RonD1120 62 #1 July 12, 2014 What, a liberal reporter baiting and insulting a Christian during an interview in his own home? Who would've guessed that? http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/duck-dynasty-s-jase-robertson-gq-interview-it-felt-more-attack?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Marketing&utm_term=Facebook&utm_content=Facebook&utm_campaign=N-Duck-Dynasty-GQLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #2 July 12, 2014 RonD1120What, a liberal reporter baiting and insulting a Christian during an interview in his own home? Who would've guessed that? http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/duck-dynasty-s-jase-robertson-gq-interview-it-felt-more-attack?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Marketing&utm_term=Facebook&utm_content=Facebook&utm_campaign=N-Duck-Dynasty-GQ "Sparked a debate on free speech" Since when is what you say while under contract for a TV show protected speech? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #3 July 12, 2014 When the people who have no understanding of the US Constitution follow the directives of the Anti-American "news" organizations, for example, Faux Spews, and makes stupid claims about "free speech" on an issue between a person and their employer. For the uneducated folks out there, do some research on the issue of "free speech" and you will find that it does NOT apply in the employee/employer relationship. A good example of this is the woman in one of the parasite states in the south. She was fired by her private employer for having a pro Democrat bumper sticker on her car. It was an Obama presidential sticker, IIRC. The employer demanded that she remove the bumper sticker. She refused and was fired. The firing was upheld. This was totally wrong, if you believe in the ideals of the Constitution. It has helped establish an ugly precedent that is a stain of filth on this country. At the time, the conservatives here supported the employer, not the citizen. Religious beliefs, and the writings in the Bible, were used to justify the continued practice of slavery. These same beliefs have morphed into the insane Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decision. History will judge harshly the Roberts court and it's anti citizen, pro corporation decisions. Taking freedom AWAY from individuals, and giving greater rights to non- person legal entities (corporations) is wrong. If you want to live you life based on a book of fables, have at it. Don't try to force that way of life on others. Mind your own business. It should be obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Coreece 190 #5 July 13, 2014 funjumper101Religious beliefs, and the writings in the Bible, were used to justify the continued practice of slavery. These same beliefs have morphed into the insane Hobby Lobby SCOTUS decision. History will judge harshly the Roberts court and it's anti citizen, pro corporation decisions. Taking freedom AWAY from individuals, and giving greater rights to non- person legal entities (corporations) is wrong. Lol...first they compare the NBA to slavery, and now this... funjumper101If you want to live you life based on a book of fables, have at it. Don't try to force that way of life on others. Mind your own business. It should be obvious. I guess the same thing could be said of those who want to force their employer to support the cost of their sex life...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #6 July 13, 2014 Quote I guess the same thing could be said of those who want to force their employer to support the cost of their sex life... The consistent, deliberate lying by Conservatives gets really old. There are many medical uses for birth control pills that have nothing to do with contraception. Two of my sisters have been on BC for years to control issues with their hormone cycles that produce serious behavior issues when they have their period. Depression, anger, uncontrollable rage, etc, is well managed by being on the pill. The treatment and the results are of great benefit to them, their husbands, and their children. Medical insurance pays for Cialis and Viagra. Why would it noy pay for BC? The hypocrisy of Conservatives never fails to amaze me. In theory, freedom from unwanted government intrusion into one's personal life, liberty, and personal responsibility are supposed to be bedrock values for Conservatives. Over and over again, Conservatives make 100% clear that these values apply only to white males of Northern European ancestry. Other races, and all women, are not subject to these values. Due to the practical application of Conservative philosophy, in some states, women are subject to severe government intrusion into their personal, private medical decisions. They are subject to mandatory, unnecessary medical procedures in the hopes of altering decisions that they have made. Nothing close to that level of intrusion is inflicted on men. Conservatives would never allow that. They would flip out completely. Nothing positive for US society has ever come about via the practical application of Conservative values. Women would not be able to vote, would not be able to own real estate in their own names, or have their own credit history. Slavery would never have been ended. The Jim Crow laws would still be in effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #7 July 13, 2014 Trying to use science is confusing to them. It's ok for them to force it down our throats, but we aren't allowed to point that out to them. Religion is so full of hatred it's just silly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #8 July 13, 2014 funjumper101Quote I guess the same thing could be said of those who want to force their employer to support the cost of their sex life... The consistent, deliberate lying by Conservatives gets really old. There are many medical uses for birth control pills that have nothing to do with contraception. Two of my sisters have been on BC for years to control issues with their hormone cycles that produce serious behavior issues when they have their period. Depression, anger, uncontrollable rage, etc, is well managed by being on the pill. The treatment and the results are of great benefit to them, their husbands, and their children. Medical insurance pays for Cialis and Viagra. Why would it noy pay for BC? The hypocrisy of Conservatives never fails to amaze me. In theory, freedom from unwanted government intrusion into one's personal life, liberty, and personal responsibility are supposed to be bedrock values for Conservatives. Over and over again, Conservatives make 100% clear that these values apply only to white males of Northern European ancestry. Other races, and all women, are not subject to these values. Due to the practical application of Conservative philosophy, in some states, women are subject to severe government intrusion into their personal, private medical decisions. They are subject to mandatory, unnecessary medical procedures in the hopes of altering decisions that they have made. Nothing close to that level of intrusion is inflicted on men. Conservatives would never allow that. They would flip out completely. Nothing positive for US society has ever come about via the practical application of Conservative values. Women would not be able to vote, would not be able to own real estate in their own names, or have their own credit history. Slavery would never have been ended. The Jim Crow laws would still be in effect. Are you seriously this delusional in your unwavering support for the democratic party? Politicians are all liars. They all promise one thing and virtually never do it unless their next election needs requires pandering to their demographic to remain in office. Yet I have never once eeen any words by you condemning anything obama or any democrat has ever done. I'm more of a libertarian, than republican but I do not agree with the patriot act. Obama is a horrible leader and you have your head stuck up his ass you can tell me what he had for lunch. So answer me this...If you like your plan you can keep it. Tell me how that wasn't an outright lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #9 July 14, 2014 funjumper101Quote I guess the same thing could be said of those who want to force their employer to support the cost of their sex life... The consistent, deliberate lying by Conservatives gets really old. There are many medical uses for birth control pills that have nothing to do with contraception. Two of my sisters have been on BC for years to control issues with their hormone cycles that produce serious behavior issues when they have their period. Depression, anger, uncontrollable rage, etc, is well managed by being on the pill. The treatment and the results are of great benefit to them, their husbands, and their children. Medical insurance pays for Cialis and Viagra. Why would it noy pay for BC? The hypocrisy of Conservatives never fails to amaze me. In theory, freedom from unwanted government intrusion into one's personal life, liberty, and personal responsibility are supposed to be bedrock values for Conservatives. Over and over again, Conservatives make 100% clear that these values apply only to white males of Northern European ancestry. Other races, and all women, are not subject to these values. Due to the practical application of Conservative philosophy, in some states, women are subject to severe government intrusion into their personal, private medical decisions. They are subject to mandatory, unnecessary medical procedures in the hopes of altering decisions that they have made. Nothing close to that level of intrusion is inflicted on men. Conservatives would never allow that. They would flip out completely. Nothing positive for US society has ever come about via the practical application of Conservative values. Women would not be able to vote, would not be able to own real estate in their own names, or have their own credit history. Slavery would never have been ended. The Jim Crow laws would still be in effect. Slavery and Jim Crow were the Democrats. In cause you are interested in making a factual point."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #10 July 14, 2014 QuoteSlavery and Jim Crow were the party that was known as the Democrats at the time, but is not related to the current Democratic party. In cause you are interested in making a factual point. Ya know, in case you're interested in making a factual point. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #11 July 14, 2014 It never fails to amaze me how utterly ignorant Conservatives are. Nowhere in what I wrote did I say anything about political parties. Conservative/progressive are not political parties. This is basic, factual information. Way beyond the comprehension of some people, unfortunately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #12 July 14, 2014 funjumper101It never fails to amaze me how utterly ignorant Conservatives are. Nowhere in what I wrote did I say anything about political parties. Conservative/progressive are not political parties. This is basic, factual information. Way beyond the comprehension of some people, unfortunately. I'm not a conservative. I am just someone who paid attention in 6th grade history."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #13 July 14, 2014 DanGQuoteSlavery and Jim Crow were the party that was known as the Democrats at the time, but is not related to the current Democratic party. In cause you are interested in making a factual point. Ya know, in case you're interested in making a factual point. rewriting my sentence with your personal opinion does not make my post nonfactual. ya know."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #14 July 14, 2014 We've been over this 1,000 times here. There's no point in going over it again. People who lean right refuse to believe that the Party of Lincoln is not a direct ancestor of the GOP today. That's fine, but it doesn't change the history. Here's a parable: Guy walks into an antique shop and sees an axe for sale for $10,000. He asks the proprietor why the axe is so expensive. Proprietor: That's Abe Lincoln's axe he used to build his log cabin. Shopper: Wow, it's in really great shape. Proprietor: Yep, I've taken real good care of it. Replaced the head twice, and the handle four times. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 July 14, 2014 weekender***It never fails to amaze me how utterly ignorant Conservatives are. Nowhere in what I wrote did I say anything about political parties. Conservative/progressive are not political parties. This is basic, factual information. Way beyond the comprehension of some people, unfortunately. I'm not a conservative. I am just someone who paid attention in 6th grade history. Those of us who lived it first hand have a far different perspective. What used to be the Party of Lincoln is no more. It may have the same name but it does not support in any way the core values of the party that elected Eisenhower or Reagan. It morphed into some strange coalition of rabidly far right conservative Christians who believe conservatives of the former party are nothing but RINO's and corporate bought and paid for stooges. Most of the great men of the Party of Lincoln would not stand an icebergs chance in hell of making it thru a GOP primary in todays GOP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #16 July 14, 2014 DanGWe've been over this 1,000 times here. There's no point in going over it again. People who lean right refuse to believe that the Party of Lincoln is not a direct ancestor of the GOP today. That's fine, but it doesn't change the history. Here's a parable: Guy walks into an antique shop and sees an axe for sale for $10,000. He asks the proprietor why the axe is so expensive. Proprietor: That's Abe Lincoln's axe he used to build his log cabin. Shopper: Wow, it's in really great shape. Proprietor: Yep, I've taken real good care of it. Replaced the head twice, and the handle four times. thats not a parable nor disproves my factual statement. a parable is usually biblical and always illustrates a universal truth. that is more of an allegory or apologue and it doesnt change the facts of history. no matter how much you wish it too. The GOP freed the slaves and Jim Crow was a Democratic thing. the world is more complicated than conservative(Republican) bad, liberal(Democrate) good. That really is the only point i was trying to make. its childish to blame all problems on some boogie men."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #17 July 15, 2014 Having an inability to separate Democratic/Republican from Conservative/Liberal is not a sign of advanced education. Quite the opposite. The concept that ending slavery was the right thing to do was not a Conservative idea. It was a progressive/liberal idea. The concept of women's suffrage was and is not, in any way, a Conservative idea. It was and is 100% progressive/liberal. The concept of civil rights and equal access to public accommodations was and is not, in any way, a Conservative idea. It was and is 100% progressive/liberal. Try not to be confuddled by the right wing Conservative propaganda. The lack of factual information provided can make one think patently ridiculous things, for example, that the current POTUS is a Kenyan Muslim, without a valid birth certificate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #18 July 15, 2014 Quotea parable is usually biblical Nonsense; that's a culturally-centered perspective. Just because JC (so legend says) used the format skillfully and often, doesn't mean he or his devotees either invented it or cornered the bulk of the market on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #19 July 15, 2014 funjumper101Quote I guess the same thing could be said of those who want to force their employer to support the cost of their sex life... The consistent, deliberate lying by Conservatives gets really old. There are many medical uses for birth control pills that have nothing to do with contraception. That accounts for about 14% of users. It's not a lie to claim that contraceptives are used for contraception...the deliberate liars are the ones who say that it is. It's like saying that somebody is a liar for claiming that Cialis is used for erectile dysfunction because it can also be used to treat an enlarged prostate. funjumper101Medical insurance pays for Cialis and Viagra. Why would it noy pay for BC? Are companies being forced to help cover the cost of Cialis and Viagra for their employees?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #20 July 15, 2014 Andy9o8Quotea parable is usually biblical Nonsense; that's a culturally-centered perspective. Just because JC (so legend says) used the format skillfully and often, doesn't mean he or his devotees either invented it or cornered the bulk of the market on it. it is not nonsense. its a common definition of parable right out of google and merriam websters. also, i said usually for a reason because most people would associate it with the Bible but not all. JC doesnt even exist in the old testament as i recall so i might not have even been thinking of him. anyway, you missed my point completely. which was that a parable is about a universal truth. i was pointing out that Lincoln and modern day Republicans policies and their similarities and differences are not a universal truth."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #21 July 15, 2014 funjumper101Having an inability to separate Democratic/Republican from Conservative/Liberal is not a sign of advanced education. Quite the opposite. The concept that ending slavery was the right thing to do was not a Conservative idea. It was a progressive/liberal idea. The concept of women's suffrage was and is not, in any way, a Conservative idea. It was and is 100% progressive/liberal. The concept of civil rights and equal access to public accommodations was and is not, in any way, a Conservative idea. It was and is 100% progressive/liberal. Try not to be confuddled by the right wing Conservative propaganda. The lack of factual information provided can make one think patently ridiculous things, for example, that the current POTUS is a Kenyan Muslim, without a valid birth certificate. it seems to me that you have decided that all ideas that are good are progressive and all that are bad are conservative. i find life a bit more nuanced than that. its just not that black and white to me."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #22 July 15, 2014 Quote (to funjumper101) it seems to me that you have decided that all ideas that are good are progressive and all that are bad are conservative. He neither said nor implied that. He was simply one of several voices in here rebutting your revisionist history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #23 July 15, 2014 Andy9o8Quote (to funjumper101) it seems to me that you have decided that all ideas that are good are progressive and all that are bad are conservative. He neither said nor implied that. He was simply one of several voices in here rebutting your revisionist history. im not the one rewriting history. Lincoln was a Republican and the Democrats in the south created Jim Crow laws. those are facts and i'm not the one implying they are not. in all the events described he claims conservatives were in the wrong and progressives were in the right. seems like a clear implication to me. lastly, two people responded. i would not consider that several. a couple would seem like a more accurate description. edit to add: he said this earlier "Nothing positive for US society has ever come about via the practical application of Conservative values." gee, if only i knew what he was saying or implying"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #24 July 15, 2014 Quoteim not the one rewriting history. Lincoln was a Republican and the Democrats in the south created Jim Crow laws. those are facts and i'm not the one implying they are not. This has already been replied to, and replied to. It doesn't get better with repetition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #25 July 15, 2014 Andy9o8Quoteim not the one rewriting history. Lincoln was a Republican and the Democrats in the south created Jim Crow laws. those are facts and i'm not the one implying they are not. This has already been replied to, and replied to. It doesn't get better with repetition. you forced me to repeat it by saying i was rewriting history. my statement was accurate the first time and remains so in its repetition. as was my comment on a parable. as was my comment on him clearly stating conservatives are always wrong and progressives are always right. i even used a direct quote from him."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
