funjumper101 15 #1 January 16, 2015 Times change The USA executed Japanese war criminals after WWII for torturing POWS by waterboarding them. The people who are responsible for the USA waterboarding POWs have yet to be arrested, tried, and convicted for their criminal acts. Half the population does not see their actions as illegal, despicable acts. Quite the contrary. The RWC media has convinced the sheeple that ShrubCo, et al, performed their crimes in morally defensible and legal manner. The drift of the moral compass of the USA towards degeneracy is remarkable. Thanks to the Reich Wing Media machine, actions that are war crimes aren't war crimes when the USA commits the act. When done to our citizens, the acts are worthy of the death penalty. When done by the USA to citizens of other countries, the acts are acceptable ad OK. Two faced sons of bitches is how the rest of the world sees us. Is it any wonder that a good portion of the rest of the world hates us with intense passion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #2 January 16, 2015 Boooohoooo to them!!!!! I will just crank up some fox news and drown out the hate while I donate a few $ to the NRA, and then kick a puppy.....Hows your evening Amazon. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #3 January 16, 2015 AnvilbrotherBoooohoooo!!!!! I will just crank up some fox news and drown out the hate while I donate a few $ to the NRA, and then kick a puppy.....Hows your evening Amazon. Pretty much the reaction to be expected for a Reich Wing follower. Thanks for proving my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #4 January 16, 2015 funjumper101***Boooohoooo!!!!! I will just crank up some fox news and drown out the hate while I donate a few $ to the NRA, and then kick a puppy.....Hows your evening Amazon. Pretty much the reaction to be expected for a Reich Wing follower. Thanks for proving my point. Wow, and irony score just flew out of the inner solar system.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #5 January 16, 2015 I dont watch tv news, and only listen to am radio to hear Dave Ramsey. My news comes from the front page of google news, the most recent and top stories from ALL sources. What was your point, that we used to do something, and it changed. We used to do alot of things a certain way, that's changed, it will probably change back to it in the future, and then back the other way again later down the road. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 January 16, 2015 Very nice. You propose that all people should be treated like blacks were treated in the past, and the government should be the one doing it. The true mindset of the progressive. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #7 January 16, 2015 lawrocketVery nice. You propose that all people should be treated like blacks were treated in the past, and the government should be the one doing it. The true mindset of the progressive. Lets not forget that women folk shouldn't be able to vote, and their husbands must direct traffic as they drive a car.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 January 16, 2015 turtlespeed***Very nice. You propose that all people should be treated like blacks were treated in the past, and the government should be the one doing it. The true mindset of the progressive. Lets not forget that women folk shouldn't be able to vote, and their husbands must direct traffic as they drive a car. Women should be home ith the kids and pregnant. The more the merrier. And the village should raise the kids while the father is in prison. The difference beteen a progressive and a communist is that a communist will force a person to work. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 54 #9 January 16, 2015 turtlespeed ***Very nice. You propose that all people should be treated like blacks were treated in the past, and the government should be the one doing it. The true mindset of the progressive. Lets not forget that women folk shouldn't be able to vote, and their husbands must direct traffic as they drive a car. It wasn't that long ago I ran over a turtle, on my way to the voting booth, in my Corvette. Dang, mrowc6 wasn't there to tell me to swerve. It's a good thing; it was a small turtle, less than 4 inches tall, I straddled it, and missed it. I looked in the R.V. mirror, and it was intact, but withdrawn. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #10 January 16, 2015 oldwomanc6 ******Very nice. You propose that all people should be treated like blacks were treated in the past, and the government should be the one doing it. The true mindset of the progressive. Lets not forget that women folk shouldn't be able to vote, and their husbands must direct traffic as they drive a car. It wasn't that long ago I ran over a turtle, on my way to the voting booth, in my Corvette. Dang, mrowc6 wasn't there to tell me to swerve. It's a good thing; it was a small turtle, less than 4 inches tall, I straddled it, and missed it. I looked in the R.V. mirror, and it was intact, but withdrawn. Get back in the kitchen and make me a sammich!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #11 January 16, 2015 place some mice under a metal cover on your stomach then heat it and then when it's hot then the mice will start to scratch the person's stomach until it's full of holes and won't stop till they find a way out or when the Japanese stops them. They hang you onto something I don't know what then place a growing bamboo under you and wait for it to grow until it pierces through your whole body 0.0 - takes about 3-4 days. Water Treatment as used by the Japanese military during World War II was a form of water torture in which the victim is forced to drink large quantities of water in a short time, resulting in gastric distension, water intoxication, and sometime death. In this form of water torture, water is forced down the throat and into the stomach. This happens repeatedly until osmosis causes the cells to explode. Water boarding as used today refers to a technique involving water poured over the face or head of the subject, in order to evoke the instinctive fear of drowning. Often, a wet cloth is placed in the subject's mouth, giving them the impression that they are drowning. Perhaps the cannibalism was a touch over the top when their supply lines got cut but hey! we weren't Japanese - we were subhuman mongrels and tasted like chicken. Pretty sure waterboarding as the US uses it is terrifying but overall benign compared to what actually got the Japanese executed. oh, and what the hell, lets talk about when a soldier just felt like killing a prisoner - they did it, didn't ask permission, just went ahead and stabbed/shot/beat to death/drowned/hung/ etc... and they didn't just do it once. Rest of the world may hate us but they sure will take our money wont they? when you have an enemy that will murder thousands you cant just ask "pretty please, tell me what your planning" I for one wont apologize for waterboarding those fucktards - if I was in charge they would have gotten worse - and I don't give a shit if that offends you or anyone else. the rest of the world hates us? fuck them RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD64 1 #12 January 16, 2015 funjumper101.......yes, times do change. Judging yesteryears actions with today's propagandizing media (to include Fox news) controlled by the ruling elites, sets up today's "morals". Of course rules for you and I......but not them. They can still kill USA citizens and family with drones, take your property (eminent domain), take your money and redistribute your money to "their" causes (obamacare taxes, income taxes, gas taxes, federal inheritance taxes [now 50% was 0], etc.). And, they can legally do "insider trading" (which would put most in prison....Martha Stewart). Lie (which was actually put into a bill that was passed awhile back....paraphrasing,the government can legally lie to citizens without repercussions...),sorry I should be working, no time to goggle link). In simpler times (yesteryear)," the do onto others as you would have them do onto you" was the "sort of moral standard". But IMO opinion, those standards go out the door when it comes to war. By "todays morals" my grandpa, dad, and hell, even myself (as well some other posters here) would be considered war criminals. "Two faced son of a bitches" most definitely......I put that directly on the backs of the ruling elite. Slight thread drift ......Fox News or Faux News is owned by Murrdock a progressive that has openly supported Hillary ($200K-$300K in her last attempt). I see the propagandist as the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #13 January 16, 2015 Quotewhen you have an enemy that will murder thousands you cant just ask "pretty please, tell me what your planning" I for one wont apologize for waterboarding those fucktards - if I was in charge they would have gotten worse - and I don't give a shit if that offends you or anyone else. I'd prefer to use techniques that result in more useful intel, but that's just me. If torture gets you off, then I guess that's your bag. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #14 January 16, 2015 so how would you get the info?They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #15 January 16, 2015 Gaining the prisoner's trust is the only way to get true cooperation. Torture is counterproductive. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #16 January 16, 2015 D22369 place some mice under a metal cover on your stomach then heat it and then when it's hot then the mice will start to scratch the person's stomach until it's full of holes and won't stop till they find a way out or when the Japanese stops them. They hang you onto something I don't know what then place a growing bamboo under you and wait for it to grow until it pierces through your whole body 0.0 - takes about 3-4 days. Water Treatment as used by the Japanese military during World War II was a form of water torture in which the victim is forced to drink large quantities of water in a short time, resulting in gastric distension, water intoxication, and sometime death. In this form of water torture, water is forced down the throat and into the stomach. This happens repeatedly until osmosis causes the cells to explode. Water boarding as used today refers to a technique involving water poured over the face or head of the subject, in order to evoke the instinctive fear of drowning. Often, a wet cloth is placed in the subject's mouth, giving them the impression that they are drowning. Perhaps the cannibalism was a touch over the top when their supply lines got cut but hey! we weren't Japanese - we were subhuman mongrels and tasted like chicken. Pretty sure waterboarding