kallend 2,027 #1 April 3, 2015 www.cnn.com/2015/04/03/us/alabama-death-row-inmate/ "Alabama inmate to be freed after 30 years on death row"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #2 April 3, 2015 and this (and the numerous other stories like this one) is the reason I have done a 180 on my support of the death penalty how many have been put to death that were not guilty of the crime they were convicted forYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #3 April 3, 2015 On the flip side how many have been caught stone cold guilty by half a dozen unbeatable sources of evidence but continue to soak up millions of tax payers dollars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #4 April 3, 2015 cvfd1399On the flip side how many have been caught stone cold guilty by half a dozen unbeatable sources of evidence but continue to soak up millions of tax payers dollars. Yes, some people do have a mercenary view of ethics. Way to keep your eye on the bottom line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 April 3, 2015 Rick and this (and the numerous other stories like this one) is the reason I have done a 180 on my support of the death penalty how many have been put to death that were not guilty of the crime they were convicted for +1 I grew up in a VERY eye for an eye world. But after seeing our injustice system in action when you have political motivations of political judges and persecutors, LEO's who are just too lazy to do anything other than fix on a plausible set of evidence and suppress anything else so they can get a quick clearance. And the rise of Corporate prison system which seeks to hold anyone in its clutches they can by whatever means they can for as long as they can....including some kid with a small quantity of pot turned into a lifer for that... The War on Drugs has destroyed any semblance of Protect and serve. I do not want to give our "government" the carte blanche ability to murder its citizens as it has become in the last 30 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #6 April 3, 2015 cvfd1399On the flip side how many have been caught stone cold guilty by half a dozen unbeatable sources of evidence but continue to soak up millions of tax payers dollars. Clearly saving money is more important to you than killing innocent people.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #7 April 3, 2015 cvfd1399 On the flip side how many have been caught stone cold guilty by half a dozen unbeatable sources of evidence but continue to soak up millions of tax payers dollars. If you weren't trying to kill 'em it wouldn't be as expensive. Win win for abolitionDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #8 April 3, 2015 Interesting thing the guy said "Miscarriage of justice not just for myself but for the victim's families". Seems like a lot of time the adversarial nature of criminal trials and maybe the political side of the prosecutor's office means that winning a case is more imoprtant than having the right case. How can it be acceptable for them to be so resistant to re-examining evidence that would reveal guilty parties to still be at large in addition to freeing an innocent man? Winning an appeal to keep an innocent man in jail should not be viewed as a win, overturning a conviction based on evidence of innocence should not be viewed as a loss.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 April 3, 2015 Iago******On the flip side how many have been caught stone cold guilty by half a dozen unbeatable sources of evidence but continue to soak up millions of tax payers dollars. Clearly saving money is more important to you than killing innocent people. It's cheaper to lock someone up for a life sentence than execute them. You will never convince the bloodthirsty of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 April 3, 2015 jakee Interesting thing the guy said "Miscarriage of justice not just for myself but for the victim's families". Seems like a lot of time the adversarial nature of criminal trials and maybe the political side of the prosecutor's office means that winning a case is more imoprtant than having the right case. How can it be acceptable for them to be so resistant to re-examining evidence that would reveal guilty parties to still be at large in addition to freeing an innocent man? Winning an appeal to keep an innocent man in jail should not be viewed as a win, overturning a conviction based on evidence of innocence should not be viewed as a loss. If the "system" is trying to cover up their malfeasance.... keeping someone locked up is indeed a win to them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,451 #11 April 3, 2015 Well, it'd be cheaper if ya just took 'em out back and shot 'em Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 April 3, 2015 wmw999 Well, it'd be cheaper if ya just took 'em out back and shot 'em Wendy P. From the posting history of some of those fellows who hail from your state around here.. I would posit that they would volunteer for that in an instant if they could Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #13 April 3, 2015 QuoteClearly saving money is more important to you than killing innocent people Your so predictable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #14 April 3, 2015 He is correct. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #15 April 3, 2015 No he is not, I only said that as a set up in attempt to appeal to the liberal monetary side of the equation. But being labeled a republican he bashed me for it, but months back and dozens of times he you, and all the other liberals were saying the same thing about private prisons that only exist to soak up money and how that's wrong. It's typical for you posters here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #16 April 4, 2015 cvfd1399QuoteClearly saving money is more important to you than killing innocent people Your so predictable. ??? I don't have one.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #18 April 4, 2015 Fine ignore the facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #19 April 4, 2015 kallend***QuoteClearly saving money is more important to you than killing innocent people Your so predictable. ??? I don't have one. You do. We know you do. We have seen it. It wood be better if your willin to admit it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #20 April 4, 2015 turtlespeed ****** Quote Clearly saving money is more important to you than killing innocent people Your so predictable. ??? I don't have one. You do. We know you do. We have seen it. It wood be better if your willin to admit it. Well, my wife says my wood is predictable. But I doubt you have seen it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #21 April 4, 2015 Quote No he is not, I only said that as a set up in attempt to appeal to the liberal monetary side of the equation. But being labeled a republican he bashed me for it, but months back and dozens of times he you, and all the other liberals were saying the same thing about private prisons that only exist to soak up money and how that's wrong. It's typical for you posters here. Yeah, consistency is typical liberals, how kind of you to noticePrivate prisons have been documented to mistreat prisoners in order to save money. Your suggestion involves taking less care over who to execute in order to save money. Stands to reason that someone who doesn't agree with the first case doesn't agree with the second case either. How do you see it different?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #22 April 4, 2015 Except his position wavered from monetary savings as usual to monetary spending just because someone from the other side took that stance, so no consistency was not in play here. I stated no true stance, it was only statement by me to draw him out, so there's that. I have no opinion to state on this issue at this point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #23 April 4, 2015 People who think the death penalty is useful in any way besides satiating the bloodlust of the peanut gallery may have actual mental disabilities.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 April 4, 2015 gruePeople who think the death penalty is useful in any way besides satiating the bloodlust of the peanut gallery may have actual mental disabilities. Indeed....... and highly illogical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #25 April 5, 2015 cvfd1399On the flip side how many have been caught stone cold guilty by half a dozen unbeatable sources of evidence but continue to soak up millions of tax payers dollars. Well, the impulse to save money on his defense is what ended up with this innocent man being locked up unjustly on death row for so many year."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
