skycop 0 #401 January 27, 2015 It's interesting, Very little surplus equipment was used in Ferguson, yet the media claimed there was. Here is an example of expanded capability for pennies on the dollar, it's not free, but the cost is very minimal. This vehicle shows up in Ferguson it's a tank, here it's being used as most departments envisioned. It looks like a M1025, the same one we have (ours is an A2 model). It is not armored, ours has a chain saw, portable roll-up stretcher, water proof portable lights, and a small hand held Honda generator. All this was surplus and cost us the time and gas to go get it. This is the 1033 program, an excellent value to save local tax dollars and improve capability. I doubt you'll see this over and over on the national 24-hour news cycle, it's too routine and won't sell ad space or divide people. http://longisland.news12.com/multimedia/humvee-program-utilized-as-liers-dig-out-1.9863624 "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #402 January 28, 2015 What are your feelings on SWAT teams raiding poker games?cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #403 January 28, 2015 I have already discussed that ad-nauseam in another thread, that has nothing to do with the 1033 program. Mission creep is a supervision issue, I've already said this but it's worth repeating. I raided a poker game that involved prostitutes and selling cocaine. We didn't use the SWAT team, it didn't reach the threshold using our threat matrix. Most teams use a threat matrix to decide if a tactical entry is warranted, if they don't they should. Without seeing the intel on the game you are talking about, I can't (won't) give you an answer. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #404 January 28, 2015 skycopI have already discussed that ad-nauseam in another thread, that has nothing to do with the 1033 program. Mission creep is a supervision issue, I've already said this but it's worth repeating. I raided a poker game that involved prostitutes and selling cocaine. We didn't use the SWAT team, it didn't reach the threshold using our threat matrix. Most teams use a threat matrix to decide if a tactical entry is warranted, if they don't they should. Without seeing the intel on the game you are talking about, I can't (won't) give you an answer. I just meant in a general sense. I'm glad you didn't go SWAT on your raid, by the way. I'm sad you guys bothered raiding in the first place, though, seeing as gambling, recreational drugs and prostitution are things I don't feel the government need to tell people they can't do but that's a different matter altogether.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites