kallend 2,106 #26 November 12, 2014 BoomerdogI wrote: Quote"We have to pass (the ACA) to see what's in it!" - Nancy Pelosi Same thing with a turd. You wrote: ***Same thing with SEC regulations. Same thing with IRS regulations. Same thing with the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2012. If you think you've found a smoking gun you are sorely mistaken. Is it possible you just called three agencies within the USG turds? Most Conservatives would agree with you on your points. Careful now, you wouldn't want to be accused of coming over to the Dark Side. One of my favorite Lefties on the verge of converting????? We just may have a front page story here! That was your analogy, not mine. Point being that ACA is not an outlier in respect of being incomprehensible to average Americans and even the Congress that passes these laws. ACA just happens to be the current stick that the angry right finds convenient to bash Obama.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #27 November 12, 2014 rushmcThe only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed So we have one president who lied to get health care to more americans. We have the preceding president who lied to go to war and kill thousands of Americans. You have made it clear which one you support. QuoteShameful Indeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #28 November 12, 2014 SkyDekker***The only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed So we have one president who lied to get health care to more americans. We have the preceding president who lied to go to war and kill thousands of Americans. You have made it clear which one you support. QuoteShameful Indeedexcept you are lying about bush but you should have posted this to kallend"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #29 November 12, 2014 rushmc******The only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed So we have one president who lied to get health care to more americans. We have the preceding president who lied to go to war and kill thousands of Americans. You have made it clear which one you support. QuoteShameful Indeedexcept you are lying about bush but you should have posted this to kallend Even if that is the case it would read: We have one president who lied ot get health crae for Americans. We have another president who fucked up royally and got thousands of americans (and tens if not hundreds of thousands of non-americans) killed and facilitated the rise of ISIL. We know which one you support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #30 November 12, 2014 SkyDekker*********The only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed So we have one president who lied to get health care to more americans. We have the preceding president who lied to go to war and kill thousands of Americans. You have made it clear which one you support. QuoteShameful Indeedexcept you are lying about bush but you should have posted this to kallend Even if that is the case it would read: We have one president who lied ot get health crae for Americans. We have another president who fucked up royally and got thousands of americans (and tens if not hundreds of thousands of non-americans) killed and facilitated the rise of ISIL. We know which one you support. Now you mix apples and oranges to try and salvage yourself There is a BIG difference between screwing up and intentional deceit But liberals are an ends justify the means type of people Here, we know what YOU support"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 November 12, 2014 He really need stupid people to support the ACA or so he says http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/12/another-tape-surfaces-obamacare-architect-calling-american-people-stupid/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #32 November 12, 2014 QuoteNow you mix apples and oranges to try and salvage yourself There is a BIG difference between screwing up and intentional deceit Maybe there is, however you are vilifying Obama for supposedly lieing to get health crae for americans. Yet, you celebrate Bush for screwing up and getting thousands of Americans killed. To steal from and paraphrase a fellow Canadian: Corporate profits are at a record high. Unemployment is below 6% and you are adding roughly 200,000 jobs a month. Stock indexes are at or near record highs. Gross national product growth is the best of any OECD country. The US dollar is gaining strength. Oil prices are falling, US oil imports are declining and US oil production is increasing rapidly. Oh and your deficit is starting to reduce as well. On top of that, your venerated wealthy are still making incredible amounts of money. Makes sense you would want to punish Democrats and yearn for the return of Republicans. The party that got you into the mess to begin with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 November 12, 2014 SkyDekkerQuoteNow you mix apples and oranges to try and salvage yourself There is a BIG difference between screwing up and intentional deceit Maybe there is, however you are vilifying Obama for supposedly lieing to get health crae for americans. Yet, you celebrate Bush for screwing up and getting thousands of Americans killed. To steal from and paraphrase a fellow Canadian: Corporate profits are at a record high. Unemployment is below 6% and you are adding roughly 200,000 jobs a month. Stock indexes are at or near record highs. Gross national product growth is the best of any OECD country. The US dollar is gaining strength. Oil prices are falling, US oil imports are declining and US oil production is increasing rapidly. Oh and your deficit is starting to reduce as well. On top of that, your venerated wealthy are still making incredible amounts of money. Makes sense you would want to punish Democrats and yearn for the return of Republicans. The party that got you into the mess to begin with. I am glad you got all the talking point excuses down to try and drag this thread off topic ACA is what we are talking about It was sold as a big lie you are ok with that I am not I look forward to you next twist should you decide not to put the shovel down"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #34 November 12, 2014 rushmc******The only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed So we have one president who lied to get health care to more americans. We have the preceding president who lied to go to war and kill thousands of Americans. You have made it clear which one you support. QuoteShameful Indeedexcept you are lying about bush but you should have posted this to kallend Denial is not just a river in Africa, Marc. Bush, Powell, Rice, Cheney and Rumsfeld all lied. Then we have Reagan who sold arms to Iran and lied about it, who armed the Contras and lied about it, who armed Osama bin Laden, and who raised the national debt by 181%, and the right considers him a hero.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #35 November 12, 2014 rushmc***QuoteNow you mix apples and oranges to try and salvage yourself There is a BIG difference between screwing up and intentional deceit Maybe there is, however you are vilifying Obama for supposedly lieing to get health crae for americans. Yet, you celebrate Bush for screwing up and getting thousands of Americans killed. To steal from and paraphrase a fellow Canadian: Corporate profits are at a record high. Unemployment is below 6% and you are adding roughly 200,000 jobs a month. Stock indexes are at or near record highs. Gross national product growth is the best of any OECD country. The US dollar is gaining strength. Oil prices are falling, US oil imports are declining and US oil production is increasing rapidly. Oh and your deficit is starting to reduce as well. On top of that, your venerated wealthy are still making incredible amounts of money. Makes sense you would want to punish Democrats and yearn for the return of Republicans. The party that got you into the mess to begin with. I am glad you got all the talking point excuses down to try and drag this thread off topic ACA is what we are talking about It was sold as a big lie you are ok with that I am not I look forward to you next twist should you decide not to put the shovel down Yes, I figured you would say that. So let me pull a rush... Prove that Obama lied. A court case maybe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #36 November 12, 2014 kallend*********The only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed So we have one president who lied to get health care to more americans. We have the preceding president who lied to go to war and kill thousands of Americans. You have made it clear which one you support. QuoteShameful Indeedexcept you are lying about bush but you should have posted this to kallend Denial is not just a river in Africa, Marc. Bush, Powell, Rice, Cheney and Rumsfeld all lied. Then we have Reagan who sold arms to Iran and lied about it, who armed the Contras and lied about it, who armed Osama bin Laden, and who raised the national debt by 181%, and the right considers him a hero. and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #37 November 12, 2014 Quoteand you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #38 November 12, 2014 QuotePoint being that ACA is not an outlier in respect of being incomprehensible to average Americans and even the Congress that passes these laws. ACA just happens to be the current stick that the angry right finds convenient to bash Obama. Ah shucks! No conversion?!?! No front page story? Rats! Oh well, it also means Hell won't freeze over! Situation all back to normal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #39 November 12, 2014 SkyDekker Quote and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Improve????Talk about just spews what one reads on the internet or facebook"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #40 November 12, 2014 rushmc *** Quote and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Improve????Talk about just spews what one reads on the internet or facebookPlease would you re-write that in English.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #41 November 12, 2014 kallend ****** Quote and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Improve????Talk about just spews what one reads on the internet or facebookPlease would you re-write that in English. look at a post from him in another thread He knows exactly what I am talking about"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #42 November 12, 2014 rushmc************The only thing you have supported it that you are fine with the get what you want any way you can crowd Fully knowing that you must lie to get it, because on its own merits is it doomed So we have one president who lied to get health care to more americans. We have the preceding president who lied to go to war and kill thousands of Americans. You have made it clear which one you support. QuoteShameful Indeedexcept you are lying about bush but you should have posted this to kallend Denial is not just a river in Africa, Marc. Bush, Powell, Rice, Cheney and Rumsfeld all lied. Then we have Reagan who sold arms to Iran and lied about it, who armed the Contras and lied about it, who armed Osama bin Laden, and who raised the national debt by 181%, and the right considers him a hero. and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? Strawman. I simply accept that this is the way Congress operates, always has, and probably always will. Congress is mostly made up of lawyers. Q. Who stand to benefit from incomprehensible laws and regulations? A. Lawyers. Getting all upset about it is a waste of time and energy.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #43 November 12, 2014 Hypocrisy"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #44 November 12, 2014 rushmc *** Quote and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Improve????Talk about just spews what one reads on the internet or facebookIt says tries to improve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #45 November 12, 2014 rushmcHypocrisy Project much?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #46 November 12, 2014 SkyDekker ****** Quote and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Improve????Talk about just spews what one reads on the internet or facebookIt says tries to improve. what site or who, tells you what to say or think? Cause there is no way you could ever think of those things on your own"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #47 November 12, 2014 rushmc ********* Quote and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Improve????Talk about just spews what one reads on the internet or facebookIt says tries to improve. what site or who, tells you what to say or think? Cause there is no way you could ever think of those things on your own Says the guy who repeatedly posts from Breitbart, Newsmax, Limbaugh and Fox.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #48 November 12, 2014 kallend***Hypocrisy Project much? If you really believed what you posted you would not talk about bush lying but you do Acepting this for one party and not the other is the definition of being a hypocrit"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #49 November 12, 2014 kallend ************ Quote and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Improve????Talk about just spews what one reads on the internet or facebookIt says tries to improve. what site or who, tells you what to say or think? Cause there is no way you could ever think of those things on your own Says the guy who repeatedly posts from Breitbart, Newsmax, Limbaugh and Fox. they are thorns in your side arent they"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #50 November 12, 2014 rushmc *************** Quote and you are ok with obama lieing to get a law passed so whats your bitch? One lie tries to bring health care to more americans The other lie killed americans. Why are you upset about the lie that tries to improve health care for americans, but happy about the lie that killed thousands of your country men and women? Improve????Talk about just spews what one reads on the internet or facebookIt says tries to improve. what site or who, tells you what to say or think? Cause there is no way you could ever think of those things on your own Says the guy who repeatedly posts from Breitbart, Newsmax, Limbaugh and Fox. they are thorns in your side arent theyDo you ever think about what you post? You contradict yourself with great regularity?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites