wmw999 2,509 #1 September 18, 2014 Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. The problem is that being right is a moment, and not a state, unless the conditions with which you bound your rightness are tight and well defined. And if that's there case, well, then there isn't much applicability to the real world, is there? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #2 September 18, 2014 wmw999Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. The problem is that being right is a moment, and not a state, unless the conditions with which you bound your rightness are tight and well defined. And if that's there case, well, then there isn't much applicability to the real world, is there? Wendy P. You are momentarily right. Wait, did you mean being ON the right? Or just right in general?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #3 September 18, 2014 So you're saying maths/physics/etc. don't have real world applications?Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,509 #4 September 18, 2014 They are bounded, and the boundaries are well-described. Sometimes implied, but still there. 2+2=4 only in a base 5 or greater numerical system. At least that's my understanding, but it's been college since I did much studying of either. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #5 September 18, 2014 2+2 = 10 in base 4 2 + 2 = 11 in base 3. See - I was right. I agree with you. I am one of those a-holes who has some strange need to be right all the time. I am certainly compensating for something. For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 September 18, 2014 DiverMike 2+2 = 10 in base 4 2 + 2 = 11 in base 3. See - I was right. I agree with you. I am one of those a-holes who has some strange need to be right all the time. I am certainly compensating for something. I try to be right to compensate for other people's wrongness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 September 18, 2014 wmw999Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #8 September 18, 2014 rehmwa***Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong A lot of "winning" on the internet is attacking what other people write and defending what you have written, and to hell with communicating ideas. The argument can't get pedantic fast enough for some people... "Ugh... when is this guy going to trip up and use the term 'most' instead of 'many' so I can stop hearing about his thoughts and ideas and go find a snopes article that says 49% and shove it in his stupid wrong eye cavities..." Combine that with people who take attempts by others to temper or qualify a statement they make as a comprehensive affront to their very existence and there's no beginning to what you can accomplish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,098 #9 September 18, 2014 rehmwa***Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that Many years ago YOU diagnosed accurately my motivation in posting here. However, I think you have forgotten what it is.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #10 September 19, 2014 kallend******Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that Many years ago YOU diagnosed accurately my motivation in posting here. However, I think you have forgotten what it is. Mental Masturbation?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #11 September 19, 2014 kallend ******Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that Many years ago YOU diagnosed accurately my motivation in posting here. However, I think you have forgotten what it is. nope, not one bit (that one took longer to figure out, really than it should.) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #12 September 19, 2014 turtlespeed*********Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that Many years ago YOU diagnosed accurately my motivation in posting here. However, I think you have forgotten what it is. Mental Masturbation? Mental? nooooo ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #13 September 19, 2014 rehmwa************Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that Many years ago YOU diagnosed accurately my motivation in posting here. However, I think you have forgotten what it is. Mental Masturbation? Mental? nooooo So he gets THAT exited about the moderators being his personal defense on the playground? Or is it that he gets that excited trying to be the playground bully?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,098 #14 September 19, 2014 turtlespeed***************Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that Many years ago YOU diagnosed accurately my motivation in posting here. However, I think you have forgotten what it is. Mental Masturbation? Mental? nooooo So he gets THAT exited about the moderators being his personal defense on the playground? Or is it that he gets that excited trying to be the playground bully? Bill R. got it, and you are clueless.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #15 September 19, 2014 kallend ******************Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that Many years ago YOU diagnosed accurately my motivation in posting here. However, I think you have forgotten what it is. Mental Masturbation? Mental? nooooo So he gets THAT exited about the moderators being his personal defense on the playground? Or is it that he gets that excited trying to be the playground bully? Bill R. got it, and you are clueless. Hmm . . . interesting how one rule works for some and works differently for others. But when you have mods that agree with you and have your back - rules don't actually really matter do they?***A one liner like "I disagree; Bush never said that" is fine. A series of one liners along the lines of: "You certinally are a child of the 60's" "Blah blah blah" "Projection (yet again) on your part" "Back to the dictionary......... me boyo.... please try harder" will result in a ban. Go figure. Nice having protection isn't it?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,098 #16 September 19, 2014 turtlespeed *********************Some people (me included sometimes) seem to think that proving themselves right answers something, or proves something about their opinions. some like being right, or at least winning. right or wrong doesn't matter much and some just take delight in others being wrong, or at least ridiculed others on topics that have no right or wrong some just like to argue others might just be assholes and nothing more or less than that some just like a little bacon and chocolate and don't sweat the details past that Many years ago YOU diagnosed accurately my motivation in posting here. However, I think you have forgotten what it is. Mental Masturbation? Mental? nooooo So he gets THAT exited about the moderators being his personal defense on the playground? Or is it that he gets that excited trying to be the playground bully? Bill R. got it, and you are clueless. Hmm . . . interesting how one rule works for some and works differently for others. But when you have mods that agree with you and have your back - rules don't actually really matter do they? Quote A one liner like "I disagree; Bush never said that" is fine. A series of one liners along the lines of: "You certinally are a child of the 60's" "Blah blah blah" "Projection (yet again) on your part" "Back to the dictionary......... me boyo.... please try harder" will result in a ban. Go figure. Nice having protection isn't it? I refer you to your own post #10 of this thread. How many lines does it take to say that you are wrong and Rehmwa is correct? You should take your own advice (about people in glass houses) from another thread.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #17 September 19, 2014 wmw999They are bounded, and the boundaries are well-described. Sometimes implied, but still there. 2+2=4 only in a base 5 or greater numerical system. At least that's my understanding, but it's been college since I did much studying of either. Wendy P. Thats just ambiguity of misleading and/or incorrect notation. The mathematical abstraction behind the symbols is still the same. It doesn't matter if you say 1+1=2 or 1+1=10, the actual abstraction behind it is still the same.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,098 #18 September 19, 2014 Arvoitus***They are bounded, and the boundaries are well-described. Sometimes implied, but still there. 2+2=4 only in a base 5 or greater numerical system. At least that's my understanding, but it's been college since I did much studying of either. Wendy P. Thats just ambiguity of misleading and/or incorrect notation. The mathematical abstraction behind the symbols is still the same. It doesn't matter if you say 1+1=2 or 1+1=10, the actual abstraction behind it is still the same. Have you been reading Russell and Whitehead... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #19 September 19, 2014 I have made plenty of mistakes. I've been wrong many, many times. I learn more from being wrong than I do from being right. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #20 September 19, 2014 lawrocket I have made plenty of mistakes. I've been wrong many, many times. I learn more from being wrong than I do from being right. That's why you are so smart, you are wrong more than you are right Just kidding, I fully agree with you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #21 September 19, 2014 wmw999They are bounded, and the boundaries are well-described. Sometimes implied, but still there. 2+2=4 only in a base 5 or greater numerical system. At least that's my understanding, but it's been college since I did much studying of either. Wendy P. There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary, and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,098 #22 September 19, 2014 lawrocketI have made plenty of mistakes. I've been wrong many, many times. I learn more from being wrong than I do from being right. You just chose the wrong profession.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites