stayhigh 2 #176 August 6, 2014 Yeah the unicorns! They eat rainbows for their source of energy! If I pray everyday for 5 mins, I get to ride real unicorn once I die and get accepted into Santa land. Santa says only the good kids and adults gets to ride the unicorn. All of the other religion is hearsay, farce, blasphemy, and all those sad people who can not accept the Santa Clause as their god will never get to ride unicorn, and they will be forever working in a barn. Where they have to pick up unicorn shit for rest of their eternal life. The unicorns do not shit rainbows by the way. Once all the rainbow gets mixed up and you get which color??Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #177 August 6, 2014 stayhighYeah the unicorns! They eat rainbows for their source of energy! If I pray everyday for 5 mins, I get to ride real unicorn once I die and get accepted into Santa land. Santa says only the good kids and adults gets to ride the unicorn. All of the other religion is hearsay, farce, blasphemy, and all those sad people who can not accept the Santa Clause as their god will never get to ride unicorn, and they will be forever working in a barn. Where they have to pick up unicorn shit for rest of their eternal life. The unicorns do not shit rainbows by the way. Once all the rainbow gets mixed up and you get which color?? It, like my unicorn, is invisible and pink. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #178 August 6, 2014 RonD1120********* But I don't think even 40 million years is enough for random straight >lines to become more than just that. It's not. But if you had a physical process that went through all those lines and threw out the ugly ones every night, after 40 million years you'd have some incredibly beautiful, intricate drawings. And process is the right word here too. It doesn't take any being to do the work. The connections are made all by themselves. An electrical charge brings two atoms together and they connect all by themselves (sort of like magnets) when the conditions are right and break apart when conditions change. It goes on for millions and millions of years. Very simplistic view that appears to work fine if all you consider is the general theory of relativity & macro physics. It is totally inadequate when you throw in quantum mechanics. ... What qualifications do you have to offer any opinion whatever on quantum mechanics? Do you have a PhD in physics? That begs the question, do you have a ThD in theology? My degrees are in subjects that are real and testable. Creation myths of neolithic peoples are cute but hardly relevant.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #179 August 6, 2014 UNICORNS ARE REAL!!! SANTA IS REAL!!! All of you can not be accepted into Santa land, if you don't have faithBernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #180 August 6, 2014 stayhighUNICORNS ARE REAL!!! SANTA IS REAL!!! All of you can not be accepted into Santa land, if you don't have faith Unicorns ARE real. They are just fat, grey, and we call them Rhinos.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #181 August 6, 2014 You are mocking my religion now. Not appreciated.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #182 August 6, 2014 kallend****** What qualifications do you have to offer any opinion whatever on quantum mechanics? Do you have a PhD in physics? That begs the question, do you have a ThD in theology? My degrees are in subjects that are real and testable. Creation myths of neolithic peoples are cute but hardly relevant. I understand exactly what you mean. My checkbook is always balanced, I regularly compute MPG for my motorcycle and maybe once a year I have to solve an equation with one or two unknowns. Outside of that, mathematics is amusing but not very relevant in my reality. If you don't use it, it's not important. If you do use it, nothing else matters. My spiritual relationship with Christ is like that.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #183 August 6, 2014 QuoteIf you don't use it, it's not important. If you do use it, nothing else matters. My spiritual relationship with Christ is like that. Well sure, but the thread is about physics "proving" God exists. BTW, your new signature is stupid, and not exactly a great example of positive words of encouragement from the Conservative side. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #184 August 7, 2014 RonD1120 That begs the question, do you have a ThD in theology? I don't believe Kallend does, but perhaps you should consider that some other people posting on here might."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #185 August 7, 2014 RonD1120That begs the question, do you have a ThD... Well, to be fair, he's not a scarecrow and has never been to Oz. The Wizard does just hand out those Doctor of Thinkology diplomas to anyone though. No big whoop. Doesn't even require accurate math. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxrlcLktcxUquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #186 August 7, 2014 QuoteWhat qualifications do you have to offer any opinion whatever on quantum mechanics? Do you have a PhD in physics? Odd question, borderline arrogant and elitist. I am more impressed by what someone says, not by how smart they say they are. I spent 8 years in college graduating in science and medicine. I have been learning and practicing for over 30 years. Physics is my passion, I love the stuff. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #187 August 7, 2014 Sums it up nicely!“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #188 August 7, 2014 Southern_Man*** That begs the question, do you have a ThD in theology? I don't believe Kallend does, but perhaps you should consider that some other people posting on here might. Amen! Would that be you? I made a poke at kallend because he believes he is an authority on all subjects because he has a PhD.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #189 August 7, 2014 maadmax QuoteWhat qualifications do you have to offer any opinion whatever on quantum mechanics? Do you have a PhD in physics? Odd question, borderline arrogant and elitist. I am more impressed by what someone says, not by how smart they say they are. I spent 8 years in college graduating in science and medicine. I have been learning and practicing for over 30 years. Physics is my passion, I love the stuff. ... Maybe you should have paid more attention to your passion. Then you'd recognize the pseudo-science mumbo-jumbo in the video you posted.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #190 August 7, 2014 RonD1120****** That begs the question, do you have a ThD in theology? I don't believe Kallend does, but perhaps you should consider that some other people posting on here might. Amen! Would that be you? I made a poke at kallend because he believes he is an authority on all subjects because he has a PhD. As it happens, I teach quantum mechanics, which IS the topic under discussion here. Quantum mechanics - testable and found accurate to the limit of experimental accuracy, error less than 1 part in 10 Trillion. Theology - not one shred of evidence in support of any of its tenets.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #191 August 7, 2014 Prepare for the butt hurt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #192 August 7, 2014 kallend ********* That begs the question, do you have a ThD in theology? I don't believe Kallend does, but perhaps you should consider that some other people posting on here might. Amen! Would that be you? I made a poke at kallend because he believes he is an authority on all subjects because he has a PhD. As it happens, I teach quantum mechanics, which IS the topic under discussion here. Quantum mechanics - testable and found accurate to the limit of experimental accuracy, error less than 1 part in 10 Trillion. Theology - not one shred of evidence in support of any of its tenets. Yeah but can Quantum Mechanics explain why you feel joy sailing the Aegean basking in the sun with a lovely lady by your side? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #193 August 7, 2014 QuoteMaybe you should have paid more attention to your passion. Then you'd recognize the pseudo-science mumbo-jumbo in the video you posted. Other than the ending, which I know offends your delicate sensibilities, please point out the mumbo jumbo. You have my complete attention. Otherwise you are just flapping in the wind. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #194 August 7, 2014 RonD1120That begs the question, do you have a ThD in theology? " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question." aka Petito Pricipi, is a version of circular logic. The expression almost always misused. IIRC, a Ph.D. trumps a Th.D. by a long shot. I have a D.D., which is on a par with a Th.D., as well as an M.S., B.S. - and am a B.M.F. as well. (Apologies to C. Marin) BSBD. Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #195 August 7, 2014 It made me feel like I was having flashbacks to watching What the bleep do we know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #196 August 7, 2014 kallend********* That begs the question, do you have a ThD in theology? I don't believe Kallend does, but perhaps you should consider that some other people posting on here might. Amen! Would that be you? I made a poke at kallend because he believes he is an authority on all subjects because he has a PhD. As it happens, I teach quantum mechanics, which IS the topic under discussion here. Quantum mechanics - testable and found accurate to the limit of experimental accuracy, error less than 1 part in 10 Trillion. Theology - not one shred of evidence in support of any of its tenets. I don't question your credentials. Your application of them amuses me. As I stated earlier, there is no place for them in my reality. Really, I don't even know if a quantum exists for certain. Much less on how to take it apart. You, and some others, say it exists but I have no evidence of it. You speak in terms that have no meaning in my world. For me the vocabulary and terminology is just the stuff of science fiction and fantasy.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #197 August 7, 2014 winsor " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_questionBegging the Question." aka Petito Pricipi, is a version of circular logic. The expression almost always misused. BSBD. Winsor ??? See snip attached.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #198 August 7, 2014 Single wording only and it works fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #199 August 7, 2014 normiss Single wording only and it works fine Too complicated for me. I'm not that way. It always meant to me, you made me think of question for you.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #200 August 7, 2014 RonD1120 ***Single wording only and it works fine Too complicated for me. I'm not that way. It always meant to me, you made me think of question for you. I do not know how that got garbled up, but I think the link is fixed now. Irving M. Copi, in his "Introduction to Logic," used an example of Petito Pricipi along the lines of: People with good literary taste are more likely to read Shakespeare than Harold Robbins. How can you tell if they have good literary taste? They are reading Shakespeare, not Harold Robbins. Here the premise is the conclusion. The answer is thus begging the question. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
