turtlespeed 220 #1 February 26, 2015 Definitely not our finest moment in history. The article does have a point. http://qz.com/342100/why-dont-americans-realize-isis-executions-look-awfully-like-the-thousands-of-lynchings-that-happened-on-their-soil/I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #2 February 26, 2015 images.dailykos.com/images/127495/large/lynching-omaha-nebraska-sept-29-1919.jpg?1423083729 Reposted from the King Abdullah thread from 2 weeks ago.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #3 February 26, 2015 kallend images.dailykos.com/images/127495/large/lynching-omaha-nebraska-sept-29-1919.jpg?1423083729 Reposted from the King Abdullah thread from 2 weeks ago. A little warning would have been nice.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunWatcher 0 #4 February 27, 2015 turtlespeedThe article does have a point. http://qz.com/342100/why-dont-americans-realize-isis-executions-look-awfully-like-the-thousands-of-lynchings-that-happened-on-their-soil/ Re: "Why don’t Americans realize ISIL executions look awfully like the thousands of lynchings that happened on their soil?" Here is why they are not alike. In America, lynching was against the law, and those who did it were criminals. If and when the perpetrators were caught by the government, they were imprisoned for their crimes. ISIS on the other hand, IS the government, and they approve of mass murder in the name of their law, and consider it perfectly legal. The perpetrators are celebrated as heroes. See any difference between the two? Shame of this author for trying to equate the two as equal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #5 February 27, 2015 No, lynchers were not punished much of the time. Just consider the church bombing in 1963, and the fact that it took nearly 15 years just for the first conviction, and nearly 40 for the other two. It wasn't because no one knew and it was a mystery (except for the feds -- it took the feds to prosecute). And ISIL has declared themselves as the government; that's not exactly the same thing as being a legitimate government. The Klan was a terrorist organization (thanks for pointing that out, Turtle); it had defacto acceptance by virtue of the fact that participants were often also members of law enforcement. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 February 27, 2015 It was wrong here and then. It is wrong now and there. Period My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #7 February 27, 2015 *** Haha, yeah. If the Feds managed to overcome the obstructions of local law enforcement and get a prosecution.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #8 February 27, 2015 SunWatcher***The article does have a point. http://qz.com/342100/why-dont-americans-realize-isis-executions-look-awfully-like-the-thousands-of-lynchings-that-happened-on-their-soil/ Re: "Why don’t Americans realize ISIL executions look awfully like the thousands of lynchings that happened on their soil?" Here is why they are not alike. In America, lynching was against the law, and those who did it were criminals. If and when the perpetrators were caught by the government, they were imprisoned for their crimes. ISIS on the other hand, IS the government, and they approve of mass murder in the name of their law, and consider it perfectly legal. The perpetrators are celebrated as heroes. See any difference between the two? Shame of this author for trying to equate the two as equal. Wow, thta sounds almost like you are defending the klan. That aside, ISIL is not the government, anymore than I am if I take over a few ammo dumps in Texas and declare my group the rulers of Texas. The klan (at least then) and ISIL are very alike in that they are both terrorist organizations, they are religious based, and have a "no tolerance - kill" agenda. They may not be as bad now, I really don't know. I don't understand why you wish to view this differently.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunWatcher 0 #9 February 27, 2015 turtlespeedWow, thta sounds almost like you are defending the klan. That aside, ISIL is not the government, anymore than I am if I take over a few ammo dumps in Texas and declare my group the rulers of Texas. The klan (at least then) and ISIL are very alike in that they are both terrorist organizations, they are religious based, and have a "no tolerance - kill" agenda. They may not be as bad now, I really don't know. I don't understand why you wish to view this differently. Not defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #10 February 27, 2015 SunWatcher***Wow, thta sounds almost like you are defending the klan. That aside, ISIL is not the government, anymore than I am if I take over a few ammo dumps in Texas and declare my group the rulers of Texas. The klan (at least then) and ISIL are very alike in that they are both terrorist organizations, they are religious based, and have a "no tolerance - kill" agenda. They may not be as bad now, I really don't know. I don't understand why you wish to view this differently. Not defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Nonsense. Declaring yourself to be a government of a new nation state does not make you a government of a nation state.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 February 27, 2015 kallend******Wow, thta sounds almost like you are defending the klan. That aside, ISIL is not the government, anymore than I am if I take over a few ammo dumps in Texas and declare my group the rulers of Texas. The klan (at least then) and ISIL are very alike in that they are both terrorist organizations, they are religious based, and have a "no tolerance - kill" agenda. They may not be as bad now, I really don't know. I don't understand why you wish to view this differently. Not defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Nonsense. Declaring yourself to be a government of a new nation state does not make you a government of a nation state. He's said it twice now, he's obviously just going to keep repeating it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #12 February 27, 2015 kallend ******Wow, thta sounds almost like you are defending the klan. That aside, ISIL is not the government, anymore than I am if I take over a few ammo dumps in Texas and declare my group the rulers of Texas. The klan (at least then) and ISIL are very alike in that they are both terrorist organizations, they are religious based, and have a "no tolerance - kill" agenda. They may not be as bad now, I really don't know. I don't understand why you wish to view this differently. Not defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Nonsense. Declaring yourself to be a government of a new nation state does not make you a government of a nation state. It worked for Casto the last 56 years. But then Cuba has had free elections for all those years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #13 February 27, 2015 SunWatcherNot defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Hey, the Klan is quite clear that they are simply the oldest 'civil rights organization' in the US of A. It has much more validity than describing islam as a 'religion of peace' (which, admittedly, isn't saying much...). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #14 February 27, 2015 winsor***Not defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Hey, the Klan is quite clear that they are simply the oldest 'civil rights organization' in the US of A. It has much more validity than describing islam as a 'religion of peace' (which, admittedly, isn't saying much...). When did isil say they were part of a religion of peace?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #15 February 27, 2015 SunWatcherNot defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Ok then. What about the Confederacy?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunWatcher 0 #16 February 27, 2015 jakee***Not defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Ok then. What about the Confederacy? They weren't massacring innocent civilians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #17 February 27, 2015 SunWatcher******Not defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Ok then. What about the Confederacy? They weren't massacring innocent civilians. Yes they were. The Confederacy defended the rights of slave owners to imprison, torture and murder innocent civilians in whatever way they pleased.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #18 February 27, 2015 John? Was that you that sent me the PM???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #19 February 27, 2015 wayneflorida*********Wow, thta sounds almost like you are defending the klan. That aside, ISIL is not the government, anymore than I am if I take over a few ammo dumps in Texas and declare my group the rulers of Texas. The klan (at least then) and ISIL are very alike in that they are both terrorist organizations, they are religious based, and have a "no tolerance - kill" agenda. They may not be as bad now, I really don't know. I don't understand why you wish to view this differently. Not defending the Klan. They were terrorists just like ISIS. The difference is, the Klan were outlaws within their country. ISIS, on the other hand, established their own "country" and they are the rulers and law-makers of that country. The Klan was acting contrary to the law, and ISIS thinks that mass-murder is okay within the law. Nonsense. Declaring yourself to be a government of a new nation state does not make you a government of a nation state. It worked for Casto the last 56 years. Doesn't in any way invalidate my statement. After all, a few people who buy lottery tickets win the lottery, but buying a lottery ticket doesn't make you a winner.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #20 February 28, 2015 normiss John? Was that you that sent me the PM???? Took you that long to figure out who he was?"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
