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RonD1120

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RonD1120

However, I am skeptical of religion.



Step 1: pick an internet forum; extoll your religion's virtues for years on end
Step 2: claim to be skeptical of religion
Step 3: achieve epic troll status

Internet kids these days have no clue how to play a long game like that. They could learn something from you.
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Andy9o8

***This is a very good explanation government's need for religious teaching. It's only 0:01:39 long.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjntXYDPw44



It's bullshit. While I agree with the premise that "democracy" (as a generic term, even if in the form of a republic, etc.) works principally because citizens, for the most part, obey the law by choice, the speaker promotes the fallacious premise that presumes that the only (or at least the best) valid dynamic that drives voluntarily ethical behavior in the social compact must be taught and driven by religious belief.

For an alternate perspective, people should educate themselves on, for one example, Secular Humanism.

It's rather simple...most everybody was on the same page back in the day. Now everybody is doing their own thing...not necessarily a bad thing, but it kinda makes it hard to agree with each other...
Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

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It's rather simple...most everybody was on the same page back in the day. Now everybody is doing their own thing...

back in the day, the pages were much smaller. You only knew a lot about your own town; a twenty-mile distance was a pretty big journey, and newspapers were weekly if they existed at all. And that's just 150 years ago.

Transportation, tv, telephones and internet have changed how much world we can perceive, but they haven't changed how big a group we can seriously understand.

Best to you; I'm glad you're working on parts of life that you feel make you better instead of worse. That's a great resolution for everyone, New Year's resolution or just a decision :)
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There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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It's rather simple...most everybody was on the same page back in the day. Now everybody is doing their own thing...not necessarily a bad thing, but it kinda makes it hard to agree with each other...



Everybody being on the same page, for the sake of being on the same page, is terrifying and dangerous. Good riddance to those days; I would not romanticize them for one minute.

We can thanks those deeper thinker of "the same page" throughout history for the deaths of (among many, many, many others):

- more than one scientist who suggested the world may not be flat
- hundreds of thousands in the American Civil War, because a giant dumb group couldn't get off the page of enslaving blacks
- MLK, who a century later asked a giant dumb group to get off the page of denying blacks complete civil rights

Sharing a belief with a large group does not inherently make it a bad belief. But a rational man really needs to ask himself where his beliefs come from. And unfortunately even in enlightened countries today there are still those who grow up with unquestioning acceptance of the belief system "inherited" from their parents/state/country.

The reason everybody is not on the same page today is because fortunately many people realize they can form their own beliefs, and morals and law can be shaped by logic and rational compassion, no magic books or inherited beliefs needed. We can thank wider information sharing at least partially for this, as the above post alludes to.
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If the religion keeps the morals intact, than we do not need police/DA/judges at all.

People obey law because they don't want to go to jail, pay fine.
Everyone is fooling themselves if person is born pure and innocent. They are not.

I would've killed multiple number of people if it wasn't for the consequence.

Go to community college and take some Sociology and Criminology classes. They will give you some sounding theory(based on science) on why people act deviant behavior and why you and everyone thinks certain way.

ISIS happens when overly religious group takes over.

Who is to say that what ISIS is doing is wrong?
to their eye, we are all sinners and we should all go to hell or whatever Allah Akbar may bring.

Look at North Koreans, their socialization or lack of socialization created mass of citizens so blinded to the fact that we are all enemy that takes money and power away from the working force.
Bernie Sanders for President 2016

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Andy9o8

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It's rather simple...most everybody was on the same page back in the day. Now everybody is doing their own thing...



That's bullshit, too.



No kidding!

The idea the US was founded as a "Christian" country is not supported by history.
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Our forefathers were so smart. Way ahead of its time.

Separation of church and state was not established out of accident.

Our forefathers thought that common citizen lacks the understanding of how government should work. They continue to prove themselves right, over and over again through time.
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stayhigh

Separation of church and state was not established out of accident.



THE basic issue was it's how "kings" claimed power. As long as you have a "king" who can claim rule by Devine right, nobody is truly free.
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1. We are not a democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic governed by a set of rules and principles set forth in the US Constitution, NOT by a bible.

2. It is necessary for a separation between religion and government. We are allowed to believe whatever we want or nothing at all. People with different religions have different standards. Driving America on that notion would cause a rift and create different standards.

3. Whose laws? Religious ones or the ones set forth in the Constitution? Exactly.

4. Why the hell is a business professor explaining this instead of a
professor within the religion or law department?

5. This is blatant propaganda!

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