grue 1 #26 March 10, 2015 turtlespeedI see no justification whatsoever of any of the senators being traitors. What evidence do you have that you can seriously make this claim. Those are pretty serious charges. I dunno about successfully prosecuting for treason, but I'd get a huge, huge laugh out of all of them being charged with violating the Logan Act.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #27 March 10, 2015 billvon>I see no justification whatsoever of any of the senators being traitors. What >evidence do you have that you can seriously make this claim. =========== Aid and Comfort To render assistance or counsel. Any act that deliberately strengthens or tends to strengthen enemies of the United States, or that weakens or tends to weaken the power of the United States to resist and attack such enemies is characterized as aid and comfort. Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant. =========== One might be able to argue with some success that giving military aid to Egypt, Saudi, Israel, etc would fall under that. None of them are "friends" by any sane definition of the word, even if they're not true enemies.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #28 March 10, 2015 Those Democrats have more guts and loyalty than those you are trying to defend!! "On Tuesday, Democrats took to the Senate floor to denounce the letter to Iran. Noting that she had opposed the war in Iraq under President George W. Bush, Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, her voice shaking with rage, said, “I never would have sent a letter to Saddam Hussein.” rushmcMake sure you save enough rope to hang these Democrates right along side those you post about Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 March 10, 2015 mpohl Those Democrats have more guts and loyalty than those you are trying to defend!! "On Tuesday, Democrats took to the Senate floor to denounce the letter to Iran. Noting that she had opposed the war in Iraq under President George W. Bush, Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, her voice shaking with rage, said, “I never would have sent a letter to Saddam Hussein.” ***Make sure you save enough rope to hang these Democrates right along side those you post about I have not defended anybody Gotta admit though, you sure are selective Painfully so..."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #30 March 10, 2015 Driver1 ************ And a Freshman senator lead the charge. What's next? Jeebus! I hope a freshman senator doesn't get elected as POTUS. We would be in a world of hurt if that ever happened. You do know the meaning of "freshman", don't you? The United States Senate career of Barack Obama began on January 4, 2005 and ended on November 16, 2008. How many 6 year terms do you think he served in those 4 years? You and I have a different view of the term Freshman. BAM! Wow, bam right back atcha! The utter brilliance of Driver1's response aside, and to answer airdvr's post on point, let's consider this: Nixon spent 5 years in the US House & 2 years in the Senate (7 years total elected government service) before being elected Vice President at age 39, a hearbeat away from Eisenhower, whose heartbeat was almost stopped by a heart attack during his first term. He was 47 the first time he ran for president in 1960. JFK spent 5 years in the House & 8 years in the Senate (13 years total) before being elected President at age 43. Theodore Roosevelt spent 5 years in elective offices plus a few years in various appointed offices before being elected Vice President at age 42; he was still 42 when he succeeded to the presidency. Now let's compare. Obama spent 9 years in the state Senate and 3 years in the US Senate (12 years total) before being elected President at age 47. If that's your definition of freshman, then that's on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #31 March 10, 2015 mpohl Those Democrats have more guts and loyalty than those you are trying to defend!! "On Tuesday, Democrats took to the Senate floor to denounce the letter to Iran. Noting that she had opposed the war in Iraq under President George W. Bush, Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, her voice shaking with rage, said, “I never would have sent a letter to Saddam Hussein.” ***Make sure you save enough rope to hang these Democrates right along side those you post about You named one... you only need to name 46 more. Starting... NOW... Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #32 March 10, 2015 Each and every senator who did not sign the letter. And that includes seven GOP Senators. masterrig*** Those Democrats have more guts and loyalty than those you are trying to defend!! "On Tuesday, Democrats took to the Senate floor to denounce the letter to Iran. Noting that she had opposed the war in Iraq under President George W. Bush, Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, her voice shaking with rage, said, “I never would have sent a letter to Saddam Hussein.” ***Make sure you save enough rope to hang these Democrates right along side those you post about You named one... you only need to name 46 more. Starting... NOW... Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #33 March 10, 2015 mpohl Each and every senator who did not sign the letter. And that includes seven GOP Senators. ****** Those Democrats have more guts and loyalty than those you are trying to defend!! "On Tuesday, Democrats took to the Senate floor to denounce the letter to Iran. Noting that she had opposed the war in Iraq under President George W. Bush, Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, her voice shaking with rage, said, “I never would have sent a letter to Saddam Hussein.” ***Make sure you save enough rope to hang these Democrates right along side those you post about You named one... you only need to name 46 more. Starting... NOW... Chuck You're dodging... Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #34 March 10, 2015 mpohl Each and every senator who did not sign the letter. And that includes seven GOP Senators. ****** Those Democrats have more guts and loyalty than those you are trying to defend!! "On Tuesday, Democrats took to the Senate floor to denounce the letter to Iran. Noting that she had opposed the war in Iraq under President George W. Bush, Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, her voice shaking with rage, said, “I never would have sent a letter to Saddam Hussein.” ***Make sure you save enough rope to hang these Democrates right along side those you post about You named one... you only need to name 46 more. Starting... NOW... Chuck Obviously, you're not following Trey Gowdy! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #35 March 10, 2015 rushmcMake sure you save enough rope to hang these Democrates right along side those you post about Democrates? It would be a waste of time hanging him, he's been dead some 2,000 years.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #36 March 10, 2015 kallend***Make sure you save enough rope to hang these Democrates right along side those you post about Democrates? It would be a waste of time hanging him, he's been dead some 2,000 years. Well then, dig his bones up and hang him again!There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #37 March 10, 2015 QuoteNixon spent 5 years in the US House & 2 years in the Senate (7 years total elected government service) before being elected Vice President at age 39, a hearbeat away from Eisenhower, whose heartbeat was almost stopped by a heart attack during his first term. He was 47 the first time he ran for president in 1960. Obama spent 9 years in the state Senate and 3 years in the US Senate (12 years total) before being elected President at age 47. If that's your definition of freshman, then that's on you. Andy908: Obama worse than Nixon!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #38 March 10, 2015 Spoken like a true conservative. 2,000 years behind the times! Driver1 Well then, dig his bones up and hang him again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #39 March 10, 2015 jakee Quote Nixon spent 5 years in the US House & 2 years in the Senate (7 years total elected government service) before being elected Vice President at age 39, a hearbeat away from Eisenhower, whose heartbeat was almost stopped by a heart attack during his first term. He was 47 the first time he ran for president in 1960. Obama spent 9 years in the state Senate and 3 years in the US Senate (12 years total) before being elected President at age 47. If that's your definition of freshman, then that's on you. Andy908: Obama worse than Nixon! You might consider the fact that Obama got his political feet wet in Illinois. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #40 March 10, 2015 masterrig *** Quote Nixon spent 5 years in the US House & 2 years in the Senate (7 years total elected government service) before being elected Vice President at age 39, a hearbeat away from Eisenhower, whose heartbeat was almost stopped by a heart attack during his first term. He was 47 the first time he ran for president in 1960. Obama spent 9 years in the state Senate and 3 years in the US Senate (12 years total) before being elected President at age 47. If that's your definition of freshman, then that's on you. Andy908: Obama worse than Nixon! You might consider the fact that Obama got his political feet wet in Illinois. Chuck From Chicago, even! One of the worst politically corrupted cities in America and the worst gun violence even! There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #41 March 10, 2015 Driver1 ****** Quote Nixon spent 5 years in the US House & 2 years in the Senate (7 years total elected government service) before being elected Vice President at age 39, a hearbeat away from Eisenhower, whose heartbeat was almost stopped by a heart attack during his first term. He was 47 the first time he ran for president in 1960. Obama spent 9 years in the state Senate and 3 years in the US Senate (12 years total) before being elected President at age 47. If that's your definition of freshman, then that's on you. Andy908: Obama worse than Nixon! You might consider the fact that Obama got his political feet wet in Illinois. Chuck From Chicago, even! One of the worst politically corrupted cities in America and the worst gun violence even! First part - subjective. Second part - not even close to being true. But hey, it makes a nice soundbite so you carry on.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #42 March 10, 2015 Driver1 ****** Quote Nixon spent 5 years in the US House & 2 years in the Senate (7 years total elected government service) before being elected Vice President at age 39, a hearbeat away from Eisenhower, whose heartbeat was almost stopped by a heart attack during his first term. He was 47 the first time he ran for president in 1960. Obama spent 9 years in the state Senate and 3 years in the US Senate (12 years total) before being elected President at age 47. If that's your definition of freshman, then that's on you. Andy908: Obama worse than Nixon! You might consider the fact that Obama got his political feet wet in Illinois. Chuck From Chicago, even! One of the worst politically corrupted cities in America and the worst gun violence even! Which dates back probably before prohibition! Also, some of the people he associated with and some, he still associates with. One of his 'advisors' is Al Sharpton! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #43 March 11, 2015 masterrig ********* Quote Nixon spent 5 years in the US House & 2 years in the Senate (7 years total elected government service) before being elected Vice President at age 39, a hearbeat away from Eisenhower, whose heartbeat was almost stopped by a heart attack during his first term. He was 47 the first time he ran for president in 1960. Obama spent 9 years in the state Senate and 3 years in the US Senate (12 years total) before being elected President at age 47. If that's your definition of freshman, then that's on you. Andy908: Obama worse than Nixon! You might consider the fact that Obama got his political feet wet in Illinois. Chuck From Chicago, even! One of the worst politically corrupted cities in America and the worst gun violence even! Which dates back probably before prohibition! Also, some of the people he associated with and some, he still associates with. One of his 'advisors' is Al Sharpton! Chuck You forgot that nutbag anti-American ranting pastor Jeremiah Wright. Hell, even Obama tried to distance himself from Wright, but some of us saw through that bullshit.There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #44 March 11, 2015 Driver1 You forgot that nutbag anti-American ranting pastor Jeremiah Wright. Hell, even Obama tried to distance himself from Wright, but some of us saw through that bullshit. Wait a minute. He's a Muslim, isn't he? Why would he listen to a pastor if he's a Muslim? "There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #45 March 11, 2015 Driver1 ************ Quote Nixon spent 5 years in the US House & 2 years in the Senate (7 years total elected government service) before being elected Vice President at age 39, a hearbeat away from Eisenhower, whose heartbeat was almost stopped by a heart attack during his first term. He was 47 the first time he ran for president in 1960. Obama spent 9 years in the state Senate and 3 years in the US Senate (12 years total) before being elected President at age 47. If that's your definition of freshman, then that's on you. Andy908: Obama worse than Nixon! You might consider the fact that Obama got his political feet wet in Illinois. Chuck From Chicago, even! One of the worst politically corrupted cities in America and the worst gun violence even! Which dates back probably before prohibition! Also, some of the people he associated with and some, he still associates with. One of his 'advisors' is Al Sharpton! Chuck You forgot that nutbag anti-American ranting pastor Jeremiah Wright. Hell, even Obama tried to distance himself from Wright, but some of us saw through that bullshit. How could I forget Wright? I appreciate your pointing that out. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #46 March 11, 2015 wolfriverjoe *** You forgot that nutbag anti-American ranting pastor Jeremiah Wright. Hell, even Obama tried to distance himself from Wright, but some of us saw through that bullshit. Wait a minute. He's a Muslim, isn't he? Why would he listen to a pastor if he's a Muslim? That doesn't size-up. He's up to something! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #47 March 11, 2015 wolfriverjoe *** You forgot that nutbag anti-American ranting pastor Jeremiah Wright. Hell, even Obama tried to distance himself from Wright, but some of us saw through that bullshit. Wait a minute. He's a Muslim, isn't he? Why would he listen to a pastor if he's a Muslim? Good catch! He's gotta cover his tracks somehow! Muslims and Wright have something in common. They both hate what the United States have done and/or stands for.There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #48 March 11, 2015 mpohl Logan Act, which prohibits American citizens from communicating with foreign governments to conduct their own foreign policy. ***I see no justification whatsoever of any of the senators being traitors. What evidence do you have that you can seriously make this claim. Those are pretty serious charges. The Logan Act was enacted in what, 1799? And hasn't been successfully enforced since what 1803?? Please do try again and learn your fucking history. You are clueless. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-senators-probably-broke-law-with-iran-letter/ar-AA9BIdIThere will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #49 March 11, 2015 Driver1 From Chicago, even! One of the worst politically corrupted cities in America and the worst gun violence even! False. Chicago doesn't even make the top 20 in terms of gun crimes per 100,000 population. Memphis, Miami, Atlanta, St. Louis, KC, Baltimore, Detroit, Birmingham... all have higher rates.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #50 March 11, 2015 wolfriverjoe *** You forgot that nutbag anti-American ranting pastor Jeremiah Wright. Hell, even Obama tried to distance himself from Wright, but some of us saw through that bullshit. Wait a minute. He's a Muslim, isn't he? Why would he listen to a pastor if he's a Muslim? Well, he's Kenyan so he probably doesn't know any better.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites