Federal civil rights charges unlikely against police officer in Ferguson shooting

[Andy9o8 2]

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Now, the problem starts when those who look like a thug get harassed because of how they look, not because of what they do, or have done.
That problem is compounded further when people of a specific race are seen as thugs, just because they belong to that race.
When that happens long enough, people get pissed off. Once people get really mad, logic and reasoning tends to go out the door. Add to that some mob mentality and you have got yourself a problem.

Ayup. Then there's that whole "history of slavery, Jim Crow laws, miscegenation crimes, restrictive covenants on deeds, and lynchings" thing. All of those things except slavery existed during my lifetime, and I'm only middle-aged. Anyone who fails to recognize the lasting effect of those things on group psychology is a fool. You know, it's a funny thing: the white people in the Deep South still have their institutional memory informed by the belligerencies of the War of Southern Insurrection, and yet in the same mental breath the rednecks throughout the country still fail to appreciate just how much the US's history of racism informs the institutional memory of American black people to this day. Sigh... I suppose it's all a matter of whose ox is getting gored.

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Except absolutely none of that applies in this case. The guy was a thug.

All those that are looting and rioting are thugs and criminals.

It's extremely likely initially the riots and looting were started by those not in the community but once started, locals joined in.

Sadly, all that has happened in Ferguson has just reenforced the reasoning for the police's initial actions and response.

If they really wanted change, they would have not only not joined in, but tried to stop those that did and failing that, recorded those that did so they could be prosecuted.

Make the police and the government troops look like fools for overreacting by NOT rioting, NOT looting.

"We're mad as hell, so we're going to destroy our own community?"

If one is mad at someone else, at least take it out on their stuff/place.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Except absolutely none of that applies in this case. The guy was a thug.
All those that are looting and rioting are thugs and criminals.

You grossly underestimate the group outrage throughout every segment of the American black population nation-wide today.

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Andy9o8

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Now, the problem starts when those who look like a thug get harassed because of how they look, not because of what they do, or have done.
That problem is compounded further when people of a specific race are seen as thugs, just because they belong to that race.
When that happens long enough, people get pissed off. Once people get really mad, logic and reasoning tends to go out the door. Add to that some mob mentality and you have got yourself a problem.

Ayup. Then there's that whole "history of slavery, Jim Crow laws, miscegenation crimes, restrictive covenants on deeds, and lynchings" thing. All of those things except slavery existed during my lifetime, and I'm only middle-aged. Anyone who fails to recognize the lasting effect of those things on group psychology is a fool. You know, it's a funny thing: the white people in the Deep South still have their institutional memory informed by the belligerencies of the War of Southern Insurrection, and yet in the same mental breath the rednecks throughout the country still fail to appreciate just how much the US's history of racism informs the institutional memory of American black people to this day. Sigh... I suppose it's all a matter of whose ox is getting gored.

You talking about the War of Northern Aggression?

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

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Andy9o8

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Except absolutely none of that applies in this case. The guy was a thug.
All those that are looting and rioting are thugs and criminals.

You grossly underestimate the group outrage throughout every segment of the American black population nation-wide today.

Hell yes
Ruin another life cause you are pissed off

Good lawyer


Goooooooooood lawyer

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Bolas 5]

Andy9o8

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Except absolutely none of that applies in this case. The guy was a thug.
All those that are looting and rioting are thugs and criminals.

You grossly underestimate the group outrage throughout every segment of the American black population nation-wide today.

Out of curiosity, are you justifying their irrational behavior, or just explaining it?

One would think if people were tired of being treated as thugs and criminals, they'd stop being thugs and criminals, or even acting or dressing like them. They could even go further and denounce those thugs and criminals and (gasp) work with the police to have them prosecuted for their crimes.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Iago

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You take an irealvant point and come up with this?

Only you would try to declare as irrelevant immediate cause for an incident you cite as a proof that these black thugs are the problem in society.

By all means, don't take rushmc's word for it, take this guy's word for it.

Black Male says that black thugs are a problem in society

I am just a white male, but I think thugs are a problem, whether white or black.

Now, the problem starts when those who look like a thug get harassed because of how they look, not because of what they do, or have done.

That problem is compounded further when people of a specific race are seen as thugs, just because they belong to that race.

When that happens long enough, people get pissed off. Once people get really mad, logic and reasoning tends to go out the door. Add to that some mob mentality and you have got yourself a problem.

What the man in the video says goes for a lot of people. Taking responsibility for your own actions is important. That goes if you are black, white, yellow or purple.

Solution:

Don't look like a thug.

Yet we can't tell a white girl not to dress like a whore after she gets raped.

Unless of course you believe a girl deserves to get raped if she dresses sexy?

[RonD1120 62]

In GA it is referred to as, our recent unpleasantness.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

When I was still working in the drug treatment business I had a black female colleague tell me that young black women love thugs. I also remember a thug from Chicago telling me that he had never masturbated in his life. Why? He never had to.

Maybe the thugs would change their behavior if it hampered their ability to get laid.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Andy9o8 2]

Bolas

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Except absolutely none of that applies in this case. The guy was a thug.
All those that are looting and rioting are thugs and criminals.

You grossly underestimate the group outrage throughout every segment of the American black population nation-wide today.

Out of curiosity, are you justifying their irrational behavior, or just explaining it?

Poor attempt at spinning my point.
Answer: neither.
Not playing the game.

[Andy9o8 2]

Iago

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You take an irealvant point and come up with this?

Only you would try to declare as irrelevant immediate cause for an incident you cite as a proof that these black thugs are the problem in society.

By all means, don't take rushmc's word for it, take this guy's word for it.

Black Male says that black thugs are a problem in society

I am just a white male, but I think thugs are a problem, whether white or black.

Now, the problem starts when those who look like a thug get harassed because of how they look, not because of what they do, or have done.

That problem is compounded further when people of a specific race are seen as thugs, just because they belong to that race.

When that happens long enough, people get pissed off. Once people get really mad, logic and reasoning tends to go out the door. Add to that some mob mentality and you have got yourself a problem.

What the man in the video says goes for a lot of people. Taking responsibility for your own actions is important. That goes if you are black, white, yellow or purple.

Solution:

Don't look like a thug.

Yet we can't tell a white girl not to dress like a whore after she gets raped.

Unless of course you believe a girl deserves to get raped if she dresses sexy?

I'm not saying it's right, but a large part of police work is playing the averages. If you look and act like a thug that's up to no good, you're going to get hassled.

So, stop looking and acting like a thug.

Really? So dress more like white people commonly dress or get hassled by the police.
Institutional racism. Fuck that.

[Andy9o8 2]

Iago

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Really? So dress more like white people commonly dress or get hassled by the police.
Institutional racism. Fuck that.

People profile each other every day. That's just how it works.

Of course. Nonetheless, the broader message implied by his suggestion is repugnant.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Iago

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Really? So dress more like white people commonly dress or get hassled by the police.
Institutional racism. Fuck that.

People profile each other every day. That's just how it works.

And that is fine, it is what you do with that information that matters.

[billvon 2,990]

>People profile each other every day. That's just how it works.

And cops get shot on the job. That's just how it works. Right?

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billvon

>People profile each other every day. That's just how it works.

And cops get shot on the job. That's just how it works. Right?

hopefully not if they react as per their training. Shoot at centre mass until the threat stops. And I don't begrudge them that...

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

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Andy9o8

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Really? So dress more like white people commonly dress or get hassled by the police.
Institutional racism. Fuck that.

People profile each other every day. That's just how it works.

Of course. Nonetheless, the broader message implied by his suggestion is repugnant.

from what I've read, crime is down across the US (and canada) over the last 20 years, but is down even more in the city of New York (as an example). From what I've been reading the reason they attribute crime in New York being down even more than the rest of North America, is because of increased police presence, and 'stop and frisk' laws in certain areas which HAVE, according to the studies I read of, REDUCED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CRIMINALS TO JUST HANG OUT AND COMMIT CRIMES OF OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT HASSLES.

That's what I've read. So, if you want to call it profiling, it seems to have worked...

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[normiss 798]

He's wearing his white guy glasses, that's how it happens it seems.

[normiss 798]

So civilians get shot while cops are on the job, that's how it is.
I find this an unacceptable attitude.
As a society we are sending a message that a cops life matters, and ours do not.

[billvon 2,990]

>hopefully not

Exactly. Hopefully cops don't get shot - and hopefully cops don't profile. Even if both happen occasionally, it's worth trying to stop both.

>Shoot at centre mass until the threat stops. And I don't begrudge them that...

I do when the target is (for example) a guy handcuffed in the back of a police car.

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normiss

So civilians get shot while cops are on the job, that's how it is.
I find this an unacceptable attitude.
As a society we are sending a message that a cops life matters, and ours do not.

if you are a threat...

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[champu 1]

SkyDekker

******Now, the problem starts when those who look like a thug get harassed because of how they look, not because of what they do, or have done.

That problem is compounded further when people of a specific race are seen as thugs, just because they belong to that race.

Solution:

Don't look like a thug.

Yet we can't tell a white girl not to dress like a whore after she gets raped.

Unless of course you believe a girl deserves to get raped if she dresses sexy?

This is not a good comparison.

If you are raped then someone has committed a crime against you, your attire does not commute that in any way.

Being "harassed by police" (ill-defined, but let's just say "contacted by police in a fishing manner") because of overall appearance or because of something on your person, so long as it doesn't relate to a protected class, is not a crime against you. If you escalate the situation (and this is where body cameras become important) then that's on you. At that point it's not about your appearance anymore.

There are plenty of completely legal but unprotected things you can be doing that will draw cops to you and set them on fishing expeditions. You probably even really like that in some cases.

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billvon

>hopefully not

Exactly. Hopefully cops don't get shot - and hopefully cops don't profile. Even if both happen occasionally, it's worth trying to stop both.

>Shoot at centre mass until the threat stops. And I don't begrudge them that...

I do when the target is (for example) a guy handcuffed in the back of a police car.

Let's talk about profiling...last night Rox stops at a grocery to get some last minute Thanksgiving stuff and a couple of bottles of liquor. Not a terrible neighborhood but not the best either.

The way that liquor works in Ohio is it has to be purchased separately and bagged up. So when you leave the store you have liquor in brown paper bag your other stuff in their own bags (plastic). As she leave 4 black youths appear from the nearest corner of the store and start following her to her car. She could tell they were interested in what she had in her cart. They were getting pretty close when all of a sudden the cop that was at the door yelled something to the effect of "you guys planning on helping that lady with her groceries?" They took off running.

Profiling works and I'm glad they do it here in Ohio (and I'm glad we can still get plastic bags...lol)

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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airdvr

***>hopefully not

Exactly. Hopefully cops don't get shot - and hopefully cops don't profile. Even if both happen occasionally, it's worth trying to stop both.

>Shoot at centre mass until the threat stops. And I don't begrudge them that...

I do when the target is (for example) a guy handcuffed in the back of a police car.

Let's talk about profiling...last night Rox stops at a grocery to get some last minute Thanksgiving stuff and a couple of bottles of liquor. Not a terrible neighborhood but not the best either.

The way that liquor works in Ohio is it has to be purchased separately and bagged up. So when you leave the store you have liquor in brown paper bag your other stuff in their own bags (plastic). As she leave 4 black youths appear from the nearest corner of the store and start following her to her car. She could tell they were interested in what she had in her cart. They were getting pretty close when all of a sudden the cop that was at the door yelled something to the effect of "you guys planning on helping that lady with her groceries?" They took off running.

Profiling works and I'm glad they do it here in Ohio (and I'm glad we can still get plastic bags...lol)

Yes, if they were white youths doing the exact same thing it wouldn't have raised a shred of suspicion. Especially if they wore, you know, penny loafers and stuff.

[RonD1120 62]

I would not bet my life against a LEO. I understand the meaning of dead right. But, OTOH, I was trained to take personal responsibility.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Anvilbrother 0]

Let's see slavery was abolished in the 1860's. In the 1940's 63% of the Jewish population was enslaved, gassed, shot, and burned to death. Take a look at how each have recovered and moved on. Did you not see the video put out by the guy the other day? He clearly put out the message that black people need to stop using slavery as an excuse and move on. Stop destroying their own neighborhood, living the rap lifestyle and perpetuating the image that keeps putting them in the spotlight.

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