21 US cities restrict sharing food with homeless people

[kallend 2,027]

jakee

******OMG! 21 out of thousands upon thousands of cities? Really?

well, if you are eurocentric, perhaps one assumes many countries only have about 20 or 30 cities total?

The main difference is that we distinguish cities from towns and (with a few exceptions) expect a city to have at least a few hundred thousand inhabitants - whereas in the US any commune that's grown big enough to elect at least 1 local official is called a city.

It used to be that in the UK a royal charter was required to be a city, and this was generally limited to places with a cathedral and a bishop (I can only think of 2 exceptions).

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[jakee 1,499]

kallend

It used to be that in the UK a royal charter was required to be a city, and this was generally limited to places with a cathedral and a bishop (I can only think of 2 exceptions).

Used to be. Not including NI there are 21 UK cities without cathedrals. City status still isn't handed out purely on the basis of population (eg bournemouth is still a town) but tiny cities like Wells and Truro will remain anomolies.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[tkhayes 348]

yes Al jezeera....really. One of the more reliable and independent news sources available today. Given the structure of media INSIDE the USA, looking to outside might actually get you an objective view.

But you do not need to look only to Al Jezeera, CBC, BBC, ARD, there is lots of news out there, all reporting pretty similar stuff.

[tkhayes 348]

And this is where it starts to derail.....and no one in particular to blame. Instead of addressing the issue- which is making it more difficult to feed homeless people, we begin to talk about what the definition of a city versus a town is.

bravo everyone.

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tkhayes

And this is where it starts to derail.....and no one in particular to blame. Instead of addressing the issue- which is making it more difficult to feed homeless people, we begin to talk about what the definition of a city versus a town is.

bravo everyone.

it's difficult to take a fluff piece seriously when you could take any law and claim (in a roundabout way) that it 'restricts' food sharing with the homeless

here's some - all you need is an ax to grind against whoever passed it and lazy voters won't look any farther

law - that identifies 20 specific locations in a town to drop off food bundles for distribution to various food and charity location - restricts food sharing

law - against littering - could restrict food sharing

law - to build affordable housing and rejuvenate a neighborhood - argue it tries to force the poor into a single neighborhood

Questions to ask:
Who are they attacking?
Do they have a partisan or personal axe to grind?
What is their history of reporting?
Do they twist the truth a lot?
Are you hearing what you want to hear?
Does it fit a stupid overused stereotype?

these questions might lead to a skeptical view of any article

you want an discussion on how to feed the hungry, or, better yet, how to enable the hungry to feed themselves

stop bitching and go do something direct - hire employees or buy someone a sandwich. encourage others to volunteer to do the same

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[Rick 67]

This has been a big issue in Orlando. article here.


the City says "A spokesperson for the city of Orlando said that the ordinance had its origins in complaints from residents and business owners about trash left after the food distribution, public urination and concerns about crime."
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"Food Not Bombs could obtain two permits a year for each of the 42 parks in downtown Orlando, for a total of 84 large group feedings a year. The ordinance does not put restrictions on group feedings outside of the downtown area"

the food not bombs group says ""The idea that every week we have to move to a different part of the city and that people have to find us just doesn't make any sense"

I can understand the complaints from the businesses in the area. The issue gets worse in the winter as we see an increase in the homeless population.

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

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jakee

***It used to be that in the UK a royal charter was required to be a city, and this was generally limited to places with a cathedral and a bishop (I can only think of 2 exceptions).

Used to be. Not including NI there are 21 UK cities without cathedrals. City status still isn't handed out purely on the basis of population (eg bournemouth is still a town) but tiny cities like Wells and Truro will remain anomolies.

Wells and Truro have cathedrals, IIRC.

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tkhayes

Instead of addressing the issue- which is making it more difficult to feed homeless people-

Things are not necessarily "the issue" or even "an issue" just because someone puts them in the title of a news articles, the title of a speakers corner thread, or the title of a proposed piece of legislation.

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kallend

******It used to be that in the UK a royal charter was required to be a city, and this was generally limited to places with a cathedral and a bishop (I can only think of 2 exceptions).

Used to be. Not including NI there are 21 UK cities without cathedrals. City status still isn't handed out purely on the basis of population (eg bournemouth is still a town) but tiny cities like Wells and Truro will remain anomolies.

Wells and Truro have cathedrals, IIRC.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

*********It used to be that in the UK a royal charter was required to be a city, and this was generally limited to places with a cathedral and a bishop (I can only think of 2 exceptions).

Used to be. Not including NI there are 21 UK cities without cathedrals. City status still isn't handed out purely on the basis of population (eg bournemouth is still a town) but tiny cities like Wells and Truro will remain anomolies.

Wells and Truro have cathedrals, IIRC.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

So according to the original definition in the English language, they aren't anomalies.

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kallend

************It used to be that in the UK a royal charter was required to be a city, and this was generally limited to places with a cathedral and a bishop (I can only think of 2 exceptions).

Used to be. Not including NI there are 21 UK cities without cathedrals. City status still isn't handed out purely on the basis of population (eg bournemouth is still a town) but tiny cities like Wells and Truro will remain anomolies.

Wells and Truro have cathedrals, IIRC.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

So according to the original definition in the English language, they aren't anomalies.

Ok, substitute oddity or unusual. Point being that most cities and any new ones are all a lot bigger.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?