skycop 0 #1 April 28, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRd5oucG114 "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #2 April 28, 2015 Neal deGrasse Tyson nailed it yesterday on twitter. "The less evidence we have for what we believe is certain, the more violently we defend beliefs against those who don't agree."-NDT Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3 April 28, 2015 AnvilbrotherNeal deGrasse Tyson nailed it yesterday on twitter. "The less evidence we have for what we believe is certain, the more violently we defend beliefs against those who don't agree."-NDT lol that's a nice way to put down other people. Oh, you have a strong feeling, well obviously that means you are wrong. What a crock of shit. (Now this will reaction will just confirm to you that you are right) LMAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #4 April 28, 2015 Quotelol that's a nice way to put down other people. Oh, you have a strong feeling, well obviously that means you are wrong. Not at all what that means...... Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #5 April 28, 2015 skycophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRd5oucG114 Yup. Fails to mention how cops investigate complaints against cops. Funny enough when those cops investigate their buddies, they often find there is no merit to any complaint. Interesting that when it goes to trial, all of a sudden the complaints have merit according to juries. http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/police-settlements/ But that was a nice little propaganda piece, very Sharpton like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 April 28, 2015 AnvilbrotherQuotelol that's a nice way to put down other people. Oh, you have a strong feeling, well obviously that means you are wrong. Not at all what that means...... In this case you're correct. Anyone who watched NDT's show knows that he's constantly challenging the human tendency to believe and defend religious mythology and dismiss scientific method and evidence. That quote is just his distillation of his overall opinion in that general regard. That's right, I got your back against SkyDekker. Pigs will now fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #7 April 28, 2015 Andy9o8***Quotelol that's a nice way to put down other people. Oh, you have a strong feeling, well obviously that means you are wrong. Not at all what that means...... In this case you're correct. Anyone who watched NDT's show knows that he's constantly challenging the human tendency to believe and defend religious mythology and dismiss scientific method and evidence. That quote is just his distillation of his overall opinion in that general regard. That's right, I got your back against SkyDekker. Pigs will now fly. Thanks for the explanation. Helps when people use quotes out of contaxt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #8 April 28, 2015 Less specifically, here's what went wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusion_of_the_inverse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #9 April 28, 2015 Good thing you used the phrase pigs will fly. If you used hell froze over Bill and Rush would be in here debating global warming Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #10 April 28, 2015 I thought he was referring to "you guys". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #11 April 28, 2015 Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #12 April 28, 2015 ***Yup. Fails to mention how cops investigate complaints against cops. Funny enough when those cops investigate their buddies, they often find there is no merit to any complaint. Interesting that when it goes to trial, all of a sudden the complaints have merit according to juries*** These aren't all juries, most are settlements, in many of those cases, settling is simply a business decision usually by the insurance carrier. Most of the time is more cost effective to settle than take it to trial. They do not mention the cases where a jury decided in the officers favor. Believe me, I've been through it both ways. There are certain attorneys that treat the civil courts as the lottery. I've never once said there were not problems, but I maintain the problem is not nearly as widespread as the media portrays, and the "misconduct" numbers are on par or lower than other professions. My take on the Baltimore incident is this, the guy had been arrested 18 times since 2007. They probably had dealt with him before and he ran and resisted, during that resistance he was injured. I believe the cops thought he was faking trying to get out of his situation, he wasn't faking and now we have this. They are all going to get jammed up for not seeking immediate medical attention, I'm sure that is there policy and they violated it. This policy violation will relate to criminal prosecution as well. For what I'm not sure, until all the facts are in. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #13 April 28, 2015 Well I fucked that all up, the first part is a quote. I tried to edit and it made it worse............... "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #14 April 28, 2015 Quoteis simply a business decision usually by the insurance carrier. 1. I would be surprised Baltimore carries insurance for this. In most cases large municipalities are selfinsured. 2. In the article are quite a few cases of jury/judge awarded amounts. Even mentioned quite a few times that state law limits awards to $200,000 max against municipalities. QuoteMy take on the Baltimore incident is this, the guy had been arrested 18 times since 2007. They probably had dealt with him before and he ran and resisted, during that resistance he was injured. Apparently Baltimore police was quite fond of "rough rides". Once you have arrested the suspect, you handcuf him and then put him in the back of the van. You then conveniently "forget" to do up a seatbelt. Hilarity ensues when you take some sharp turns, sudden stops and quick accelerations. Baltimore Police has already admitted he was transported without seatbelts against policy.... Edited to add: They also stopped to shackle his legs. Once again they "forgot" to do up his seatbelt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #15 April 28, 2015 QuoteThis policy violation will relate to criminal prosecution as well. For what I'm not sure, Well, his spinal cord was 80% severed and his larynx was crushed. I'd guess that will factor into deciding "for what". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #16 April 28, 2015 It makes no sense to you, someone who clearly can't relate to the oppression faced by some Black residents in Baltimore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #17 April 28, 2015 They sure showed that CVS how oppressed they were. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #18 April 28, 2015 Two wrongs don't make a right. However, the second wrong action doesn't lessen the first one, while the first one can incite the second. "overwhelming emotion" (aka temporary insanity) is a valid defense in some cases. "I'm a bully and an asshole" isn't. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #19 April 28, 2015 QuoteWell, his spinal cord was 80% severed and his larynx was crushed. I'd guess that will factor into deciding "for what". As for the severity of the charges, and they will come no doubt. There still are legal standards to be met, even though they are cops, they still get due process........... "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #20 April 28, 2015 >They sure showed that CVS how oppressed they were. Yep. And the cops sure showed Freddy Gray how honorable they were. Neither is defensible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #21 April 28, 2015 It's worlds away from what a poor inner-city black man ever receives. It would do a lot of folks good to actually research the historical issues for the areas most affected by the racism within the system. Most can't be bothered though. It's much easier to blame the victims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #22 April 28, 2015 rSkyDekker Apparently Baltimore police was quite fond of "rough rides". Once you have arrested the suspect, you handcuf him and then put him in the back of the van. You then conveniently "forget" to do up a seatbelt. Hilarity ensues when you take some sharp turns, sudden stops and quick accelerations. Baltimore Police has already admitted he was transported without seatbelts against policy. Sadly, this has been exactly my suspicion. This is not a new trick. It's a rather old one. I understand that this is a common approach with rabbits (dudes who runs from police). A peep mouthing off or spitting will also result in the perp kissing the grill. A dog ran in the road and I braked hard. This one was a van. Handcuffed. A nice sudden stop to teach the kid a lesson about respect and shutting up. He flies head first and learns a powerful lesson. This is old shit that has been going on for decades. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #23 April 28, 2015 AnvilbrotherThey sure showed that CVS how oppressed they were. This>epic post Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #24 April 28, 2015 skycopQuoteWell, his spinal cord was 80% severed and his larynx was crushed. I'd guess that will factor into deciding "for what". As for the severity of the charges, and they will come no doubt. There still are legal standards to be met, even though they are cops, they still get due process........... Yup. Cops get "due process." Sometimes it's even "fair." Sometimes, not so much"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #25 April 28, 2015 normissIt's worlds away from what a poor inner-city black man ever receives. It would do a lot of folks good to actually research the historical issues for the areas most affected by the racism within the system. Most can't be bothered though. It's much easier to blame the victims. Those poor inner city blacks..... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/ Meanwhile, the deaths of whites at the hands of law enforcement typically receive less attention, even when the case is shrouded in controversy. For example, Gilbert Collar, an 18-year-old white student at the University of South Alabama, was shot and killed while naked, unarmed and under the influence of drugs by a black police officer. The officer, Trevis Austin, was cleared of wrongdoing in 2013 by a Mobile County grand jury in a case that received little media coverage outside Alabama. Mr. Collar’s parents filed a federal lawsuit last year against the officer. As researchers are quick to point out, FBI data on police shootings by race is notoriously incomplete, which may explain why Peter Moskos, assistant professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York, decided to use figures from the website Killed by Police. Based on that data, Mr. Moskos reported that roughly 49 percent of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 were white, while 30 percent were black. He also found that 19 percent were Hispanic and 2 percent were Asian and other races. His results, posted last week on his blog Cop in the Hood, arrived with several caveats, notably that 25 percent of the website’s data, which is drawn largely from news reports, failed to show the race of the person killed. Killed by Police lists every death, justified or not, including those in which the officer had been wounded or acted in self-defense. “The data doesn’t indicate which shootings are justified (the vast majority) and which are cold-blooded murder (not many, but some). And maybe that would vary by race. I don’t know, but I doubt it,” Mr. Moskos said on his blog. Adjusted to take into account the racial breakdown of the U.S. population, he said black men are 3.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white men. But also adjusted to take into account the racial breakdown in violent crime, the data actually show that police are less likely to kill black suspects than white ones. “If one adjusts for the racial disparity in the homicide rate or the rate at which police are feloniously killed, whites are actually more likely to be killed by police than blacks,” said Mr. Moskos, a former Baltimore cop and author of the book “Cop in the Hood.” Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