as the US uses it is terrifying but overall benign compared to what actually got the Japanese executed. oh, and what the hell, lets talk about when a soldier just felt like killing a prisoner - they did it, didn't ask permission, just went ahead and stabbed/shot/beat to death/drowned/hung/ etc... and they didn't just do it once. Rest of the world may hate us but they sure will take our money wont they? when you have an enemy that will murder thousands you cant just ask "pretty please, tell me what your planning" I for one wont apologize for waterboarding those fucktards - if I was in charge they would have gotten worse - and I don't give a shit if that offends you or anyone else. the rest of the world hates us? fuck them Roy And the US granted pardons to the worst japanse offenders as long as they would share the outcome of their "research". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #17 January 16, 2015 DanGGaining the prisoner's trust is the only way to get true cooperation. And if that doesn't work?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #18 January 16, 2015 BillyVance***Gaining the prisoner's trust is the only way to get true cooperation. And if that doesn't work? You keep going. And if it still doesn't work, c'est la vie. BTW, do you also ask "what if torture doesn't work"* or do you just assume it will? * In case you're wondering, you use up time, money and manpower chasing false leads and potentially killing or capturing innocent people, and at the end of it you have a broken shell of a prisoner who you'll probably never be able to establish a productive rapport with or extract any honest intel from in the future.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #19 January 17, 2015 lawrocketVery nice. You propose that all people should be treated like blacks were treated in the past, and the government should be the one doing it. The true mindset of the progressive. Crazy shit came out of the weak minds of many who posted on this thread. Nothing in my original post referenced anything about what lawrockets post here rants about. What a bizarre and crazy conclusion to come to. The Reich Wingers truly are nuts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #20 January 17, 2015 funjumper101***Very nice. You propose that all people should be treated like blacks were treated in the past, and the government should be the one doing it. The true mindset of the progressive. Crazy shit came out of the weak minds of many who posted on this thread. Nothing in my original post referenced anything about what lawrockets post here rants about. What a bizarre and crazy conclusion to come to. The Reich Wingers truly are nuts. So then you think that people should have the right to arm themselves. I was wrong about you. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #21 January 18, 2015 lawrocket******Very nice. You propose that all people should be treated like blacks were treated in the past, and the government should be the one doing it. The true mindset of the progressive. Crazy shit came out of the weak minds of many who posted on this thread. Nothing in my original post referenced anything about what lawrockets post here rants about. What a bizarre and crazy conclusion to come to. The Reich Wingers truly are nuts. So then you think that people should have the right to arm themselves. I was wrong about you. He can't decide what he stands for - they haven't told him what to think yet.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #22 January 18, 2015 D22369so how would you get the info? During training in how to glean information from prisoners, the first point made was that torture was counterproductive by any measure. In 'Doctor Strangelove,' Group Captain Lionel Mandrake notes that, when tortured by the Japanese, they didn't seem to be interested in information but just rather enjoyed it. Rommel's approach to getting information from captured officers was to invite them to dinner. Careful observation of their behavior often gave clues to key information that could prove useful. Of course, any good game of chess has two sides. On at least one occasion Rommel observed officers who intentionally picked at their food even though they were famished, and was led to believe that a captured Italian officer had spilled the beans about German supply convoys, which were actually being sunk because the Brits were reading the Germans' mail. Nevertheless, waterboarding simply told me that the prosecution of the war to bring Truth, Justice and the American Way to the sandbox was being handled by vicious morons. I have yet to be disabused of that notion. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #23 January 19, 2015 So you are a big fan of 1940s morality?!? Why don't you hop into a time machine (located in the same aisle with AGW and unicorns) and take your tiny penis back to the xenophobic, homophobic, racist, misogynist era for which you long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #24 January 21, 2015 What say you funjumper101? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,460 #25 January 21, 2015 Somehow I don't think the "tiny penis" comment, along with all the other characterizations that I'd've marked as a personal attack (unless, of course, you've measured his penis ), provided him with much to rebut. Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites