kallend 2,029 #26 July 30, 2014 quadeQuoteBased on this method... And understand that's just one way of looking at corruption; politicians. I'd also put Delaware pretty high up on the list for its "legal" corruption of allowing out of state corporations pretend to be based there to get around taxes and other legal requirements. I was just in Turkey on a sailing vacation and was surprised to see a large number of small boats registered in Delaware. Asked a skipper and the reply was that it's the cheapest place.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 July 30, 2014 kallend***QuoteBased on this method... And understand that's just one way of looking at corruption; politicians. I'd also put Delaware pretty high up on the list for its "legal" corruption of allowing out of state corporations pretend to be based there to get around taxes and other legal requirements. I was just in Turkey on a sailing vacation and was surprised to see a large number of small boats registered in Delaware. Asked a skipper and the reply was that it's the cheapest place. Ahem . . . "Liberia." Notice how many shipping and cruise companies with US names are somehow magically under the "Liberian" flag. Grrr. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberian_Companiesquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,373 #28 July 30, 2014 Hi rush, QuoteAnd every year they get an automatic budget increase For me, it is now pretty obvious that you simply do not know much about the federal budgeting process. You should stick to what you do know. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #29 July 30, 2014 quade******QuoteBased on this method... And understand that's just one way of looking at corruption; politicians. I'd also put Delaware pretty high up on the list for its "legal" corruption of allowing out of state corporations pretend to be based there to get around taxes and other legal requirements. I was just in Turkey on a sailing vacation and was surprised to see a large number of small boats registered in Delaware. Asked a skipper and the reply was that it's the cheapest place. Ahem . . . "Liberia." Notice how many shipping and cruise companies with US names are somehow magically under the "Liberian" flag. Grrr. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberian_Companies Its all good as long as you don't have to travel there to do the paperwork. http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/27/world/africa/ebola-american-doctor-infected/index.html I wonder if they will allow them back in this country if they survive and are now carrying the virus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #30 July 31, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi rush, QuoteAnd every year they get an automatic budget increase For me, it is now pretty obvious that you simply do not know much about the federal budgeting process. You should stick to what you do know. JerryBaumchen Likewise, I was referring to the profit motive of business, not federal budgeting. I think we all can agree that the federal government does not seek profitable ventures.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 July 31, 2014 JerryBaumchen Hi rush, Quote And every year they get an automatic budget increase For me, it is now pretty obvious that you simply do not know much about the federal budgeting process. You should stick to what you do know. JerryBaumchen Too bad for you There have been automatic increased for years Then, when someone tries shrink the increase the left screams cuts Edited to add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-based_budgeting Edited to add again Now I may have mis characterized this a bit While the increases are not automatic, the budgeting process starts from the baseline of what was spent the previous year I wish I could budget like this"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 July 31, 2014 kallend***QuoteBased on this method... And understand that's just one way of looking at corruption; politicians. I'd also put Delaware pretty high up on the list for its "legal" corruption of allowing out of state corporations pretend to be based there to get around taxes and other legal requirements. I was just in Turkey on a sailing vacation and was surprised to see a large number of small boats registered in Delaware. Asked a skipper and the reply was that it's the cheapest place. You just found this out? Just ask John Kerry"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,460 #33 July 31, 2014 When I worked for the private sector (major corporations) the rule was the same. You always made sure you spent all of last year's budget so that you got at least that much again. Yeah I thought it was kind of stupid. And in marketing, your next year's quota was bigger than last year's sales, even if you had the best year in history because of some external factor that would never be repeated. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,029 #34 July 31, 2014 rushmc******QuoteBased on this method... And understand that's just one way of looking at corruption; politicians. I'd also put Delaware pretty high up on the list for its "legal" corruption of allowing out of state corporations pretend to be based there to get around taxes and other legal requirements. I was just in Turkey on a sailing vacation and was surprised to see a large number of small boats registered in Delaware. Asked a skipper and the reply was that it's the cheapest place. You just found this out? Just ask John Kerry John Kerry has a sailboat in Turkey?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,029 #35 July 31, 2014 quade******QuoteBased on this method... And understand that's just one way of looking at corruption; politicians. I'd also put Delaware pretty high up on the list for its "legal" corruption of allowing out of state corporations pretend to be based there to get around taxes and other legal requirements. I was just in Turkey on a sailing vacation and was surprised to see a large number of small boats registered in Delaware. Asked a skipper and the reply was that it's the cheapest place. Ahem . . . "Liberia." Notice how many shipping and cruise companies with US names are somehow magically under the "Liberian" flag. Grrr. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberian_Companies Maybe for large ships. Didn't see a single sailboat registered in Liberia.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #36 July 31, 2014 Last nights episode of "The Daily Show" on corporate inversion: http://thedailyshow.cc.com/full-episodes/6h8bal/july-30--2014---maggie-gyllenhaal"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #37 July 31, 2014 rushmc******QuoteBased on this method... And understand that's just one way of looking at corruption; politicians. I'd also put Delaware pretty high up on the list for its "legal" corruption of allowing out of state corporations pretend to be based there to get around taxes and other legal requirements. I was just in Turkey on a sailing vacation and was surprised to see a large number of small boats registered in Delaware. Asked a skipper and the reply was that it's the cheapest place. You just found this out? Just ask John Kerry Is that where his Swiftboat was registered?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #38 July 31, 2014 kallend John Kerry has a sailboat in Turkey? No, John Kerry IS a turkey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #39 July 31, 2014 kallendMaybe for large ships. Didn't see a single sailboat registered in Liberia. Mine's registered in Delaware. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #40 July 31, 2014 RonD1120***Hi rush, QuoteAnd every year they get an automatic budget increase For me, it is now pretty obvious that you simply do not know much about the federal budgeting process. You should stick to what you do know. JerryBaumchen Likewise, I was referring to the profit motive of business, not federal budgeting. I think we all can agree that the federal government does not seek profitable ventures. Nor should the federal government (or government at any level) be solely basing decisions on profit. You simply cannot run a government like a business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #41 July 31, 2014 SkyDekker******Hi rush, QuoteAnd every year they get an automatic budget increase For me, it is now pretty obvious that you simply do not know much about the federal budgeting process. You should stick to what you do know. JerryBaumchen Likewise, I was referring to the profit motive of business, not federal budgeting. I think we all can agree that the federal government does not seek profitable ventures. Nor should the federal government (or government at any level) be solely basing decisions on profit. You simply cannot run a government like a business. Unless the dumbasses turn the government over to business... as they are trying to do now for their Tea Baggery Masters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #42 July 31, 2014 Ahhh. Corporate inversions. There's a solution to that problem. Like making the US a tax haven again. Like it used to be. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #43 July 31, 2014 Quote No, John Kerry IS a turkey. Yeah, John Kerry a turkey... NOT. The honorable John Kerry is highly decorated veteran excoriated by the Reich Wing America haters in 2004. The same people who pretend to shit a brick if anything bad is said about any other veterans. Those scumbags shit all over the Purple Heart medal with their band aids shaped like the medal. John Kerry speaks four languages fluently. He has multiple advanced degrees from top rated universities. He married a billionaire widow. He must be really stupid to be able to perform that well in so many areas. Shrub was and is unqualified to launder John Kerry's jockstrap. Shrub caused the deaths of thousands of Americans on 9/11, by his total lack of action, in spite of the warnings provided by Richard Clarke. Shrub killed thousands more Americans, and gravely wounded many thousands more, by conducting the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Not to mention the tens of thousands of Iraq citizens killed, and the hundreds of thousands that became refugees. John Kerry has all that money and he still worked to help the average citizen when he was a Senator. He continues to help the USA as SecState. For the Reich Wingers, that makes him a turkey, apparently. Scary, isn't it? How abjectly clueless is it possible to be? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #44 July 31, 2014 >Nope. I recognize the state is set up for the benefit of corporations; favorable >rulings far away from where they really do business More like quick and consistent rulings, which is to the benefit of any corporation. >and difficult for the little guy to get to compared to them. The "little guy" may well benefit by being incorporated in a different state. New York for example, levies next to no state taxes for the first ten years of a corporation's existence. Thus a New Jersey corporation that's just starting out might go across the border for the tax benefits, or might incorporate in Delaware for their streamlined legal process. Good for New York and Delaware. If (for example) California wants to compete in that arena, they could put the same effort that New York and Delaware did into their legal and taxation systems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #45 July 31, 2014 Both of you cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #46 July 31, 2014 funjumper101Quote No, John Kerry IS a turkey. Yeah, John Kerry a turkey... NOT. The honorable John Kerry is highly decorated veteran excoriated by the Reich Wing America haters in 2004. The same people who pretend to shit a brick if anything bad is said about any other veterans. Those scumbags shit all over the Purple Heart medal with their band aids shaped like the medal. John Kerry speaks four languages fluently. He has multiple advanced degrees from top rated universities. He married a billionaire widow. He must be really stupid to be able to perform that well in so many areas. Shrub was and is unqualified to launder John Kerry's jockstrap. Shrub caused the deaths of thousands of Americans on 9/11, by his total lack of action, in spite of the warnings provided by Richard Clarke. Shrub killed thousands more Americans, and gravely wounded many thousands more, by conducting the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Not to mention the tens of thousands of Iraq citizens killed, and the hundreds of thousands that became refugees. John Kerry has all that money and he still worked to help the average citizen when he was a Senator. He continues to help the USA as SecState. For the Reich Wingers, that makes him a turkey, apparently. Scary, isn't it? How abjectly clueless is it possible to be? You have rather conclusively demonstrated that. Repeatedly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #47 July 31, 2014 >The honorable John Kerry is highly decorated veteran . . . John Kerry speaks >four languages fluently. . . . He married a billionaire widow. . . . John Kerry has >all that money All true. He's still a turkey. The fact that he may have been a better choice than another turkey doesn't remove his pheasant status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #48 August 1, 2014 lawrocketAhhh. Corporate inversions. There's a solution to that problem. Like making the US a tax haven again. Like it used to be. An essay on that idea: http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/07/corporate_income_tax_loopholes_and_inversions_why_america_should_consider.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #49 August 1, 2014 [Reply] Yeah, John Kerry a turkey... NOT. I pose a question: when was the last time the Israelis and the Palestinians were in full agreement on anything? I cannot think of one. Even the Oslo accords sharply divided people and resulted in Rabin getting capped. But in the last week, the entirety of the Middle East - Hamas, Israel, Palestinian Authority - were in full agreement that John Kerry was a dumbass who at best had no impact but in all likelihood just made it worse. Go on and on about the achievements. His history. Good for him. His legacy as Secretary of State will be his utter mishandling of Syria and his total mishandling of this Gaza problem. When israel and the Palestinians are in full agreement on something, it means that whatever it was - in this case a failure - was spectacular. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
