SunWatcher 0 #1 February 27, 2015 "Congress launches Medal of Honor campaign for ‘American Sniper’ Chris Kyle" "A Texas congressman introduced a bill Thursday that would ask the president to posthumously award the Medal of Honor to Chris Kyle, a Navy SEAL whose life was chronicled in the movie “American Sniper.” Rep. Roger Williams, Texas Republican, said Kyle should receive the Medal of Honor for his actions during Operation Iraqi Freedom that saved “countless American lives.” Story: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/26/roger-williams-wants-medal-honor-chris-kyle-americ/?_sm_au_=iMVPTn3r7ffrnQ3N Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2 February 27, 2015 As much as I admire the man, I have seen no evidence justifying the award of the MOH.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #3 February 27, 2015 QuoteAs much as I admire the man, I have seen no evidence justifying the award of the MOH. Agree - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 February 27, 2015 SunWatcher"Congress launches Medal of Honor campaign for ‘American Sniper’ Chris Kyle" so the movie comes out and this happens NFL game has deflated balls, so congress wants to pass a law there etc etc etc the quote should be "Shameless politician sees that a current Hollywood film is attracting a ton of attention and makes a big gesture to ingratiate himself to mindless movie goers" being the subject of a movie shouldn't be rationalization for the MOH if his actions warranted it, it shouldn't take a movie to get the works in motion if that's what it takes, then it's another symptom of a failed social and political system Freakin' pols and half the populace probably even think that Kyle = Bradley Cooper for that matter. I'd like to test that with the politician with a line up of ten pictures and see if he could pick out Kyle without help from a popularity poll and 3 assistants ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 February 27, 2015 SunWatcher"Congress launches Medal of Honor campaign for ‘American Sniper’ Chris Kyle" "A Texas congressman introduced a bill Thursday that would ask the president to posthumously award the Medal of Honor to ... I'm almost 100% certain that's not how it works. The "Texas congressman" may think so, but I'm pretty sure it's not. I'm fairly certain there is more to it than simply asking the President to do it. There would absolutely be a vetting process. It's not something that just happens "because."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #6 February 27, 2015 Agree.... While I admire and respect his service; awarding him the CMOH under these conditions would, IMHO, be not only disrespectful but also insulting to previous recipients.Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #7 February 27, 2015 I am sure from all that I have learned of the Man he wouldn't accept it if he was alive. He did not "earn" it. He did his Job. Nothing more nothing less and he didn't ask for recognition the military heaped it upon him. He did not call himself the most deadly sniper. The military outed him and he made the best of it and tried to use that notoriety to help others which cost him and his friend their lives. While he should be remembered he didn't earn the medal of honor.. MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 February 27, 2015 Far as I know, no. He did his job the best he could, there's no doubt of that. What the CMOH is awarded for is for heroic actions of bravery beyond what any soldier would be expected to perform in battle in the face of certain death or crippling injuries."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #9 February 27, 2015 quade***"Congress launches Medal of Honor campaign for ‘American Sniper’ Chris Kyle" "A Texas congressman introduced a bill Thursday that would ask the president to posthumously award the Medal of Honor to ... I'm almost 100% certain that's not how it works. The "Texas congressman" may think so, but I'm pretty sure it's not. I'm fairly certain there is more to it than simply asking the President to do it. There would absolutely be a vetting process. It's not something that just happens "because." Of course that's not how it works... But in Kyle's home state, the congressman can't loose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,300 #10 February 28, 2015 quade***"Congress launches Medal of Honor campaign for ‘American Sniper’ Chris Kyle" "A Texas congressman introduced a bill Thursday that would ask the president to posthumously award the Medal of Honor to ... I'm almost 100% certain that's not how it works. The "Texas congressman" may think so, but I'm pretty sure it's not. I'm fairly certain there is more to it than simply asking the President to do it. There would absolutely be a vetting process. It's not something that just happens "because." QuoteThe first and most common is nomination and approval through the chain of command of the service member. The second method is nomination by a member of the U.S. Congress, generally at the request of a constituent, and the subsequent approval via a special Act of Congress. In both cases, the Medal of Honor is presented by the President on behalf of, and in the name of, the Congress. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_HonorNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 1 #11 March 1, 2015 If he wasn't being considered before, he should not be considered now. He hasn't done anything since he died except be the subject of a movie. A good movie, a good man and a hell of a sailor but not enough for the "button".Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunWatcher 0 #12 March 1, 2015 We're hearing a lot of justifications from the "No" voters. How about we hear from some of the four people who have voted "Yes"? Tell us why you think the MOH is justified for Kyle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #13 March 1, 2015 I like threads that make me a do a little bit of research. I never knew the one single act during the Vietnam war to most likely win you the MOH... Throwing yourself on a live grenade to save others. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Medal_of_Honor_recipients_for_the_Vietnam_War Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #14 March 2, 2015 Maybe they can give him a Presidential Medal of Honor. they'll give that to just about anyone it's like a Grammy ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 March 2, 2015 DanGQuoteAs much as I admire the man, I have seen no evidence justifying the award of the MOH. Agree Why ? Obama got the Nobel Peace prize"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #16 March 2, 2015 QuoteWhy ? Obama got the Nobel Peace prize I don't think the MOH should be a popularity contest. If the Nodel Committee wants their prize to be a popularity contest, that's fine for them, I don't really care. Do you think Kyle earned the MOH? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #17 March 2, 2015 The criteria for the Medal of Honor are rigid, and should not be a tiny bit more flexible. There is an apocryphal case of a Purple Heart being awarded for a food fight ('shell fragment in eye'), the Silver Star being awarded to Lyndon Johnson for being a passenger aboard a bomber that never got within range of Japanese forces, and so forth. "Conspicuous gallantry, intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service" is no small matter. I know of nothing in Chris Kyles background that would even qualify him for the DSC, which does not detract from his accomplishments one iota. MOH citations are all to often posthumous, and are typically stunning. Maybe a Nobel Prize is in order on the basis of how many mujaheddin he euthanized. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 March 2, 2015 DanGQuoteWhy ? Obama got the Nobel Peace prize I don't think the MOH should be a popularity contest. If the Nodel Committee wants their prize to be a popularity contest, that's fine for them, I don't really care. Do you think Kyle earned the MOH? I don't think he earned the Medal of Honor. Period. Giving Chris Kyle the CMH is like naming a lcombat ship after, say, Gabby Giffords. It's more about PR than tradition or honor. Think of Mark Kelly, her husband. Navy pilot and astronaut who put his ass on the line repeatedly and she gets. Ship named after her. Giving this stuff out as PR seems to be the way things are going. What's next? Medal of Honor sponsored by...? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #19 March 2, 2015 DanG Do you think Kyle earned the MOH? No do you think Obama earned the Nobel Peace Prize?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #20 March 2, 2015 rushmc*** Do you think Kyle earned the MOH? No do you think Obama earned the Nobel Peace Prize? Not me."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #21 March 2, 2015 Quotedo you think Obama earned the Nobel Peace Prize? No. Does every thread have to turn in an Obama thread? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 March 2, 2015 DanGQuotedo you think Obama earned the Nobel Peace Prize? No. Does every thread have to turn in an Obama thread? No"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #23 March 2, 2015 In a world where Birdman can beat Boyhood for the Best Picture Oscar, anything can happen Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #24 March 2, 2015 wmw999 In a world where Birdman can beat Boyhood for the Best Picture Oscar, anything can happen Wendy P. You got that right"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #25 March 2, 2015 I thought they were both good, but Boyhood was better. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
