kallend 2,027
I'd see another doctor. It'd be a sad state of affairs if 97% of doctors would insist that castration is the only way to treat a hydrocele. It would probably lead to a lot of distrust of the medical profession.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
DanG 1
Nice false equivalency. Well played.
- Dan G
- Dan G
kallend 2,027
lawrocketI'd see another doctor. It'd be a sad state of affairs if 97% of doctors would insist that castration is the only way to treat a hydrocele. It would probably lead to a lot of distrust of the medical profession.
So you'd keep on asking for opinions until you heard one that agreed with your preconceptions. You'd need to ask about 23 doctors before you got one because it could be that 97% of MDs are better at diagnosing your actual medical condition than a lawyer.
Rather like the logic of a 3-year old - if you ask enough times you'll get what you want even if it's bad for you.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
billvon 2,991
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>Correct. And we seek to educate ourselves, and the doctors educate us, so that
>we can make our own decisions. So if a doctor told me, "you've got this problem.
>A hydrocele. I'll need to remove your testicle" I'd say, "okay. Is there anything else
>that can be done? Like aspirating it?" And if the doctor says, "it'll just come back.
>Why take the chance?" then I'll say, "because I like my nut." And if the doctor
>says, "I'm the expert and I know what's best, and it needs to come out" I'll say,
>"thanks for the advice. But I'm going to get a second opinion because I think
>there are less drastic ways to manage this."
Now imagine you went to 30 doctors and they all said "sorry, it's testicular cancer, and removing the cancerous testicle is your best chance of survival."
But then you found doctor 31 who said "cancer is all a conspiracy by the medical profession to bilk you out of your money. Sure, cancer might kill you, but you don't have cancer, or if you do it's natural, and even if it isn't totally natural it means your cells are growing, and growth is good. You can't take any action because THE SCIENCE ISN'T SETTLED! So just go home."
I suspect you'd go with the opinions of the first 30 doctors, even if doctor 31 was telling you exactly what you wanted to hear. (And even if he had a popular radio show and hated Al Gore.)
>we can make our own decisions. So if a doctor told me, "you've got this problem.
>A hydrocele. I'll need to remove your testicle" I'd say, "okay. Is there anything else
>that can be done? Like aspirating it?" And if the doctor says, "it'll just come back.
>Why take the chance?" then I'll say, "because I like my nut." And if the doctor
>says, "I'm the expert and I know what's best, and it needs to come out" I'll say,
>"thanks for the advice. But I'm going to get a second opinion because I think
>there are less drastic ways to manage this."
Now imagine you went to 30 doctors and they all said "sorry, it's testicular cancer, and removing the cancerous testicle is your best chance of survival."
But then you found doctor 31 who said "cancer is all a conspiracy by the medical profession to bilk you out of your money. Sure, cancer might kill you, but you don't have cancer, or if you do it's natural, and even if it isn't totally natural it means your cells are growing, and growth is good. You can't take any action because THE SCIENCE ISN'T SETTLED! So just go home."
I suspect you'd go with the opinions of the first 30 doctors, even if doctor 31 was telling you exactly what you wanted to hear. (And even if he had a popular radio show and hated Al Gore.)
kallend 2,027
billvon>Correct. And we seek to educate ourselves, and the doctors educate us, so that
>we can make our own decisions. So if a doctor told me, "you've got this problem.
>A hydrocele. I'll need to remove your testicle" I'd say, "okay. Is there anything else
>that can be done? Like aspirating it?" And if the doctor says, "it'll just come back.
>Why take the chance?" then I'll say, "because I like my nut." And if the doctor
>says, "I'm the expert and I know what's best, and it needs to come out" I'll say,
>"thanks for the advice. But I'm going to get a second opinion because I think
>there are less drastic ways to manage this."
Now imagine you went to 30 doctors and they all said "sorry, it's testicular cancer, and removing the cancerous testicle is your best chance of survival."
But then you found doctor 31 who said "cancer is all a conspiracy by the medical profession to bilk you out of your money. Sure, cancer might kill you, but you don't have cancer, or if you do it's natural, and even if it isn't totally natural it means your cells are growing, and growth is good. You can't take any action because THE SCIENCE ISN'T SETTLED! So just go home."
I suspect you'd go with the opinions of the first 30 doctors, even if doctor 31 was telling you exactly what you wanted to hear. (And even if he had a popular radio show and hated Al Gore.)
If 32 out of 33 riggers (97%) told him his rig is unsafe to jump, would he jump it anyway? I guess so, given his statements here.
We know of a few now dead or disabled people who used to post on DZ.COM who were told not to downsize by a bunch of experienced skydivers but found someone who said they'd be OK.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
cengland 0
Green groups hindering global warming fight with ‘alarmist’ warnings: UN scientists
Here, let's throw more fuel on the fire
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/11/03/green-groups-hindering-global-warming-fight-with-alarmist-warnings-un-scientists/
Here, let's throw more fuel on the fire
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/11/03/green-groups-hindering-global-warming-fight-with-alarmist-warnings-un-scientists/
rushmc 23
kallend***>Correct. And we seek to educate ourselves, and the doctors educate us, so that
>we can make our own decisions. So if a doctor told me, "you've got this problem.
>A hydrocele. I'll need to remove your testicle" I'd say, "okay. Is there anything else
>that can be done? Like aspirating it?" And if the doctor says, "it'll just come back.
>Why take the chance?" then I'll say, "because I like my nut." And if the doctor
>says, "I'm the expert and I know what's best, and it needs to come out" I'll say,
>"thanks for the advice. But I'm going to get a second opinion because I think
>there are less drastic ways to manage this."
Now imagine you went to 30 doctors and they all said "sorry, it's testicular cancer, and removing the cancerous testicle is your best chance of survival."
But then you found doctor 31 who said "cancer is all a conspiracy by the medical profession to bilk you out of your money. Sure, cancer might kill you, but you don't have cancer, or if you do it's natural, and even if it isn't totally natural it means your cells are growing, and growth is good. You can't take any action because THE SCIENCE ISN'T SETTLED! So just go home."
I suspect you'd go with the opinions of the first 30 doctors, even if doctor 31 was telling you exactly what you wanted to hear. (And even if he had a popular radio show and hated Al Gore.)
If 32 out of 33 riggers (97%) told him his rig is unsafe to jump, would he jump it anyway? I guess so, given his statements here.
We know of a few now dead or disabled people who used to post on DZ.COM who were told not to downsize by a bunch of experienced skydivers but found someone who said they'd be OK.
Not related because there is evidense that downsizing can kill you
Nothing similar exists in the AWG world
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
What would you say to someone who predicted weather two years in advance?
pick you own source
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&site=&source=hp&q=The+cooling+was+predicted+at+least+two+years+ago+by+Russian+scientist+Habibullo+Abdussamatov%2C&oq=The+cooling+was+predicted+at+least+two+years+ago+by+Russian+scientist+Habibullo+Abdussamatov%2C&gs_l=hp.3...2728.2728.0.4645.1.1.0.0.0.0.251.251.2-1.1.0....0...1c..58.hp..1.0.0.fpxHdt0hKik
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Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky and up into West Virginia are expected to have 167 percent of their average snowfall this winter, according to WeatherBell, whilst much of the surrounding South Easer States is the snowfall this year is expected to be up a third on the average level.
The phenomenon is blamed on a solar vortex, forcing cold temperatures down the eastern seaboard and into the South East of the country. Similar effects are being seen in Russia, parts of China and across central Asia including Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan, Uzbekistan and down into Afghanistan. Most of Europe, conversely, is seeing markedly higher temperatures, as is Alaska.
The cooling was predicted at least two years ago by Russian scientist Habibullo Abdussamatov, supervisor of the Astrometria project on the International Space Station and head of space research at the Pulkovo Observatory, St Petersburg. Abdussamatov has predicted that this year will mark the start of a downward trend into a mini ice age, with its nadir in 2055. The cold period would be the fifth mini ice-age to occur in a millennium, suggesting that the climate is following a well-worn natural pattern.
pick you own source
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&site=&source=hp&q=The+cooling+was+predicted+at+least+two+years+ago+by+Russian+scientist+Habibullo+Abdussamatov%2C&oq=The+cooling+was+predicted+at+least+two+years+ago+by+Russian+scientist+Habibullo+Abdussamatov%2C&gs_l=hp.3...2728.2728.0.4645.1.1.0.0.0.0.251.251.2-1.1.0....0...1c..58.hp..1.0.0.fpxHdt0hKik
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
http://iceagenow.info/2011/11/russian-scientists-predict-100-years-cooling/
For reference
For reference
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
billvon 2,991
>Not related because there is evidense that downsizing can kill you
>Nothing similar exists in the AWG world
There is far more evidence for the CO2-warming link than the canopy size-fatality rate link. Of course, if you have a political or personal reason to not believe either one, you won't. There's ample evidence for both right here in this forum.
>Nothing similar exists in the AWG world
There is far more evidence for the CO2-warming link than the canopy size-fatality rate link. Of course, if you have a political or personal reason to not believe either one, you won't. There's ample evidence for both right here in this forum.
Correct. And we seek to educate ourselves, and the doctors educate us, so that we can make our own decisions. So if a doctor told me, "you've got this problem. A hydrocele. I'll need to remove your testicle" I'd say, "okay. Is there anything else that can be done? Like aspirating it?" And if the doctor says, "it'll just come back. Why take the chance?" then I'll say, "because I like my nut." And if the doctor says, "I'm the expert and I know what's best, and it needs to come out" I'll say, "thanks for the advice. But I'm going to get a second opinion because I think there are less drastic ways to manage this."
Would you get your second opinion from a lawyer? Career politician?
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.