kallend 2,027 #826 October 13, 2014 cvfd1399 Quote Resorting to insults is a clear indication that you know you are wrong. Funny I had to point the same thing out to you yesterday! No, you just claimed an insult because I pointed out some FACTS that you didn't like. You aren't entitled to your own facts.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #827 October 14, 2014 rushmc***Destroying their town? What you call candle light vigil, that article describes as demonstrations. Including pictures of signs that read "hands up, don't shoot", directly taken from the Ferguson incident. I read those two incidents and think there is a huge racially charged issue in the US. You appear to be reading it as white people reacting better than black people. You might be part of the problem.you need more news sources I was going by the article linked, which the poster posted as reasoning for his position. I don't need more sources to see the incredible racial tension in the US. These issues are far from over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #828 October 14, 2014 kallend *** Quote Resorting to insults is a clear indication that you know you are wrong. Funny I had to point the same thing out to you yesterday! No, you just claimed an insult because I pointed out some FACTS that you didn't like. You aren't entitled to your own facts. that's ok. you claimed insult and then clipped the part of the post that labeled it as levity.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #829 October 14, 2014 SkyDekker******Destroying their town? What you call candle light vigil, that article describes as demonstrations. Including pictures of signs that read "hands up, don't shoot", directly taken from the Ferguson incident. I read those two incidents and think there is a huge racially charged issue in the US. You appear to be reading it as white people reacting better than black people. You might be part of the problem.you need more news sources I was going by the article linked, which the poster posted as reasoning for his position. I don't need more sources to see the incredible racial tension in the US. These issues are far from over. Of course the issue exists Where ever there are people there will always be issues like this The point is, it is not as bad as you, the left, the media and the race industry would have everyone believe. Same for Fergeson MO Most of the people there the other day were not even from the area. They were brought in to try and keep the myth going that white cops kill black kids often Which is another lie"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #830 October 14, 2014 QuoteThey were brought in to try and keep the myth going that white cops kill black kids often The "myth" is not necessarily that white cops kill black kids often. The "myth" is that when a white cop kills a black kid, the department covers it up and he doesn't get prosecuted for it. So far that "myth" seems to be holding true in a number of recent high profile cases, including Ferguson. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #831 October 14, 2014 DanGQuoteThey were brought in to try and keep the myth going that white cops kill black kids often The "myth" is not necessarily that white cops kill black kids often. The "myth" is that when a white cop kills a black kid, the department covers it up and he doesn't get prosecuted for it. So far that "myth" seems to be holding true in a number of recent high profile cases, including Ferguson. Ok You mention it like it happens often You have the Ferguson case Name and maybe another since in MO Name any more recent ones? And cops cover up ALL of thier bs So what does this have to do with race in the end???"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #832 October 14, 2014 QuoteThe point is, it is not as bad as you, the left, the media and the race industry would have everyone believe. Bad enough to lead to a cop yelling he was going to fucking kill them while pointing a shotgun. Bad enough that it leads to riots. Doesn't surprise me that you wouldn't consider that a particular issue. But, keep putting your head in the sand, pretending that the problem is because of the "race industry", whatever that is. I am sure it is a very productive stance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #833 October 14, 2014 Quote I am sure it is a very productive stance. Just as productive as making it sound like it is an everyday thing, it isn't and I'm sure you know that. ANY killing it a tragedy, when a police office kills unnecessarily it is even worse as we place our trust in the police. For me this - and others - has become the tipping point. I believe that the right to own a gun has got ahead (to far) of the responsibility to own a gun. The police are jumpy because they get shot at a LOT more than say the English police. Second, all police officers should be required to have body video - no video no gun - and the Fed's should pay for it (we the people) Did any of you see the video of the kid that got shot when he pulled his hand out of his shirt? The office is telling him to stop? (Personally I think the kid wanted to die) The video ended all the b.s. about the kid raising his hands.... I'm sure other video's could prove other cops guilty.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #834 October 14, 2014 QuoteJust as productive as making it sound like it is an everyday thing, it isn't and I'm sure you know that. Racism is an everyday thing. An every day thing many people are intimately aware of. It isn't an every day thing that it boils over. QuoteANY killing it a tragedy, when a police office kills unnecessarily it is even worse as we place our trust in the police And even worse when people get treated differently based on the colour of their skin. Getting pulled over for "driving while black" is not something imaginary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #835 October 14, 2014 All true....just as some of the minorities in Canada are very dissatisfied as to how they are treated, we have the same issues here. Here's hoping both countries get their head out of their asses.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #836 October 15, 2014 DanGQuoteThey were brought in to try and keep the myth going that white cops kill black kids often The "myth" is not necessarily that white cops kill black kids often. The "myth" is that when a white cop kills a black kid, the department covers it up and he doesn't get prosecuted for it. So far that "myth" seems to be holding true in a number of recent high profile cases, including Ferguson. The myth is not necessarily that when a white cop kills a black kid, the department covers it up. The 'myth' is that whenever a white cop kills a black kid the black kid is an innocent little guy helping an old lady across the street, not a gang member out to break the law and/or assault/rob innocent people, or with a chip on his shoulder refusing to acknowledge police have legitimate powers to request certain things from citizens, such as identification or that they obey traffic laws, etc (such as not jaywalking down the road)...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #837 October 15, 2014 RobertMBlevins The REAL problem going in the police/justice system isn't the occasional high-profile shooting turned into hot media for the masses. It is the proportion of white to black persons incarcerated for the same crimes. Black people are six times more likely to be incarcerated: Quote 'According to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), African Americans constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population, and have nearly six times the rate of whites...' And it doesn't end there. People of color or poverty are much more likely to be executed than whites. Well...there are serious screw-ups in the death penalty system anyway... (From my own article at Newsvine, Ten Good Reasons to Stop Executing People in the United States, which has been linked out to dozens of sites) And the whole ridiculous thing doesn't stop there, either. Incarceration is no longer really a punishment, not entirely, although as a secondary goal it still serves that function. These days, it is a HUGE business that requires more and more bodies and money to keep it going. It's even a major part of Reality TV now. (From my Newsvine article The Self-Perpetuating Entity of America's Prison System.) Yeah. Welcome to the 21st century version of justice. It's a business. Bummer. It's not just black incarceration. The USA has an absurdly high overall rate: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate#mediaviewer/File:Prisoner_population_rate_world_2012_map.png davidmixner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c90b153ef0191049bf94c970c-500wi And it's primarily driven by southern states: www.thenorthstarnews.com/Content/101/NSN-graphics-states-with-the-highest-incarceration-rates-07-30-2013.png... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #838 October 15, 2014 Primarily southern states put primarily black people in prison? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #839 October 15, 2014 Crime follows poverty not race.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #840 October 15, 2014 cvfd1399Crime follows poverty not race.... it also correlates with temperature. Hot makes people mad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #841 October 15, 2014 cvfd1399Crime follows poverty not race.... And if society has made it more difficult for one race to succeed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #842 October 15, 2014 QuoteAnd if society has made it more difficult for one race to succeed? Im not even going to go there with you in this thread. If you want to discuss it I will be more than happy if you wish to start a new one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #843 October 15, 2014 SkyDekker***Crime follows poverty not race.... And if society has made it more difficult for one race to succeed? these are called welfare programs"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #844 October 15, 2014 rushmc******Crime follows poverty not race.... And if society has made it more difficult for one race to succeed? these are called welfare programs You mean like subsidies for oil and coal companies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #845 October 15, 2014 Quote You mean like subsidies for oil and coal companies? Really???? Really, thats all you know how to do here.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #846 October 15, 2014 cvfd1399QuoteAnd if society has made it more difficult for one race to succeed? Im not even going to go there with you in this thread. If you want to discuss it I will be more than happy if you wish to start a new one. Why? This whole thread has been about race... Poverty tends to be higher among non-white communities. Is that beacuse they are lazier, or dummer, or because there are external issues and forces reducing their ability to succeed? Or is it because of welfare like rush pointed out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #847 October 15, 2014 Quote Is that beacuse they are lazier, or dummer, or because there are external issues and forces reducing their ability to succeed? Yea that sealed the deal for me..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #848 October 15, 2014 cvfd1399 Quote You mean like subsidies for oil and coal companies? Really???? Really, thats all you know how to do here.... When it comes to rush and his off topic one liners....yeah. I have tried logical arguments and sicussions with him, but it has proven to be impossible. Actually many have tried, non have succeeded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #849 October 15, 2014 cvfd1399 Quote Is that beacuse they are lazier, or dummer, or because there are external issues and forces reducing their ability to succeed? Then why is poverty amongst those cultures higher? Yea that sealed the deal for me..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #850 October 15, 2014 SkyDekker***QuoteAnd if society has made it more difficult for one race to succeed? Im not even going to go there with you in this thread. If you want to discuss it I will be more than happy if you wish to start a new one. Why? This whole thread has been about race... Poverty tends to be higher among non-white communities. Is that beacuse they are lazier, or dummer, or because there are external issues and forces reducing their ability to succeed? Or is it because of welfare like rush pointed out? The shit welfare causes happens to anyone Despite their color It entraps so many who chose to just live off the gov and they will continue to do so as long as society offers it up"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
