catfishhunter 2 #76 February 26, 2015 jakee ****** Quote You show how little you know of the Koran and yes their are a billion not billions of muslims my bad. Their religion teaches them that they will be called upon to eliminate all infidels. This isn't something I made up. Will it be ISIS that brings about the end of the world? I don't know but for sure there are a billion muslims ready to cut your head off when their leaders all state it is time. Either you're being deliberately obtuse or you have some kind of autism that stops you from being able to relate to other people's thought processes. For the vast, vast majority of muslims it doesn't matter a tinker's cuss what's in the Koran, they are just normal people who have no intention of cutting anyone's head off. There are not one billion muslims ready to cut your head off and there never will be. It is a fantasy designed to justify your desire to see millions of innocent people burn. It's sick. So your saying the vast majority of Muslims do not believe in the Koran? I am sure that is news to them. Do you think it helps your case when you pretend to be a moron? Seriously, I don't get why you want people to think you don't understand the difference between believing in Allah and being willing to kill someone just because an Imam says so. Unless your entire SC persona is a long term trolling expedition. Your views are certainly absurd and evil enough to be satire, but I just don't detect any edge of irony Pretty sure that is a personal attack... Hey Billy...Oh yeah he is a likeminded liberal so that's ok.... MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #77 February 26, 2015 Stumpy You are making a big assumption that you actually can "finish this", which changes the whole equation. We could absolutely 'finish this' but the issue lies in collateral damage of innocent civilians. If we can come up with a smart bomb that only kills terrorists we'd be shitting in high cotton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #78 February 26, 2015 catfishhunterPretty sure that is a personal attack... Hey Billy...Oh yeah he is a likeminded liberal so that's ok.... I said I think you're pretending to be a moron. But if you are genuinely lacking in comprehension here then I'll take the ban for pointing it out. Doesn't seem like there's anything that could be said to you that could make you develop any morals anyway.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #79 February 26, 2015 way to take one for the team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #80 February 27, 2015 That is exactly right. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #81 February 27, 2015 jakee***Pretty sure that is a personal attack... Hey Billy...Oh yeah he is a likeminded liberal so that's ok.... I said I think you're pretending to be a moron. But if you are genuinely lacking in comprehension here then I'll take the ban for pointing it out. Doesn't seem like there's anything that could be said to you that could make you develop any morals anyway. LOL your such an easy target. You couldn't offend me if you tried but it is extremely funny how those that think like Billy get away with personal attacks over and over. Oh and WTF do you know about my morals and what do Morals have to do with killing those that ARE killing people that do not believe as they do? MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #82 February 27, 2015 catfishhunter******Pretty sure that is a personal attack... Hey Billy...Oh yeah he is a likeminded liberal so that's ok.... I said I think you're pretending to be a moron. But if you are genuinely lacking in comprehension here then I'll take the ban for pointing it out. Doesn't seem like there's anything that could be said to you that could make you develop any morals anyway. LOL your such an easy target. You couldn't offend me if you tried but it is extremely funny how those that think like Billy get away with personal attacks over and over. Oh and WTF do you know about my morals and what do Morals have to do with killing those that ARE killing people that do not believe as they do? If a dog is snarling and snapping and frothing at the mouth, failing to humanely euthanize it is immoral. Islam is the spiritual equivalent of rabies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #83 February 27, 2015 So can we put you down as agreeing with catfishhunter's plan of killing all the Muslims in order to stop ISIS? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #84 February 27, 2015 DanGSo can we put you down as agreeing with catfishhunter's plan of killing all the Muslims in order to stop ISIS? Too much like work. I just do not see how it's a problem if they see fit to kill each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #85 February 27, 2015 The mods here don't even defend each other when they are targets of repeated PA's, why would this forum be any different? I'm over the PA's here on the entire site. It's just childish, rude, and bullying. Maybe somebody will off themselves and the mods will start seeing it for what it is. Less and less time here, that's a positive thing for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #86 February 27, 2015 normiss The mods here don't even defend each other when they are targets of repeated PA's, why would this forum be any different? I'm over the PA's here on the entire site. It's just childish, rude, and bullying. Maybe somebody will off themselves and the mods will start seeing it for what it is. Less and less time here, that's a positive thing for me. Lt. Frank Drebin: Oh, it's all right. I'm sure that we can handle this situation maturely, just like the responsible adults that we are. Isn't that right, Mr... Poopy Pants? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #87 February 27, 2015 jakee***Pretty sure that is a personal attack... Hey Billy...Oh yeah he is a likeminded liberal so that's ok.... I said I think you're pretending to be a moron. But if you are genuinely lacking in comprehension here then I'll take the ban for pointing it out. Doesn't seem like there's anything that could be said to you that could make you develop any morals anyway. Here are some morals for you: While reading Akbari’s book, we came across a passage describing six principles in Islam that we thought might be particularly eye-opening for readers. These include: 1.Koffar (unbelievers) do not have a right to know what Islam teaches. 2.It is sinful for Muslims to take non-Muslims as friends or protectors unless it is for the purpose of using the non-Muslims to accomplish the goals of Islam. It is not a sin if Muslims “make taqiyya” – use deception – to protect themselves or Islam. 3.Muslims must lie if it is the only way to achieve an obligatory goal of Islam, especially the maqasid al-sharia, the ultimate goal. 4.The most important goal Muslims must achieve is to spread deen, the worship of Allah through Islam. 5.It is sinful for Muslims to allow non-Muslims to look down on Muslims or Islam in any way. 6.Finally, the purpose of ghayra violence [up to and including honor killing] is to al-amr bi al-ma’ruf wa al-nahy ‘an al-munkar – to enjoin good and forbid evil as defined by the moral rules of sharia. Muslims know that non-Muslims do not follow the moral rules of sharia, they follow the moral provisions of their religion or their law. Muslims also know non-Muslims do not understand the moral provisions of sharia, because understanding sharia moral provisions requires understanding the maqasid al-sharia, the goals of Islam. It does not benefit Muslims to inform non-Muslims of the maqasid so they could understand sharia because the ultimate goal of Islam is to contain, subjugate and eliminate all other religions so that all people everywhere follow Islam. Revealing this goal would only increase opposition among the most wicked of all creatures, those who resist Islam. It follows it is not in the interest of Muslims to reveal Islam’s connection to ghayra violence. To reveal this connection would alert non-Muslims to disparage Islam or Muslims and, at worst, might stimulate non-Muslims to resist Islam. The Muslims’ best course of action – the way that minimizes opposition to the spread of deen – is to deceive non-Muslims into believing Muslims follow the same moral ideas they follow. Only in that way will Islam not appear to threaten the moral and political order of koffar society. Our conclusion is that deceiving non-Muslims about Islam’s connection to ghayra violence is obligatory, so non-Muslims will not perceive the difference between their morality and sharia and threaten the spread of deen. Good news again for our Muslim spokespeople! But of course, they knew this all the time. Now you do, too. Be sure to check out our full in-depth with Mr. Akbari below: http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2015/02/27/6-eye-opening-things-you-might-not-have-known-about-islam-from-a-top-shariah-lawyer/ MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #88 February 27, 2015 QuoteYou couldn't offend me if you tried I'm not trying. I'm just telling you how it is. QuoteOh and WTF do you know about my morals and what do Morals have to do with killing those that ARE killing people that do not believe as they do? Unless you're trolling, I know your lack of morality on this subject. You want to kill millions of people who aren't killing anyone else and whose only crime is to live in a different country than you - and you don't even understand why that might be considered wrong, much less evil. Which it is.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #89 February 27, 2015 QuoteHere are some morals for you: While reading Akbari’s book, we came across a passage describing six principles in Islam that we thought might be particularly eye-opening for readers. These include: And of course you think that every self declared muslim believes in and follows those principles. Which shows you to be mind bogglingly out of touch with reality.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #90 February 27, 2015 Quote It does not benefit Muslims to inform non-Muslims of the maqasid so they could understand sharia because the ultimate goal of Islam is to contain, subjugate and eliminate all other religions so that all people everywhere follow Islam. Does anybody have a problem with this? If this statement is truly being taught, then yes, I do have a problem. I'm a live and let live kind of guy. Let me live my life the way I want to and I don't have a problem with you. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #91 February 27, 2015 Spreading itself is the goal of every religion. Islam is no different. What is different is that some barbarians are using the spread of Islam as an excuse to extend their own power. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #92 February 27, 2015 QuoteI just do not see how it's a problem if they see fit to kill each other. If ISIS contented itself to just kill Al Qaeda, then I'd be fine with it, too. Unfortunately, that's not reality. I have a problem with ISIS killing innocent people, even if they are Muslims. Do you think the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #93 February 27, 2015 BillyVance Quote It does not benefit Muslims to inform non-Muslims of the maqasid so they could understand sharia because the ultimate goal of Islam is to contain, subjugate and eliminate all other religions so that all people everywhere follow Islam. Does anybody have a problem with this? If this statement is truly being taught, then yes, I do have a problem. I'm a live and let live kind of guy. Let me live my life the way I want to and I don't have a problem with you. There is no ultimate goal of Islam in the same way there's no ultimate goal of Christianity. First, they're too diverse to talk in such absolutes and second, most followers of either don't really give enough of a shit to get involved with any sort of 'mission' anyway. That said, the bolded part is obviously the ultimate goal of some muslims, and yes, I have a huge problem with those people.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #94 February 27, 2015 jakee *** Quote It does not benefit Muslims to inform non-Muslims of the maqasid so they could understand sharia because the ultimate goal of Islam is to contain, subjugate and eliminate all other religions so that all people everywhere follow Islam. Does anybody have a problem with this? If this statement is truly being taught, then yes, I do have a problem. I'm a live and let live kind of guy. Let me live my life the way I want to and I don't have a problem with you. There is no ultimate goal of Islam in the same way there's no ultimate goal of Christianity. First, they're too diverse to talk in such absolutes and second, most followers of either don't really give enough of a shit to get involved with any sort of 'mission' anyway. That said, the bolded part is obviously the ultimate goal of some muslims, and yes, I have a huge problem with those people. It is not the goal of 'muslims' it is the goal of ISLAM. Your disdain is keeping your brain from understanding so logic escapes you. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #95 February 27, 2015 catfishhunterIt is not the goal of 'muslims' it is the goal of ISLAM. A) Who cares? You can't murder Islam, but you do want to murder muslims. B) You missed the bit where I said there is no goal of Islam. Islam is not a unified religion. There are only the goals of individual muslims, mosques and sects. Some of those are bad, some good, some indifferent.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #96 February 27, 2015 Sounds just like christianity when you describe it that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #97 February 27, 2015 Who'da thunk it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #98 February 27, 2015 QuoteIt is not the goal of 'muslims' it is the goal of ISLAM. Thereby demonstrating that you wouldn't know the ultimate goal of Islam if you tripped over it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #99 February 27, 2015 Andy9o8QuoteIt is not the goal of 'muslims' it is the goal of ISLAM. Thereby demonstrating that you wouldn't know the ultimate goal of Islam if you tripped over it. Oh please enlighten us then..Just what is the ultimate goal of islam. Did they teach you that in scum suck...I mean Law school? MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #100 February 27, 2015 DanGQuoteI just do not see how it's a problem if they see fit to kill each other. If ISIS contented itself to just kill Al Qaeda, then I'd be fine with it, too. Unfortunately, that's not reality. I have a problem with ISIS killing innocent people, even if they are Muslims. Do you think the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim? Hey, if the whole goal is to get to Paradise, good for them - go for it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
