JerryBaumchen 1,436 #1151 December 3, 2014 Hi rush, Quotetherefore he is inocent Do you believe that OJ Simpson is innocent regarding the murder of two people? Just asking, Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #1152 December 3, 2014 airdvr******IMO, cops shootings need to NOT be investigated by local authorities. We must see outside, non-biased investigations into shootings. Absolutely. As soon as one of those panels doesn't find to your liking then you'll cry unfair or not good enough. Hey, can you also predict next year's winner of the Kentucky Derby?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1153 December 4, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi rush, Quotetherefore he is inocent Do you believe that OJ Simpson is innocent regarding the murder of two people? Just asking, Jerry Baumchen Not that it matters but, no But that does not mean he should be treated as guilty nor should thugs get approval to riot"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #1154 December 18, 2014 Is this Michael Brown beating and robbing an old man? I'm not all that sure... Where's the outrage over stuff like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2eDyaq3mQ "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #1155 December 18, 2014 QuoteWhere's the outrage over stuff like this? Thank you for proving my point from the other thread. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #1156 December 18, 2014 BillyVance Is this Michael Brown beating and robbing an old man? I'm not all that sure... Where's the outrage over stuff like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2eDyaq3mQ I'm upset at that video and any time I see evidence of this level of anger, violence, and disregard of others. But I'm not sure there's an action left against MB. Can't arrest him and try him for clear assault, now, can we? He's not in a position to do it to another. There might be evidence to arrest a couple of the others for participating..... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1157 December 19, 2014 Interesting read: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/unmasking-Ferguson-witness-40-496236 Am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1158 December 19, 2014 SkyDekkerInteresting read: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/unmasking-Ferguson-witness-40-496236 Am Hmmmm MULTIPLE witnesses stated the same as she did But, in your "desire" to turn this into something it is not, you seem to wish to focus on things that have no bearing You are wrong get over it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1159 December 19, 2014 Some more interesting reading: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/Ferguson-toilet-tale-687543 Interesting choices in "witnesses" to bring to the Grand Jury. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1160 December 19, 2014 SkyDekkerSome more interesting reading: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/Ferguson-toilet-tale-687543 Interesting choices in "witnesses" to bring to the Grand Jury. and if they had not brought her?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1161 December 19, 2014 So far witness 40 and witness 41 should simply not have made it to the grand jury. It calls into question the quality of the other witnesses presented. It also should make you wonder why witnesses like that were presented in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1162 December 19, 2014 SkyDekkerSo far witness 40 and witness 41 should simply not have made it to the grand jury. It calls into question the quality of the other witnesses presented. It also should make you wonder why witnesses like that were presented in the first place. Since you and I can only speckulate, I wonder if they were covering their asses Because should they keep a witness out then the questions arise around why, what are they trying to hide? The typical bs For me, the phone video with the people talking at the scene. those who stated they saw what most of the witness told the jury, make the decision pretty solid for me But the race industry has to question the motives and process to keep the followers in line"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #1163 December 19, 2014 Thanks for your continued contributions to that endeavor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #1164 December 19, 2014 SkyDekkerSo far witness 40 and witness 41 should simply not have made it to the grand jury. unless you can prove they are lying, I don't see how one can exclude them however, I would think their testimony is less than complete unless the other side also gets to put forth the 'rest of the story' it's why there is a prosecution and a defense - and both need to do their jobs (that said, I don't know how a grand jury proceeding might have different rules than what I'd expect from a jury trial proceeding) What I'm more interested in, is whether all this stuff in those two links....was it presented to the grand jury also? AND, were any of the counter arguments also vetted as thoroughly and completely presented? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1165 December 19, 2014 Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. Why include an eye-witness who wasn't even there? One who has previously obviously lied to get involved in a police investigation. One who is so obviously racist? Even though those parts did not get presented at the Grand Jury. Why include witnesses whose story is so unbelievable, that it likely will get dismissed instantly? And not sure how Thesmokinggun.com is part of the "race industry"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1166 December 19, 2014 SkyDekkerSorry, that doesn't make any sense. Why include an eye-witness who wasn't even there? One who has previously obviously lied to get involved in a police investigation. One who is so obviously racist? Even though those parts did not get presented at the Grand Jury. Why include witnesses whose story is so unbelievable, that it likely will get dismissed instantly? And not sure how Thesmokinggun.com is part of the "race industry"? Hey for the most part I agree with you The smoking gun is just the messanger so I am not talking about them I am talking about those in the court system that brought those people forward and why they may have done that"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1167 December 19, 2014 rehmwa***So far witness 40 and witness 41 should simply not have made it to the grand jury. unless you can prove they are lying, I don't see how one can exclude them however, I would think their testimony is less than complete unless the other side also gets to put forth the 'rest of the story' it's why there is a prosecution and a defense - and both need to do their jobs (that said, I don't know how a grand jury proceeding might have different rules than what I'd expect from a jury trial proceeding) What I'm more interested in, is whether all this stuff in those two links....was it presented to the grand jury also? AND, were any of the counter arguments also vetted as thoroughly and completely presented? There is no defence on a grand jury....just a prosecutor. There simply isn't anybody else to provide "the other side" of the story. It is assumed the prosecutor actually wants to get the indictment. It is very rare for a prosecutor not to get the indictment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #1168 December 20, 2014 SkyDekker******So far witness 40 and witness 41 should simply not have made it to the grand jury. unless you can prove they are lying, I don't see how one can exclude them however, I would think their testimony is less than complete unless the other side also gets to put forth the 'rest of the story' it's why there is a prosecution and a defense - and both need to do their jobs (that said, I don't know how a grand jury proceeding might have different rules than what I'd expect from a jury trial proceeding) What I'm more interested in, is whether all this stuff in those two links....was it presented to the grand jury also? AND, were any of the counter arguments also vetted as thoroughly and completely presented? There is no defence on a grand jury....just a prosecutor. There simply isn't anybody else to provide "the other side" of the story. It is assumed the prosecutor actually wants to get the indictment. It is very rare for a prosecutor not to get the indictment. OK, so what is your issue with the outcome?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1169 December 22, 2014 turtlespeed*********So far witness 40 and witness 41 should simply not have made it to the grand jury. unless you can prove they are lying, I don't see how one can exclude them however, I would think their testimony is less than complete unless the other side also gets to put forth the 'rest of the story' it's why there is a prosecution and a defense - and both need to do their jobs (that said, I don't know how a grand jury proceeding might have different rules than what I'd expect from a jury trial proceeding) What I'm more interested in, is whether all this stuff in those two links....was it presented to the grand jury also? AND, were any of the counter arguments also vetted as thoroughly and completely presented? There is no defence on a grand jury....just a prosecutor. There simply isn't anybody else to provide "the other side" of the story. It is assumed the prosecutor actually wants to get the indictment. It is very rare for a prosecutor not to get the indictment. OK, so what is your issue with the outcome? If the outcome was influenced by very questionable witnesses like this, witnesses who would have never stood up in court, then there should have been court proceedings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #1170 August 11, 2015 Welcome to the second annual Ferguson riots! Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #1171 August 11, 2015 AnvilbrotherWelcome to the second annual Ferguson riots! Think anyone will have a cross lighting to mark the date as well ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #1172 August 11, 2015 Amazon***Welcome to the second annual Ferguson riots! Think anyone will have a cross lighting to mark the date as well ?? No...but I heard they had a pig roastNever was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #1173 August 11, 2015 Coreeece******Welcome to the second annual Ferguson riots! Think anyone will have a cross lighting to mark the date as well ?? No...but I heard they had a pig roast That is for Saturday Afternoon...... but once the sun sets... they will break out the satin sheets... its a tradition for some folk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #1174 August 11, 2015 Amazon*********Welcome to the second annual Ferguson riots! Think anyone will have a cross lighting to mark the date as well ?? No...but I heard they had a pig roast That is for Saturday Afternoon...... but once the sun sets... they will break out the satin sheets... its a tradition for some folk. Let me get this straight; you think what happened last weekend is okay.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #1175 August 11, 2015 airdvr************Welcome to the second annual Ferguson riots! Think anyone will have a cross lighting to mark the date as well ?? No...but I heard they had a pig roast That is for Saturday Afternoon...... but once the sun sets... they will break out the satin sheets... its a tradition for some folk. Let me get this straight; you think what happened last weekend is okay. Perhaps a peek at the thread title will hand you a clue.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites