billvon 2,990 #376 October 20, 2014 Don, CVFD, Kallend - enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #377 October 20, 2014 cvfd1399You just keep filling that empty hole inside yourself that requires you to be a keyboard commander and say things online that you would never have the balls to say to someone in person. Cvfd1399, meet mirror. Mirror, meet cvfd1399.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #378 October 20, 2014 Everyone - enough with the one liners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 362 #379 October 20, 2014 billvonDon, CVFD, Kallend - enough.Fair enough. Horse is almost dead anyway, it needs a break. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #380 October 20, 2014 PA's deleted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #381 October 23, 2014 This is interesting: Meanwhile, another study published yesterday in The Lancet suggests that most people from West Africa especially Nigerians and Senegalese may be immune to the deadly Ebola virus, ravaging the region. Story: http://allafrica.com/stories/201410231094.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #382 October 23, 2014 you realize you listed a number of banana republics and one first world nation? Do you really want us to follow Haiti's example on ANYTHING? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #383 October 24, 2014 Senator Cruz is a complete moron. www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/oct/23/ted-cruz/cruz-obamas-surgeon-general-pick-not-health-profes/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #384 October 24, 2014 I think that every time I hear "assault weapon". Generally the person using that term has no idea what one is. Fatal tiger attacks on humans in the U.S.: approx. 1.5 reported per annum. Fatal attacks on humans in U.S. in which a legally registered machine gun was used : 2 reported cases total since 1934. It would appear a ban on tigers would better serve the populace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #385 October 24, 2014 Now we've got Ebola in NYC... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #386 October 24, 2014 AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #387 October 24, 2014 kallend Senator Cruz is a complete moron. www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/oct/23/ted-cruz/cruz-obamas-surgeon-general-pick-not-health-profes/ And at least one GOP rep isn't even aware of the issue: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/jason-chaffetz-surgeon-general_n_6036544.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #388 October 24, 2014 Every one who's worried about this should immediately donate $10.00 or more to some charity fighting it at it's source. That'll do more good than any amount of being pissed or scared. Someone wrote that in to the local paper. It's brilliant. Not much more expensive than the daily mocha latte. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #389 October 24, 2014 kelpdiveryou realize you listed a number of banana republics and one first world nation? Do you really want us to follow Haiti's example on ANYTHING? To me as a layperson, the banana republics' bans seems to make some sense: they know they don't have first-class, or even second-class, medical infrastructures in their countries, so they've probably concluded that, patient-for-patient, someone with Ebola entering their country probably poses more of a public health hazard than the same person entering a First-World country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #390 October 24, 2014 BillyVance Now we've got Ebola in NYC... I've been to NY. There are far worse things already there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #391 October 24, 2014 wmw999Every one who's worried about this should immediately donate $10.00 or more to some charity fighting it at it's source. That'll do more good than any amount of being pissed or scared. Someone wrote that in to the local paper. It's brilliant. Love it - Just like football teams wearing pink....I'd rather each of those players just put their money to the cause, rather than just wear those pink socks that the owner bought for them... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #392 October 24, 2014 >Every one who's worried about this should immediately donate $10.00 or >more to some charity fighting it at it's source. Agreed, and I highly recommend Doctors without Borders; in many ways they have been the front line in this fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #393 October 24, 2014 normiss Fatal tiger attacks on humans in the U.S.: approx. 1.5 reported per annum. The tigers are getting that much meat? There was a well publicized event at the San Francisco zoo a few years ago when a few drunk idiots harassed the tigers and one demonstrated that the walls weren't tall enough, killed one and mauled the other two. Sadly, it was killed, and it killed the least offending of the 3. The other two got a pretty nice payout, but proceeded to litter the news with felony arrests every 12 months. In any event, that's the only fatality I knew about in the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #394 October 24, 2014 A quick search found a source that said there were 7 fatalities and 60 attacks over a 3 year period they examined over the late '90s. The key is that there are a surprisingly large number of tigers in the US held in private collections or kept as pets. Anything to do with them (both in terms of attacks on people or substandard living conditions) would attract far less press attention than with zoo animals.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #395 October 24, 2014 BillyVance Now we've got Ebola in NYC... sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/run-around-screaming-we-re-all-going-to-die.png... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #396 October 25, 2014 kallend ***Now we've got Ebola in NYC... sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/run-around-screaming-we-re-all-going-to-die.png That's beautiful professor. Sounds a lot like what the idiots are doing. How about the perspective of someone who survived it? http://www.vox.com/2014/10/23/7055969/new-york-ebola-survivor-perfect-reaction And both the nurses from Texas are now better. Phang has been released from the hospital (met the President), Vinson is still in the hospital. I heard on NPR tonight that Vinson has hired a lawyer. Perhaps because she was vilified by the spokesman from the CDC, who criticized her for travelling, and later had to retract that and apologize after it was revealed that she had consulted the CDC before the travel and was told it was ok. I don't know if she expects to have to deal with the aftermath of the panic (airplane disinfection, school closings ect) or plans on a "defamation" lawsuit."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #397 October 25, 2014 Here are a couple of interesting links for anyone who has an interest in the virus itself. Kinda fascinating (to me, at least.) http://www.msdsonline.com/resources/msds-resources/free-safety-data-sheet-index/ebola-virus.aspx This article has been out since 2010 so some info may be outdated. Also, it talks about several variations of the virus so maybe not all info relates to all types. Standouts: "INFECTIOUS DOSE: 1 – 10 aerosolized organisms are sufficient to cause infection in humans." "SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: The virus can survive in liquid or dried material for a number of days. Infectivity is found to be stable at room temperature or at 4°C for several days, and indefinitely stable at -70°C. Infectivity can be preserved by lyophilisation (freeze-drying)." "PRIMARY HAZARDS: Accidental parenteral inoculation, respiratory exposure to infectious aerosols and droplets, and/or direct contact with broken skin or mucous membranes." http://www.buffalo.edu/news/releases/2010/06/11494.html Looks like it's been around a while. ..maybe even since the advent of mammals, and may have played some role in mammalian evolution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FB1609 0 #398 October 25, 2014 Damn, I live in Dominican Rep...seems to be the only Caribbean island with no ban/plan upstaged by our island sharing Haiti Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #399 October 25, 2014 You are far more likely to be shot dead by a nutcase than to catch ebola. Latest nutcase incident: www.nbcnews.com/storyline/marysville-school-shooting/two-dead-washington-high-school-shooting-n233371... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #400 October 25, 2014 IagoYou are correct. I've been to Haiti. If ebola got a foothold there it would be cholera all over again. However, assuming we DON'T have to do something similar simply because we have first world facilities is also foolhardy. So the gun lobby tells us that "assault weapons" are so rarely used in crimes that we shouldn't worry about them. More Americans have been killed with "assault weapons" in the last 48 hours than have died of ebola in the USA in the last 2 months. By NRA logic, ebola is nothing to worry about.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
