"CEO of Gallup calls jobless rate 'big lie' created by White House, Wall Street, media"

[DanG 1]

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I have been called racist on this sight and billvon loves to point out that he (as well as Andy) think I hate Obama
So you are wrong

Not the same.

You are never called racist because you hate Obama. That's what you always claim, and it just isn't true.

And please don't try to say you're neutral on Obama. You may not hate him, in the Biblical sense, but you're pretty darn close to hate.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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I have been called racist on this sight and billvon loves to point out that he (as well as Andy) think I hate Obama
So you are wrong

Not the same.

You are never called racist because you hate Obama. That's what you always claim, and it just isn't true.

And please don't try to say you're neutral on Obama. You may not hate him, in the Biblical sense, but you're pretty darn close to hate.

Ahh yes
I forget you think you can look into others souls

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

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Ahh yes
I forget you think you can look into others souls

So if hatred isn't right, how do you describe your feelings about Obama?

And I noticed you chose not to comment on the main point, namely that you are never called a racist because of your of Obama.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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Ahh yes
I forget you think you can look into others souls

So if hatred isn't right, how do you describe your feelings about Obama?

And I noticed you chose not to comment on the main point, namely that you are never called a racist because of your of Obama.

I have no feelings regarding Obama
I only have opinions on what he has done and is doing

You can pick the reason I have been called a racists
Fuck man, you even implied it in your reply

And it has been said (to me) that I dislike Obama because he is black
What would call that?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

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I have no feelings regarding Obama
I only have opinions on what he has done and is doing

Sorry, but that doesn't ring true. You can't possibly think as much as you do about the man, and not have any feelings about him.

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You can pick the reason I have been called a racists
Fuck man, you even implied it in your reply

Really, what exactly did I say that implied why you have been called a racist?

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And it has been said (to me) that I dislike Obama because he is black
What would call that?

If that were the reason you disliked Obama, then it would be racist. Who has said that to you? I'm guessing it was a troll, like funjumper, that no one takes seriously anyway.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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I have no feelings regarding Obama
I only have opinions on what he has done and is doing

Sorry, but that doesn't ring true. You can't possibly think as much as you do about the man, and not have any feelings about him.so along with reading souls you know can tell how long someone thinks about something. You trully are at blessed person

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You can pick the reason I have been called a racists
Fuck man, you even implied it in your reply

Really, what exactly did I say that implied why you have been called a racist?

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And it has been said (to me) that I dislike Obama because he is black
What would call that?

If that were the reason you disliked Obama, then it would be racist. Who has said that to you? I'm guessing it was a troll, like funjumper, that no one takes seriously anyway.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

You're seriously expecting us to believe you don't think about Obama even though you make numerous posts about him every single day?

Okay, I guess you're story makes sense: everyone calls you a racist when you post every single day about the President, about whom you have no thoughts or feelings.Of course, the fact that no one has ever called you a racist, as far as I can tell, because you disagree with the President (about whom you never think) doesn't really matter.

Just drop the whole "they call me a racist when I disagree with Obama" strawman, please.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

What am I thinking and feeling right now?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

What am I thinking and feeling right now?

Probably wishing you paid a bit more attention in school.

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

There was a change made but I do not know when or what admin did it
Regardless
It is known to be untrue
If you know it is untrue yet one continues to spew it, they are lieing dont you think?

So (1) you still didn't answer the question**, and (2) how can a calculated number be untrue if the method by which it is calculated is described exactly?

It's not like claiming non-existent WMDs to justify an invasion.

** I'll help you out. The BLS changed the method in 1994. So ALL of Obama's numbers can be compared directly with all of GWB's numbers and most of Clinton's.

So you're telling us that GWB was a big liar.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DanG 1]

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What am I thinking and feeling right now?

You're thinking, "I'm so darn clever, I really got that DanG on the ropes now. I can keep this up all day, and once he gives up, I'll go back to playing the poor persecuted conservative."

- Dan G

[BIGUN 1,314]

Andy9o8

***I'm not sure I understand the "issue."

The issue is that once again Rush just wants to blindly Obama-bash, once again his failure to put any real thought process into it has been called out, and now he'll just keep doing his thing as long as other people are willing to keep engaging him.

Just came back and read the entire thread.

Wow.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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What am I thinking and feeling right now?

You're thinking, "I'm so darn clever, I really got that DanG on the ropes now. I can keep this up all day, and once he gives up, I'll go back to playing the poor persecuted conservative."

Hmm
You are not very good at this
You should stop trying

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kelpdiver 2]

rushmc

There was a change made but I do not know when or what admin did it

That would be Reagan. Once you've exhausted unemployment benefits, you're no longer unemployed as you obviously aren't looking for work.

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Regardless

yeah, yeah. Regardless, Obama is responsible for all that is wrong in the world. We know the drill.

[skypuppy 1]

billvon

Have you ever taken a step back and looked at yourself in a mirror? You are once again happy that America is doing worse than expected. Do you really want to be seen as someone who is anti-American-success? Is your hatred of Obama that strong that seeing Americans out of work makes you ecstatic?

I don't see anywhere where he says he's happy that murica is doing worse than expected. The fact remains that under Obama the statistics are being cooked to make the situation look better than is. That is a fact. Nothing to do with rush's attitude.

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[billvon 2,991]

>I have no feelings regarding Obama

Sep 2009: Obama has only himself and his in your face arogance to blame
Oct 2009: [Obama] is a fuck head after all
Oct 2009: Yes, I want him to fail
Oct 2009: (I hate the SOB Obama)
Jul 2011: And Obama has made it worse . . .Cut the budget and send a balanced budget amendment to the states so this fuck nuget can do this to us again

So he's a fuck head, you want him to fail and he's a 'fuck nuget' with 'in your face arogance' - but you have no feelings about him. Oh, and you hate him.

You're as consistent as FOX News.

[billvon 2,991]

>I don't see anywhere where he says he's happy that murica is doing worse than expected.

You can feel the glee. He's happy that he has a way to blame Obama for problems in the US. This is called schadenfreude - taking happiness in the misfortune of others - and is common within the far right wing.

You saw this happen right after Obama's inauguration. Within a few weeks, right here on this board, dozens of people (left and right alike) flip-flopped completely. Right wingers, previously intent on "proving" there was no recession, started crowing about how many people were losing their jobs. They'd bring up stat after stat, and as each indicator dropped they'd become more and more ebullient. "Look how much Obama SUCKS! Man, you Dems must feel like idiots! Ha ha ha."

And what happened here was, of course, replicated across the media.

[kallend 2,027]

skypuppy

***Have you ever taken a step back and looked at yourself in a mirror? You are once again happy that America is doing worse than expected. Do you really want to be seen as someone who is anti-American-success? Is your hatred of Obama that strong that seeing Americans out of work makes you ecstatic?

I don't see anywhere where he says he's happy that murica is doing worse than expected. The fact remains that under Obama the statistics are being cooked to make the situation look better than is. That is a fact. Nothing to do with rush's attitude.

The methodology is the just same as it was under GWB.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[skypuppy 1]

billvon

>I don't see anywhere where he says he's happy that murica is doing worse than expected.

You can feel the glee. He's happy that he has a way to blame Obama for problems in the US. This is called schadenfreude - taking happiness in the misfortune of others - and is common within the far right wing.

You saw this happen right after Obama's inauguration. Within a few weeks, right here on this board, dozens of people (left and right alike) flip-flopped completely. Right wingers, previously intent on "proving" there was no recession, started crowing about how many people were losing their jobs. They'd bring up stat after stat, and as each indicator dropped they'd become more and more ebullient. "Look how much Obama SUCKS! Man, you Dems must feel like idiots! Ha ha ha."

And what happened here was, of course, replicated across the media.

Ah that's it. "You can feel the glee." In other words -- it's all in YOUR mind...

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>I have no feelings regarding Obama

Sep 2009: Obama has only himself and his in your face arogance to blame
Oct 2009: [Obama] is a fuck head after all
Oct 2009: Yes, I want him to fail
Oct 2009: (I hate the SOB Obama)
Jul 2011: And Obama has made it worse . . .Cut the budget and send a balanced budget amendment to the states so this fuck nuget can do this to us again

So he's a fuck head, you want him to fail and he's a 'fuck nuget' with 'in your face arogance' - but you have no feelings about him. Oh, and you hate him.

You're as consistent as FOX News.

Oh Bill
Here is one of the threads thay you quote where I say I hate Obama
Seems you are pulling a Brian Williams
If anyone doubts that, just look at the thread

I hope your apology is better than Brian's

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3715272;search_string=hate%20obama%20sob;#3715272

Pure desperation on your part
I gotta wonder though, you didnt think I could use the search tool here?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 800]

My brain hurts when I try to read your posts.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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The fact remains that under Obama the statistics are being cooked to make the situation look better than is. That is a fact.

Yup, just like they were cooked under both Bushs and Clinton....probably before that too.

Yesterday the unemployment rate went up, while more jobs were being added.

The unemployment rate going up would actually be a good thing in this case, since that means people who previously had given up, are now back out looking for a job.

A simple number doesn't mean anything, without knowing what the methodology is.

[BIGUN 1,314]

skypuppy

The fact remains that under Obama the statistics are being cooked to make the situation look better than is. That is a fact. Nothing to do with rush's attitude.

Look, I've made it clear that I'm no fan of Obama, but that is no where near a fact.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[jimmytavino 16]

I pay attention as i go through my day to day world.... which Includes WORKING....
Hard work, for not such great compen$ation.....


Unemployment Numbers are Bullshit

and are a smokescreen designed to instill a "false sense of accomplishment "

The country is in Poor condition, when it comes to employment...

I have been suggesting for Decades.. that a SIMPLE POLL be conducted of ALL Adults,,, male & female of the ages of 18 to 58 and ONE simple question be asked.
" Do YOU Currently have a J O B of at least 32 hours per week " ??? Plain and simple..

I drive through my city and nearby towns and SEE a TON of people in the above mentioned age categories,,,, mostly Accomplishing Nothing, all day Long.. ( Loitering,,, Is NOT a job )

I would honestly state. that our rate of NON workers ( in those age categories ) is greater than 50 % !! hell maybe it's 70 %... Factoring IN everyone who NEVER had a Job... is Not Looking for a JOB, has been "laid OFF " from a job and Gave UP and who Has ZERO skills.. for acquiring a JOB..add in those on welfare and social services,,, ( who mistakenly THINK ,,, THAT is their Job ) and the numbers i mention COULD very WELL be accurate...

It's Ludicrous.... Within the city areas a TON of people do NOT work... hell many cannot even speak english, nor read & write..
It's a Sad SAD thing.....
Even in Upper crust neighborhoods where the "man of the house" is knocking down 100 K a year,, when THAT occurs, you can be damn sure that the missus is "coasting on his tailcoats " ,, and more concerned with getting her nails done and her Next tennis lesson, than she IS with Going to WORK....
Hell most these 'queen bees' no longer even Do House work.... Instead They have elevated themselves to some High society rank and therefore are able to have even housework, done by some "domestic" cleaning lady.. ( who is likely the ONLY worker in a family of 4 or 6 or More...)
So right there In THAT Upper middle class household the unemployment rate IS 50 %...The guy works the lady doesn't...

Yeah Yeah.. i KNOW that is NOT HOW the rate is calculated... and it has to do with "recently unemployed, re-acquiring a Job " etc etc Blah Blah BLAH !!!!..
Still the REALITY is waaaay different THan the Blather, we have been fed...

Accuracy, Honesty, TRUTH.... have been NOwhere to be seen for many MANY years now,,, It's ALL about spin doctoring, statistical manipulation, twisting of " data " and proliferation of Pure 100% Bullshit... in other words Business as usual for Government Agencies... tasked with determining these numbers...

Sorry to HAVE to break away.. BUt I have My WORK to get ON To..

jimmytavino.... paying State, federal, property, sales, and (duplicate since 1984 ) Social Security TAXES, since 1968....

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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Ahh yes
I forget you think you can look into others souls

So if hatred isn't right, how do you describe your feelings about Obama?

And I noticed you chose not to comment on the main point, namely that you are never called a racist because of your of Obama.

As I pointed out to Bill (from whom I am still waiting for an apology) you and others have been saying I hate Obama since at least 09
Case in point

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3715272;search_string=hate%20obama%20sob;#3715272


You cant make this stuff up!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln