Bush Was Right

[rushmc 23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDpcbRadvNI

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

Sure!

“This broadly representative unity government offers a new opportunity for progress in Iraq. The new government reflects Iraq’s diversity and opens a new chapter in that country’s history”; George W. Bush., May 20, 2006. The leader of that new government was Nouri al-Maliki.

That worked out REALLY well.

And if "Bush Was Right" in 2006, why did he ignore his own warning in 2008?

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

an agreement Obama did not want and rejected all attempts

He now has what he asked for

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

How about YOU explain why Bush ignored his own warning, since you are convinced that his warning was right. And explain how he was "right" about Maliki.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

Obama did not want the agreement
He owns this

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

Obama did not want the agreement
He owns this

Only in the mind of someone with acute ODS.

If Bush was right, why did he ignore his own warning and do exactly what he warned against? Did he have a "hold my beer and watch this" moment.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDpcbRadvNI

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

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Obama did not want the agreement

Huh? What agreement? If you mean the SOFA, then I think quite the opposite is true.

- Dan G

[Darius11 12]

what makes terrorists is giving people motivation to hate us.

Usually killing a million people for a mistake will make more terrorists. That's not rocket science.

You take out an evil dude who you used to support who ruled with an iron fist, it will leave a power vacuum again should not be a surprise.

So Bush was wrong he was wrong when he said the word Iraq, and the dumb fucks who supported that war should take some responsibility for what they helped start.

This is a democracy so what you support matters.


As for them bush his people and the puppet masters they got what they wanted. I don't think they ever thought about peace or a democracy. They thought what they always think $$$$$$$

Remember it wasn't long ago when they couldn't even explain what wining was or meant in Iraq. There was no plan! it was murder and grand theft.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[rushmc 23]

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/10/21/how_the_obama_administration_bungled_the_iraq_withdrawal_negotiations

Obama wanted out
He got what he wanted

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Read to the end

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UPDATE: This article was amended after a White House official called in to say that it was not the "White House" that was pushing for an extension of U.S. troops.

"The White House has always seen the president's pledge to get all troops out of Iraq as a core commitment, period," the White House official said

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

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"The White House has always seen the president's pledge to get all troops out of Iraq as a core commitment, period," the White House official said

So he did want the agreement. Which is it?

- Dan G

[turtlespeed 220]

what makes terrorists is giving people motivation to hate us.

--Who is "Us"?

--Why is the rest of the world that is getting terrorized?

--Is it not REALLY about their extremist religious views?

Usually killing a million people for a mistake will make more terrorists. That's not rocket science.

--What mistake are you referring to?

You take out an evil dude who you used to support who ruled with an iron fist, it will leave a power vacuum again should not be a surprise.

-- Ruled with an Iron Fist = Killing upwards of 500 THOUSAND people.

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Other estimates as to the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam's regime vary from roughly a quarter to half a million, including 50,000 to 182,000 Kurds and 25,000 to 280,000 killed during the repression of the 1991 rebellion.

So Bush was wrong he was wrong when he said the word Iraq, and the dumb fucks who supported that war should take some responsibility for what they helped start.

--This I agree with.
-- Lets take a gander, shall we, of whom exactly voted for the war in Iraq.

This is a democracy so what you support matters.

--No. It has some likenesses to a Democracy, but no. Democratic Republic is closer.


As for them bush his people and the puppet masters they got what they wanted. I don't think they ever thought about peace or a democracy. They thought what they always think $$$$$$$

--Just as much as Obama doesn't really give a shit about the publics health care, just how his buddies can line their pockets. Same song, different verse.

Remember it wasn't long ago when they couldn't even explain what wining was or meant in Iraq. There was no plan! it was murder and grand theft.

--Meh - Stealing power from a murderer. I'm not all that upset about.
--That we were given a bad rap for doing the right thing . . . not so pleasant.
--A lot of people are suffering for what Saddam did, all over the world. It should be that that suffering should be diminishing now. Why won't people let that happen? Why is it so important to be a terrorist now?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,027]

All you are doing is showing that Bush was an idiot who said one thing and did the exact opposite. Obama had nothing to do with the SOFA. It was signed by BUSH in 2008.

Bush created the mess in the first place (under false pretenses too). Bush appointed Bremer who further fucked things up. al-Maliki was Bush's guy.

You should quit digging yourself deeper in the hole.

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[JohnnyMarko 1]

I still think you and Kallend would make such a cute couple....

QUAAAAAAAAADE!!!! QUAAAADE!!! QUADE!!!

He broke an SC rule. You can't post links without giving some context!!!!

[grimmie 186]

Bush, Rummy, Condy and Dick should be in jail.

It's odd how the GOP is all wound up about Benghazi but don't whisper a peep about a war based on lies that killed thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

Bush was so right, the GOP loves having him around at election times.

Oh, wait...never mind...

[cvfd1399 0]

What about the intelligence community that gave him all that info? You think the FBI, CIA, delta, probably dev group should be in jail too?

[rushmc 23]

cvfd1399

What about the intelligence community that gave him all that info? You think the FBI, CIA, delta, probably dev group should be in jail too?

they will NEVER give up the Bush lied bs

Even though before he even became a canidate, the clintons, kerry and many other said what Bush was saying

Their reality has no basis in fact

but if they say it enough times they can get the school text books to rewrite history for them

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

cvfd1399

What about the intelligence community that gave him all that info? You think the FBI, CIA, delta, probably dev group should be in jail too?

Cheney ran his own intelligence op called the Office of Special Plans. It undercut the CIA. Do try to keep up.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[grimmie 186]

cvfd1399

What about the intelligence community that gave him all that info? You think the FBI, CIA, delta, probably dev group should be in jail too?

Hans Blix said they couldn't find anything.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Who cares what some foreigner says.

Only Americans could possibly know what is really going on

[cvfd1399 0]

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Do try to keep up

Why don't you treat me with respect instead of talking to me like I am your child.....

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

***What about the intelligence community that gave him all that info? You think the FBI, CIA, delta, probably dev group should be in jail too?

they will NEVER give up the Bush lied bs

Even though before he even became a canidate, the clintons, kerry and many other said what Bush was saying

Their reality has no basis in fact

but if they say it enough times they can get the school text books to rewrite history for them

I don't think Bush lied.

I do think that Bush and Co. made it very clear what intelligence should be brought forward and what intelligence should be buried.

I think the intelligence agencies were used to drum up justification for a fait accompli.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

******What about the intelligence community that gave him all that info? You think the FBI, CIA, delta, probably dev group should be in jail too?

they will NEVER give up the Bush lied bs

Even though before he even became a canidate, the clintons, kerry and many other said what Bush was saying

Their reality has no basis in fact

but if they say it enough times they can get the school text books to rewrite history for them

I don't think Bush lied.

I do think that Bush and Co. made it very clear what intelligence should be brought forward and what intelligence should be buried.

I think the intelligence agencies were used to drum up justification for a fait accompli. Ya. This is other made up story

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

*********What about the intelligence community that gave him all that info? You think the FBI, CIA, delta, probably dev group should be in jail too?

they will NEVER give up the Bush lied bs

Even though before he even became a canidate, the clintons, kerry and many other said what Bush was saying

Their reality has no basis in fact

but if they say it enough times they can get the school text books to rewrite history for them

I don't think Bush lied.

I do think that Bush and Co. made it very clear what intelligence should be brought forward and what intelligence should be buried.

I think the intelligence agencies were used to drum up justification for a fait accompli. Ya. This is other made up story

Indeed, the yellow cake, mushroom cloud, we know where the chemical weapons are....it was indeed all a made up story.

Then you went in and inadvertently caused the rise of ISIS..


Team America, Fuck Yeah....