Remster 30 #26 July 17, 2014 Andy9o8Well this thread derailed fast. Swing them dicks! Swing low...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #27 July 17, 2014 billvon>There are probably a few people in the Amsterdam airport that are getting piss >drunk right now because they were on standby and the plane filled up. >Yeech. I get the willies just thinking about that. Another 20 minutes and I would have been on American Airlines flight 11. I drank a lot that week too. Steve Morrell had a ticket for Pan Am flight 103. A botched BASE jump kept him in Saudi Arabia, so he had the ticket in hand as he watched the report ('live from Lockerbie, Scotland...") on CNN. Any life worth living is a series of close calls. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #28 July 17, 2014 quade I'll have to check that out, but CNN isn't exactly the most credible source when it comes to reporting on Malaysian aircraft problems. When somebody official actually says it . . . sure . . . I'll go with that, but until then, just being "reported" on CNN isn't very definitive. Would you believe Margs sources... just sayin... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #29 July 17, 2014 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1405626203 Here is a video of the aftermath. Warning Graphic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #30 July 17, 2014 Just think, if there is actually someone out there targeting Malaysian Air how pissed they'll be.... The first one disappears and is written off as a likely onboard fire or nav issue so they hit another and it happens to go bang over the Ukraine and the Russians get the blame! (Not that I actually think its likely)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #31 July 18, 2014 Holy crap people at msnbc are stooopid. http://youngcons.com/msnbcs-live-eyewitness-exclusive-went-horribly-wrong-when-a-sergeant-called-to-discuss-plane-crash/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #32 July 18, 2014 >Holy crap people at msnbc are stooopid. Let's see what happens when they release the names of the cockpit crew. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #33 July 18, 2014 billvon>Holy crap people at msnbc are stooopid. Let's see what happens when they release the names of the cockpit crew. It was shot down by global warming.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #34 July 18, 2014 Quote It was shot down by global warming. I never thought of that. Sounds plausible though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 July 18, 2014 Pretty decent summary article from BBC. Malaysia plane crash: What we know http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28357880 Why can't the US just give the facts without speculation? Oh, ratings. Sorry.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #36 July 18, 2014 quadeIt's not a "side step." We don't KNOW the situation yet. This is what I've maintained and will continue to do so until there is an actual official report. You don't get "bonus forum points" for guessing right "first." Meanwhile, back to the situation in the Ukraine... The BBC is still taking a more conservative approach to reportage and not saying anything is definitive yet. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856 I can't recall the last time all commercial flights were rerouted around a very large air corridor when a Commercial AC went down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #37 July 18, 2014 jclalorI can't recall the last time all commercial flights were rerouted around a very large air corridor when a Commercial AC went down. THAT is just being prudent. During the LA riots pilots were advised not to fly over it either. That said, airlines were already not flying over the Ukraine before this happened. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/17/world/europe/maps-of-the-crash-of-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh17.htmlquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #38 July 18, 2014 >It was shot down by global warming. It was Obama's fault, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #39 July 18, 2014 Anyone speak Russian? Intercepted audio: http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000003007434/intercepted-audio-of-ukraine-separatists.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #40 July 18, 2014 ryoderAnyone speak Russian? Intercepted audio: http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000003007434/intercepted-audio-of-ukraine-separatists.html "Ukraine released what it said was ..." The propaganda potential value of this entire event is quite large.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #41 July 18, 2014 Quote Intercepted audio: http://www.nytimes.com/...ine-separatists.html I read this plane was flying at over 30,000 feet. Their stuff can reach that height??? Wow...We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #42 July 18, 2014 quade***I can't recall the last time all commercial flights were rerouted around a very large air corridor when a Commercial AC went down. THAT is just being prudent. During the LA riots pilots were advised not to fly over it either. That said, airlines were already not flying over the Ukraine before this happened. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/17/world/europe/maps-of-the-crash-of-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh17.html Obviously.. they were spies on the airliner... like KAL. Looks like the Cossacks still like that "You are a Spy" thing. http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/separatists-admit-downing-a-civilian-plane-in-tapped-conversation-full-transcript-356545.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m529gft 0 #43 July 18, 2014 So is there a law on here against speculating on DZ Quade? I can understand when a skydiving issue/incident is being discussed, but surely people can speculate on a non-skydiving air crash. People are after all using the very limited info available at this time. Perhaps this thread should be locked until the full air-crash investigation report is published? Werewolves not swearwolves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #44 July 18, 2014 Wish I had one of those "Russia Sucks" bumper stickers from the 80's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #45 July 18, 2014 ryoderAnyone speak Russian? Intercepted audio: http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000003007434/intercepted-audio-of-ukraine-separatists.html For Blaze TV subscribers, Real News, 17 Jul 14, had the audio translated. You can view it in replay.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #46 July 18, 2014 StreetScoobyQuote Intercepted audio: http://www.nytimes.com/...ine-separatists.html I read this plane was flying at over 30,000 feet. Their stuff can reach that height??? Wow... Specs here say it can hit a/c up to 80,000': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #47 July 18, 2014 Rebel leader deleted tweet bragging that they downed a plane: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11295584"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #48 July 18, 2014 billvon>It was shot down by global warming. It was Obama's fault, of course. Just like one of you inevitably blaming it on george bush. Or the Koch Brothers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #49 July 18, 2014 WTH?Russian news agency still reporting that the *rebels* downed a "military transport" yesterday: http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741164 ETA: Google cache for the page which will surely be pulled shortly: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741164 "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #50 July 18, 2014 ryoder *** Quote Intercepted audio: http://www.nytimes.com/...ine-separatists.html I read this plane was flying at over 30,000 feet. Their stuff can reach that height??? Wow... Specs here say it can hit a/c up to 80,000': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system Yeah the Ruskies have had the capability to shoot things up high since that whole Gary Powers thing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
