Stumpy 284 #76 September 17, 2014 blue_bert one thing I wouldn't do is believe what you read in the media. Thats true, as usual, on both sides. There is an awful lot of utter bollocks coming out of the mouths of the yes campaign.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #77 September 17, 2014 ryoder *** Scotland was also unable to defend itself from France. How embarrassing!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #78 September 17, 2014 kallend P.J. O'Rourke's take on it: www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/13/up-to-a-point-a-free-scotland-would-be-a-hilarious-disaster.html Classic.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #79 September 17, 2014 Stumpy *** one thing I wouldn't do is believe what you read in the media. Thats true, as usual, on both sides. There is an awful lot of utter bollocks coming out of the mouths of the yes campaign. Not to mention the vitriolic campaign of intimidation against NO supporters. If it is a NO vote my prediction (and I hope I'm wrong) is that we'll see rioting in some parts of Scotland by YES voters whipped up into a Braveheart Nationalist frenzy.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #80 September 18, 2014 hmm.. so I don't understand one thing - if Scotland will be so much worse and the UK will be so much better without them then why are you against the Scotland leaving the UK and getting independence? /Not that I care one way or the other Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #81 September 18, 2014 michalm21 hmm.. so I don't understand one thing - if Scotland will be so much worse and the UK will be so much better without them then why are you against the Scotland leaving the UK and getting independence? The UK will cease to exist. Strange definition of "better" you have.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #82 September 18, 2014 michalm21 hmm.. so I don't understand one thing - if Scotland will be so much worse and the UK will be so much better without them then why are you against the Scotland leaving the UK and getting independence? /Not that I care one way or the other I don't think that the UK will be better off without Scotland, I think it will be a big bite of the shit sandwich all round. (The UK will continue to exist but will comprise of England, Wales and Northern Ireland).When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #83 September 18, 2014 Do I? Skyrad understood and answered my question (addressed to him) quite well, unlike you trolling for meanings. His posts made impression that the rest of UK (after Scotland leaves) would be much better off since Scotland is taking more money than it contributes. So not sure why he would be against them leaving if it meant less of his tax money being wasted on the Scots. Hence my question. Also, I wasn't aware the United Kingdom would just magically disappear - Wales, N.Ireland and England would not be united any more or something? Okay, so I will call them PUKoK, better? (Partially United Kingdom of Kallend) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #84 September 18, 2014 From a political standpoint (and for someone who does not live there) this would an interesting thing to happen. Quite fascinating, to be honest, to watch a country separate from the UK. But it's easy to just watch from the sidelines, not having any vested interest ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #85 September 18, 2014 Skyrad (The UK will continue to exist but will comprise of England, Wales and Northern Ireland) But only England and Scotland are kingdoms. Wales is a principality and N. Ireland is something else. Take one kingdom away and unite England with itself?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #86 September 18, 2014 kallend *** (The UK will continue to exist but will comprise of England, Wales and Northern Ireland) But only England and Scotland are kingdoms. Wales is a principality and N. Ireland is something else. Take one kingdom away and unite England with itself? Is the meaning of "UK" a union of kingdoms? Or does it mean a kingdom that is a union of several different political entities, two of which happened to be kingdoms? As an outsider I've Never given it much thought but just assumed it meant England, Wales, Scotland, etc., etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #87 September 18, 2014 kallend But only England and Scotland are kingdoms. Wales is a principality and N. Ireland is something else. Take one kingdom away and unite England with itself? So it's the United Kingdoms? not United Kingdom? Interesting. Hard to argue since you were there at the time. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #88 September 18, 2014 The first Liz would have seceded Salmond's head. At last back in the day the English understood that they pissed the provinces off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #89 September 18, 2014 CNN mathematics.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #90 September 18, 2014 Exit polls suggest the NOES have it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #91 September 18, 2014 kallend CNN mathematics. I think this is the same outfit that said an airliner with empty fuel tanks would have trouble maintaining altitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #92 September 19, 2014 Hi John, Quote Exit polls suggest the NOES have it. One has to wonder how many there really are: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/scottish-independence-blog/live/2014/sep/18/scottish-referendum-results-live-coverage-of-the-independence-vote "In Glasgow there have been allegations of electoral fraud, Sky News reports. There were claims that, in 10 cases, people tried to represent someone who had already voted. The police have been called in and some ballot papers are being removed from ballot boxes so they can be investigated." JerryBaumchen PS) Did former mayor Richard Daley have any Scottish blood in him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #93 September 19, 2014 kallend Exit polls suggest the NOES have it. I'm scanning the results as they are available on BBC here in Canada. I must say that the studio guests representing opposing viewpoints maintaining dignified civility is such a refreshing change from what I typically see on CNN or Fox covering domestic political battles to the south of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #94 September 19, 2014 aphid *** Exit polls suggest the NOES have it. I'm scanning the results as they are available on BBC here in Canada. I must say that the studio guests representing opposing viewpoints maintaining dignified civility is such a refreshing change from what I typically see on CNN or Fox covering domestic political battles to the south of us. Hey, when states tried to separate from the USA, a bloody civil war ensued with some 750,000 killed. This is very civilized by comparison.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #95 September 19, 2014 kallend ****** Exit polls suggest the NOES have it. I'm scanning the results as they are available on BBC here in Canada. I must say that the studio guests representing opposing viewpoints maintaining dignified civility is such a refreshing change from what I typically see on CNN or Fox covering domestic political battles to the south of us. Hey, when states tried to separate from the USA, a bloody civil war ensued with some 750,000 killed. This is very civilized by comparison. Yeah . . . well the reasons are better though.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #96 September 19, 2014 Hi John, Quote I'm scanning the results Looks like it failed: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/19/world/europe/scotland-independence-vote.html?_r=0 JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 70 #97 September 19, 2014 Yes - the independence vote failed but the achievement of an 86% voter turnout shows the level of passion on both sides of the campaign.Atheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #98 September 19, 2014 JerryBaumchen Hi John, Quote I'm scanning the results Looks like it failed: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/19/world/europe/scotland-independence-vote.html?_r=0 JerryBaumchen 55% to 45%. Common sense triumphed over emotion - very Scottish.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #99 September 19, 2014 rifleman Yes - the independence vote failed but the achievement of an 86% voter turnout shows the level of passion on both sides of the campaign. Looking at the results by region, it seems that the farther you got from Glasgow the more the "Noes" dominated, The islands in particular voted nearly 2:1 against independence. The Highland Scots are an independent bunch but it seems they trust London more than they trust the Lowlanders. Even Salmond's own region voted "No".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #100 September 19, 2014 And somewhere... in the four corners of the UK, William Wallace's body parts are spinning in their graves... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
