?

Well, up until a few days ago a guy by the name of Jim Carney could literally speak for the President. This is also currently true of Ambassador Kerry.

The President also speaks for himself AND for the American government.

Because he is a busy man, he has a staff of speech writers (again, just like every modern President) who help him craft the words. He's is at least as involved in the writing of those speeches as most other modern Presidents have been and probably far more so than a couple others. In any case, the President does have final say in the words he delivers.

Now . . . does that answer your question or do you wish to continue trolling?

I'm only calling you out on it because it's getting WAY old and tired. It seems like it's the only thing you do here.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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quade

***Can you answer the question.

These questions?

Quote

So who speaks for him? His speech writers?

Well, up until a few days ago a guy by the name of Jim Carney could literally speak for the President. This is also currently true of Ambassador Kerry.

The President also speaks for himself AND for the American government.

Because he is a busy man, he has a staff of speech writers (again, just like every modern President) who help him craft the words. He's is at least as involved in the writing of those speeches as most other modern Presidents have been and probably far more so than a couple others. In any case, the President does have final say in the words he delivers.

Now . . . does that answer your question or do you wish to continue trolling?

I'm only calling you out on it because it's getting WAY old and tired. It seems like it's the only thing you do here.

Just trying to prove a point.

Neither you, nor your confederate Dan can say what those people do or do not say either behind closed doors. But you can be fairly certain that they parrot some or even most of what people like Oprah do say.

Out of the hundreds of people that "speak for the President, you can honestly claim that not ONE of them ever uttered anything regarding "If you disagree with Obama you are a racist"?

Or maybe you believe that Paula Dean only said the N word once and it was 18 years ago.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[DanG 1]

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Just trying to prove a point.

Neither you, nor your confederate Dan can say what those people do or do not say either behind closed doors. But you can be fairly certain that they parrot some or even most of what people like Oprah do say.

Out of the hundreds of people that "speak for the President, you can honestly claim that not ONE of them ever uttered anything regarding "If you disagree with Obama you are a racist"?

Or maybe you believe that Paula Dean only said the N word once and it was 18 years ago.

So your argument boils down to this: the "old fall back" of "if you disagree with Obama you're a racist," may have been said at least once by someone connected with the Administration behind closed doors?

Doesn't sound like much of an "old fall back" to me.

- Dan G

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DanG

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Just trying to prove a point.

Neither you, nor your confederate Dan can say what those people do or do not say either behind closed doors. But you can be fairly certain that they parrot some or even most of what people like Oprah do say.

Out of the hundreds of people that "speak for the President, you can honestly claim that not ONE of them ever uttered anything regarding "If you disagree with Obama you are a racist"?

Or maybe you believe that Paula Dean only said the N word once and it was 18 years ago.

So your argument boils down to this: the "old fall back" of "if you disagree with Obama you're a racist," may have been said at least once by someone connected with the Administration behind closed doors?

Doesn't sound like much of an "old fall back" to me.

Well, you have me there, it's more of a belief system.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[regulator 0]

Negative. he doesn't speak for himself. He reads off a teleprompter with speeches his people make up for him. And when the liberal media asks him a tough question that isn't on the script of questions to ask he runs away with his tail between his legs. That is most definately NOT a leader.

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/see-obama-lecture-female-reporter-storm-off-after-she-asks-a-question-about-syria

[DanG 1]

Gosh, you're right. His use of speechwriters and a teleprompter is unprecedented in modern Presidential history.

- Dan G

[quade 4]

DanG

Gosh, you're right. His use of speechwriters and a teleprompter is unprecedented in modern Presidential history.

It is sometimes unbelievable what some other people believe.

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[Stumpy 284]

quade

***Gosh, you're right. His use of speechwriters and a teleprompter is unprecedented in modern Presidential history.

It is sometimes unbelievable what some other people believe.

You do have to feel a little bit sorry for someone with that level of delusion.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

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Stumpy

******Gosh, you're right. His use of speechwriters and a teleprompter is unprecedented in modern Presidential history.

It is sometimes unbelievable what some other people believe.

You do have to feel a little bit sorry for someone with that level of delusion.

We do. [Pats Stumpys Head]

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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quade

***Gosh, you're right. His use of speechwriters and a teleprompter is unprecedented in modern Presidential history.

It is sometimes unbelievable what some other people believe.

The truthiness is very inbred in some people.

[billvon 3,006]

>Negative. he doesn't speak for himself. He reads off a teleprompter with speeches >his people make up for him.

As all modern presidents do.

> That is most definately NOT a leader.

Let's see. Killed Bin Laden. Ended the Iraq war. Implemented Obamacare. Ousted Gaddafi without a single US life lost. Ended "don't ask, don't tell." Improved vehicle fuel economy and actually _reduced_ demand. No leadership.

Now, the REAL leadership is in the GOP. They've tried to repeal Obamcare - what? - 53 times now and failed every time? And they are great at blaming Obama. There's some fine leadership there.

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....Ended the Iraq war....

With the latest headlines I think that would be "Paused the Iraq war"

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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billvon

>Negative. he doesn't speak for himself. He reads off a teleprompter with speeches >his people make up for him.

As all modern presidents do.

> That is most definately NOT a leader.

Let's see. Killed Bin Laden. Ended the Iraq war. Implemented Obamacare. Ousted Gaddafi without a single US life lost. Ended "don't ask, don't tell." Improved vehicle fuel economy and actually _reduced_ demand. No leadership.

Now, the REAL leadership is in the GOP. They've tried to repeal Obamcare - what? - 53 times now and failed every time? And they are great at blaming Obama. There's some fine leadership there.

Another lie from you. He didn't kill UBL. He picked up a fucking phone and said 'go' to seal team six. They did all the hard work and now obama and his liberal cronies are taking money away from the military for welfare for illegals. Way to treat the people that put you on the map.

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Amazon

******Gosh, you're right. His use of speechwriters and a teleprompter is unprecedented in modern Presidential history.

It is sometimes unbelievable what some other people believe.

The truthiness is very inbred in some people.

Well, I'd always take being inbred with the truth like you say than in your case actually having the dna to prove it.

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regulator

He didn't kill UBL. He picked up a fucking phone and said 'go' to seal team six.

By that standard, no President has ever "really" done anything.

If it is not possible to praise a President for leading a victory of those under his command, then how can you possibly blame him for any of the countries failures many of which he could not possibly be in control of if he wanted to be?

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[kallend 2,027]

regulator

***>Negative. he doesn't speak for himself. He reads off a teleprompter with speeches >his people make up for him.

As all modern presidents do.

> That is most definately NOT a leader.

Let's see. Killed Bin Laden. Ended the Iraq war. Implemented Obamacare. Ousted Gaddafi without a single US life lost. Ended "don't ask, don't tell." Improved vehicle fuel economy and actually _reduced_ demand. No leadership.

Now, the REAL leadership is in the GOP. They've tried to repeal Obamcare - what? - 53 times now and failed every time? And they are great at blaming Obama. There's some fine leadership there.

Another lie from you. He didn't kill UBL. He picked up a fucking phone and said 'go' to seal team six.

Unlike GWB, who personally led his troops into battle in Iraq, and GHWB, who personally parachuted into Panama to detain Noreiga, and who personally led the allied troops into Kuwait in Desert Storm. And Reagan, who personally parachuted into Grenada at the head of the 75th Rangers.

Why do you like making yourself look foolish?

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