jclalor 12 #1 January 23, 2015 With what appears to be the imminent murder of a couple of Japanese, I find my self tired of having to look at these poor folks. Dressed in the traditional orange garb, with a slightly non descript hill as a back drop. I really wish the media would stop showing these images, I'm a nurse, I don't mind blood and guts, but I really find myself affected by the doomed haunted look in their eyes. It seems like a great invasion of their privacy. I know I'm probably in the minority. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/20/purported-isis-video-threatens-japanese-hostages-in-lieu-200m-ransom/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #2 January 23, 2015 I have a friend who suffered a serious head injury a few years ago. Took him a couple of years to recover. He said that since he emptied his head with the injury, he makes a point of trying to fill it back up again with only good stuff. Sounded very wise to me. So I just don't watch that stuff. If I need to I can, but my disgust and anger fuel nothing. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #3 January 23, 2015 I just don't watch the news, personally. When I see that sort of thing I guess it doesn't really affect me much, though. That said, I've been accused of being "cold", "heartless", a "robot" and in one notable case "a miserable cunt" so perhaps I'm not really the target audience for this question.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #4 January 24, 2015 jclalorWith what appears to be the imminent murder of a couple of Japanese, I find my self tired of having to look at these poor folks. Dressed in the traditional orange garb, with a slightly non descript hill as a back drop. I really wish the media would stop showing these images, I'm a nurse, I don't mind blood and guts, but I really find myself affected by the doomed haunted look in their eyes. It seems like a great invasion of their privacy. I know I'm probably in the minority. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/20/purported-isis-video-threatens-japanese-hostages-in-lieu-200m-ransom/ You left out the option for the video of the beheading itself. Some time back I fucked up and played a video of Chechens beheading a captured Russian soldier, expecting it to be the expurgated version. It wasn't. I nearly threw up. I now have absolutely no use for Chechens in any way shape or form. Same goes for any group that spawns ISIS. If they were all to simultaneously choke on chicken bones, I would consider it to be a good thing. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #5 January 24, 2015 jclalorWith what appears to be the imminent murder of a couple of Japanese, I find my self tired of having to look at these poor folks. Dressed in the traditional orange garb, with a slightly non descript hill as a back drop. I really wish the media would stop showing these images, I'm a nurse, I don't mind blood and guts, but I really find myself affected by the doomed haunted look in their eyes. It seems like a great invasion of their privacy. I know I'm probably in the minority. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/20/purported-isis-video-threatens-japanese-hostages-in-lieu-200m-ransom/ saw something on the news today that they think the subjects are actually indoors, and the background has been altered... Don't know if that's trueIf some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #6 January 24, 2015 Any such barbarism is disturbing.... further evidence that we have become inundated with Video footage..some of which certainly crosses the line of "acceptable".... Worse however,,, are the Actions... which the videos depict...... The World is going to hell in a hurry.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #7 January 24, 2015 I understand you are insulted and horrified by the graphics as we all are. However, I do hope you would keep somewhere in the fore front of your mind that one of these days, it could be you or me if we don't take harsh measures now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 January 24, 2015 QuoteSome time back I fucked up and played a video of Chechens beheading a captured Russian soldier..... I now have absolutely no use for Chechens in any way shape or form. Then the barbarism of people who act that way has won. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #9 January 24, 2015 Allegedly they offed one of them. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #10 January 24, 2015 As long as we allow them to use the media to further their ends I will not view the scumbag's political statements.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #11 January 24, 2015 BoomerdogI understand you are insulted and horrified by the graphics as we all are. However, I do hope you would keep somewhere in the fore front of your mind that one of these days, it could be you or me if we don't take harsh measures now. I'm not insulted. I also know it's horrific to gang rape a 10 year old... without having to see the video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #12 January 24, 2015 Ooh they do that too. http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/10/03/352815113/isis-captives-tell-of-rapes-and-beatings-plead-for-help Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speed-Flyer 0 #13 January 24, 2015 Quotesaw something on the news today that they think the subjects are actually indoors, and the background has been altered... Don't know if that's true These are 3 possible scenarios explaining the location of the Japanese hostage images. Considering they have a shadows on the opposite side of each other; - There are 2 suns in our solar system and it is in the desert as depicted. - Isis is actually fighting on Tatooine with Dark Vador. - This images were taken in front of a green screen with lighting. Meanwhile... President Obama is cutting his trip to India short, to pay respects to the person that has beheaded the most people in recent history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #14 January 24, 2015 QuoteI understand you are insulted and horrified by the graphics as we all are. However, I do hope you would keep somewhere in the fore front of your mind that one of these days, it could be you or me if we don't take harsh measures now. Personally, I don't see any difference between being a journalists in a 3rd world country, knowing they all HATE you, and would love to extenguish your life, and jumping out of a plane knowing it could be the last sane thing you do. I've been working in Sumatra flying over the same seas and same planes that have been going missing over there near Indonesia. I gotta tell ya, landing at Moscow Int'l Airport is no picnic, I hate it.As far as traveling to the middle east, believe it or not, much more stress free. Those Arabs don't go for that kind of BS.VACATION!-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #15 January 24, 2015 Speed-FlyerMeanwhile... President Obama is cutting his trip to India short, to pay respects to the person that has beheaded the most people in recent history. To be fair, while that does suck it's not an Obama thing, it's an every politician thing. In fact, so far the only political figure I've seen who stood up and said 'hang on a minute, this guy was a fucking cunt' is an ex-MP who doesn't have to toe the party line any more. Everyone else is still in thrall. Apparently if they let us keep our military bases there it doesn't matter that they're worse than most of the people in the region that we're using those bases to attack.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #16 January 24, 2015 airdvrAs long as we allow them to use the media to further their ends I will not view the scumbag's political statements. No truer words spoken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #17 January 24, 2015 Speed-FlyerQuotesaw something on the news today that they think the subjects are actually indoors, and the background has been altered... Don't know if that's true These are 3 possible scenarios explaining the location of the Japanese hostage images. Considering they have a shadows on the opposite side of each other; - There are 2 suns in our solar system and it is in the desert as depicted. - Isis is actually fighting on Tatooine with Dark Vador. - This images were taken in front of a green screen with lighting. Meanwhile... President Obama is cutting his trip to India short, to pay respects to the person that has beheaded the most people in recent history. These two seem to have really hit it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #18 January 24, 2015 Speed-Flyer - This images were taken in front of a green screen with lighting. This. It sure as hell looks like Chroma key to me."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #19 January 25, 2015 jakee***Meanwhile... President Obama is cutting his trip to India short, to pay respects to the person that has beheaded the most people in recent history. To be fair, while that does suck it's not an Obama thing, it's an every politician thing. In fact, so far the only political figure I've seen who stood up and said 'hang on a minute, this guy was a fucking cunt' is an ex-MP who doesn't have to toe the party line any more. Everyone else is still in thrall. Apparently if they let us keep our military bases there it doesn't matter that they're worse than most of the people in the region that we're using those bases to attack. 'refers to politics or diplomacy based primarily on power and on practical and material factors and considerations, rather than ideological notions or moralistic or ethical premises." ... ... called Realpolitik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #20 January 25, 2015 jclalorWith what appears to be the imminent murder of a couple of Japanese, I find my self tired of having to look at these poor folks. Dressed in the traditional orange garb, with a slightly non descript hill as a back drop. I really wish the media would stop showing these images, I'm a nurse, I don't mind blood and guts, but I really find myself affected by the doomed haunted look in their eyes. It seems like a great invasion of their privacy. I know I'm probably in the minority. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/20/purported-isis-video-threatens-japanese-hostages-in-lieu-200m-ransom/ You're wrong. You are a humanist and you care for others. Most people would want to associate with you. But the average person has problems defining the politics of this situation and region. Daesh, the current self defined name of the Islamic State directs these videos to define who they are. They clearly state their policy in public documents as well. "One should remember that enslaving the families of the kuffar — the infidels — and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of the Shariah, or Islamic law.” Indeed so: “When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.” (Umdat al-Salik O9.13) “Shocking: ISIS Official ‘Slave’ Price List Shows Yazidi, Christian Girls Aged ‘1 to 9′ Being Sold for $172,” by Johnlee Varghese, International Business Times, November 5, 2014 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):" http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/islamic-state-slave-price-list-shows-yazidi-christian-girls-aged-1-9-being-sold-for-172 On the other hand there is the Government of Syria, led by Assad. "Protests in Syria started on 26 January 2011. Protesters called for political reforms and the re-instatement of civil rights, as well as an end to the state of emergency which had been in place since 1963"... By the end of January 2012, it was reported that over 5,000 civilians and protesters (including armed militants) had been killed by the Syrian army, militia (Shabiha) and security agents, while 1,100 people had been killed by the anti-government forces" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashar_al-Assad A government supported by Russia, Iran, Jordan(Default Hezbollah puppet government). All these governments, members on U.N., UN security council and financiers of the war that led to Daesh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #21 January 26, 2015 Like it or not, news reporting is surely a ratings game these days. Nothing draws a crowd like death, destruction and general horror, and ultimately we are creating the market for these stories. This 'need to be informed' ideal that we hold so dear doesn't really stand up unless we're going to do something worthwhile with that information, preferably to actually try and change things. Generally speaking we don't do anything at all, and in most cases there's nothing we can do - so we just shake our heads and say what a terrible place the world is, and how evil certain groups of people are, and wait for the next developments every hour, on the hour. I'm sorry to say I think there's a ghoulish element to most, and possibly all, of us. We're fascinated by tragedy and disaster, and if we weren't those stories wouldn't be featured front and centre every day. At the same time we don't want them to be too close to home, too graphic or too personal. The beheadings are all of the above, so we're drawn to those reports and at the same time made uncomfortable by both our own interest and the thought of what those poor people are going through. I voted that I find the videos disturbing. There's clearly no need for them to be shown at all, but once they're out there - like the scene of the car crash you pass while you're driving - it's hard to look away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #22 January 26, 2015 The only beheading video I ever watched, and I hope to never see another one again, was Daniel Berg's. Just watching Al Zarqawi pull out his knife, grab Daniel's head and start carving with Daniel's gurgling screams and then holding his severed head up to the camera... really gave me a sickening feeling in my stomach. I've seen plenty of fucked up shit and lots of dead bodies, but that act of killing was just savage. FUCK ISIS and all their stupid motherfuckers. May they be wiped off the face of the earth and burn in hell. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites