Facts about Republican support for our enemies

[DanG 1]

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that's what i'm working on locally, a database that the people fill out and the politicians have to go by the percentages. sort of the same thing, i think it would be easier to implement than decentralized. that would be asking for too much changed at once. it would also be a pain to try it; think of all the money and power involved now.

Maybe that's fine for local politics. At the national level is would be completely counter to what the Founding Fathers intended.

- Dan G

[sfzombie13 324]

maybe, but it would place the power truly into the hands of the people and i think it would be universally accepted. the founding fathers allowed for change, it just can't be on a whim.

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[DanG 1]

It would definitely jot be universally accepted. I wouldn't accept it, and I suspect many others wouldn't either. The rule of the mob is not what our country is about.

- Dan G

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DanG

It would definitely jot be universally accepted. I wouldn't accept it, and I suspect many others wouldn't either. The rule of the mob is not what our country is about.

Tell that to Baltimore.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Andy9o8 2]

turtlespeed

***It would definitely jot be universally accepted. I wouldn't accept it, and I suspect many others wouldn't either. The rule of the mob is not what our country is about.

Tell that to Baltimore.

You know, as often as not, the fiercest and most vocal advocates of the Second Amendment cite the citizenry's ongoing need to have the tools protect themselves - not only against criminals, but also to be a line of defense (and hopefully deterrent) against the tyranny of one's own government, if need be. They often cite the citizen soldiers of the Continental Army as examples. There were also examples in the run-up to the Revolutionary War when American colonists of British citizenry engaged in riotous acts which led to violence between themselves and British soldiers, as well as casualties to innocents and damage to private property. That's what often happens with popular insurrection.

Truth be told: historically, while it's certainly not as widespread as in banana republics, there are many examples in the US of governments, often local governments, chronically (if not systematically) acting in a brutally tyrannical fashion toward their own citizens, usually via the paramilitary force of local police departments. When that happens too often or too egregiously (and now, thanks to technology, too publicly), the people will rise up and take to the streets against that tyranny. Sometimes the demonstrations are peaceful, and sometimes they become riots. And some innocents get hurt or their property gets wrecked. It's unfortunate and unfair, but it's also as old as organized societies and governments.

Black people in the US in the 21st Century are sick of STILL being treated like public enemies and galley convicts in their own neighborhoods by cops acting like an army of occupation. Don't want them to riot from time to time? Don't want them to become mobs that either have to be brutally suppressed or pandered-to? Then don't treat them that way, or give the government the sanctuary of moral support to treat them that way. No justice, no peace.

[Amazon 7]

Andy9o8

******It would definitely jot be universally accepted. I wouldn't accept it, and I suspect many others wouldn't either. The rule of the mob is not what our country is about.

Tell that to Baltimore.

You know, as often as not, the fiercest and most vocal advocates of the Second Amendment cite the citizenry's ongoing need to have the tools protect themselves - not only against criminals, but also to be a line of defense (and hopefully deterrent) against the tyranny of one's own government, if need be. They often cite the citizen soldiers of the Continental Army as examples. There were also examples in the run-up to the Revolutionary War when American colonists of British citizenry engaged in riotous acts which led to violence between themselves and British soldiers, as well as casualties to innocents and damage to private property. That's what often happens with popular insurrection.

Truth be told: historically, while it's certainly not as widespread as in banana republics, there are many examples in the US of governments, often local governments, chronically (if not systematically) acting in a brutally tyrannical fashion toward their own citizens, usually via the paramilitary force of local police departments. When that happens too often or too egregiously (and now, thanks to technology, too publicly), the people will rise up and take to the streets against that tyranny. Sometimes the demonstrations are peaceful, and sometimes they become riots. And some innocents get hurt or their property gets wrecked. It's unfortunate and unfair, but it's also as old as organized societies and governments.

Black people in the US in the 21st Century are sick of STILL being treated like public enemies and galley convicts in their own neighborhoods by cops acting like an army of occupation. Don't want them to riot from time to time? Don't want them to become mobs that either have to be brutally suppressed or pandered-to? Then don't treat them that way, or give the government the sanctuary of moral support to treat them that way. No justice, no peace.

But how else are they supposed to afford Jordans.... after a shotting.

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Andy9o8

******It would definitely jot be universally accepted. I wouldn't accept it, and I suspect many others wouldn't either. The rule of the mob is not what our country is about.

Tell that to Baltimore.

You know, as often as not, the fiercest and most vocal advocates of the Second Amendment cite the citizenry's ongoing need to have the tools protect themselves - not only against criminals, but also to be a line of defense (and hopefully deterrent) against the tyranny of one's own government, if need be. They often cite the citizen soldiers of the Continental Army as examples. There were also examples in the run-up to the Revolutionary War when American colonists of British citizenry engaged in riotous acts which led to violence between themselves and British soldiers, as well as casualties to innocents and damage to private property. That's what often happens with popular insurrection.

Truth be told: historically, while it's certainly not as widespread as in banana republics, there are many examples in the US of governments, often local governments, chronically (if not systematically) acting in a brutally tyrannical fashion toward their own citizens, usually via the paramilitary force of local police departments. When that happens too often or too egregiously (and now, thanks to technology, too publicly), the people will rise up and take to the streets against that tyranny. Sometimes the demonstrations are peaceful, and sometimes they become riots. And some innocents get hurt or their property gets wrecked. It's unfortunate and unfair, but it's also as old as organized societies and governments.

Black people in the US in the 21st Century are sick of STILL being treated like public enemies and galley convicts in their own neighborhoods by cops acting like an army of occupation. Don't want them to riot from time to time? Don't want them to become mobs that either have to be brutally suppressed or pandered-to? Then don't treat them that way, or give the government the sanctuary of moral support to treat them that way. No justice, no peace.

So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,008]

>So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

Didn't read his post, did you.

[normiss 806]

Or take Chicago's route. Sobriety checks targeting minorities.
Refusing to admit it exists doesn't mean it doesn't.

Damn that sounds odd coming from me.

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billvon

>So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

Didn't read his post, did you.

Yes I did.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Amazon 7]

turtlespeed

***>So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

Didn't read his post, did you.

Yes I did.

Sorry there appear to be an issue with the Facts not in evidence

[kallend 2,030]

turtlespeed

So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

You're a bit late, the Boston Tea Party was in December 1773.

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kallend

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So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

You're a bit late, the Boston Tea Party was in December 1773.

Better late than never .

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,030]

turtlespeed

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So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

You're a bit late, the Boston Tea Party was in December 1773.

Better late than never .

Seems to me that rioting on account of injustice is an American tradition.

Whites have been known to riot for far lesser reasons:

... when our teams lose the big game or win the big game; or because of something called Pumpkin Festival; or because veggie burritos cost $10 at Woodstock '99 and there weren't enough Porta-Potties by the time of the Limp Bizkit set; or because folks couldn't get enough beer at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake; or because surfers (natch); or St. Patty's Day in Albany; or because Penn State fired Joe Paterno; or because it's a Sunday afternoon in Ames, Iowa; and we do it over and over and over again. Far from mere amateur hooliganism, our riots are indeed violent affairs that have been known to endanger the safety and lives of police, as with the infamous 1998 riot at Washington State University. To wit:

"The crowd then attacked the officers from all sides for two hours with rocks, beer bottles, signposts, chairs, and pieces of concrete, allegedly cheering whenever an officer was struck and injured. Twenty-three officers were injured, some suffering concussions and broken bones."

Seventeen years later, one still waits for the avalanche of conservative ruminations regarding the pathologies of whites in Pullman, whose disrespect for authority suggests a larger culture of dysfunction, symbolized by the easily recognizable gang attire of Carhartt work coats and backward baseball caps.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

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So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

You're a bit late, the Boston Tea Party was in December 1773.

Better late than never .

Seems to me that rioting on account of injustice is an American tradition.

Whites have been known to riot for far lesser reasons:

... when our teams lose the big game or win the big game; or because of something called Pumpkin Festival; or because veggie burritos cost $10 at Woodstock '99 and there weren't enough Porta-Potties by the time of the Limp Bizkit set; or because folks couldn't get enough beer at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake; or because surfers (natch); or St. Patty's Day in Albany; or because Penn State fired Joe Paterno; or because it's a Sunday afternoon in Ames, Iowa; and we do it over and over and over again. Far from mere amateur hooliganism, our riots are indeed violent affairs that have been known to endanger the safety and lives of police, as with the infamous 1998 riot at Washington State University. To wit:

"The crowd then attacked the officers from all sides for two hours with rocks, beer bottles, signposts, chairs, and pieces of concrete, allegedly cheering whenever an officer was struck and injured. Twenty-three officers were injured, some suffering concussions and broken bones."

Seventeen years later, one still waits for the avalanche of conservative ruminations regarding the pathologies of whites in Pullman, whose disrespect for authority suggests a larger culture of dysfunction, symbolized by the easily recognizable gang attire of Carhartt work coats and backward baseball caps.

I'm guessing that you didn't write this. ?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Andy9o8 2]

turtlespeed

I'm guessing that you didn't write this. ?

Didn't read his post, did you.

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Andy9o8

***I'm guessing that you didn't write this. ?

Didn't read his post, did you.

I did, but was hoping to see credit to the author, so I could research who was doing the writing.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Amazon 7]

turtlespeed

******I'm guessing that you didn't write this. ?

Didn't read his post, did you.

I did, but was hoping to see credit to the author, so I could research who was doing the writing.

I am pretty sure the news sources you would use for the "research" would have little information... it is their stock in trade.

[turtlespeed 221]

Amazon

*********I'm guessing that you didn't write this. ?

Didn't read his post, did you.

I did, but was hoping to see credit to the author, so I could research who was doing the writing.

I am pretty sure the news sources you would use for the "research" would have little information... it is their stock in trade.

News flash for all far lefters.
News sources are the best way to research authors and credibility issues.
They are all biased.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Amazon 7]

turtlespeed

************I'm guessing that you didn't write this. ?

Didn't read his post, did you.

I did, but was hoping to see credit to the author, so I could research who was doing the writing.

I am pretty sure the news sources you would use for the "research" would have little information... it is their stock in trade.

News flash for all far lefters.
News sources are the best way to research authors and credibility issues.
They are all biased.


But but.. all the Texican compassionate conservatives round these here parts seam to think everyone else is a "far lefter" if they are not marching to that very special far fringe right drum beat yall love so much.

[kallend 2,030]

turtlespeed

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So you think we should succumb to the rule of the mob then.

You're a bit late, the Boston Tea Party was in December 1773.

Better late than never .

Seems to me that rioting on account of injustice is an American tradition.

Whites have been known to riot for far lesser reasons:

... when our teams lose the big game or win the big game; or because of something called Pumpkin Festival; or because veggie burritos cost $10 at Woodstock '99 and there weren't enough Porta-Potties by the time of the Limp Bizkit set; or because folks couldn't get enough beer at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake; or because surfers (natch); or St. Patty's Day in Albany; or because Penn State fired Joe Paterno; or because it's a Sunday afternoon in Ames, Iowa; and we do it over and over and over again. Far from mere amateur hooliganism, our riots are indeed violent affairs that have been known to endanger the safety and lives of police, as with the infamous 1998 riot at Washington State University. To wit:

"The crowd then attacked the officers from all sides for two hours with rocks, beer bottles, signposts, chairs, and pieces of concrete, allegedly cheering whenever an officer was struck and injured. Twenty-three officers were injured, some suffering concussions and broken bones."

Seventeen years later, one still waits for the avalanche of conservative ruminations regarding the pathologies of whites in Pullman, whose disrespect for authority suggests a larger culture of dysfunction, symbolized by the easily recognizable gang attire of Carhartt work coats and backward baseball caps.

I'm guessing that you didn't write this. ?

Correct. I find italics a convenient way of indicating material written by others. Easier to spot than quotation marks.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Andy9o8 2]

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I find italics a convenient way of indicating material written by others. Easier to spot than quotation marks.

Did the author attend public or private school? Of course in England a public school is a private school which really bolloxes up the definitions. What are you trying to hide?

[turtlespeed 221]

Amazon

***************I'm guessing that you didn't write this. ?

Didn't read his post, did you.

I did, but was hoping to see credit to the author, so I could research who was doing the writing.

I am pretty sure the news sources you would use for the "research" would have little information... it is their stock in trade.

News flash for all far lefters.
News sources are the best way to research authors and credibility issues.
They are all biased.


But but.. all the Texican compassionate conservatives round these here parts seam to think everyone else is a "far lefter" if they are not marching to that very special far fringe right drum beat yall love so much.

I didn't know there were so many textile workers here.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,030]

Andy9o8

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I find italics a convenient way of indicating material written by others. Easier to spot than quotation marks.

Did the author attend public or private school?

Yes.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

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I find italics a convenient way of indicating material written by others. Easier to spot than quotation marks.

Did the author attend public or private school?

Yes.

3 logicians walk into a bar.
the bartender asks - "Do you three want drinks?"


A logician's wife sends him to the store with these directions - "Please get a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, then get a dozen."


I actually chuckle whenever I hear a pregnant woman get asked if she's having a boy or a girl....

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants