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I was responding to a comment in reference to flying the flag over state buildings and not referring to free speech.
I agree though, wanna be seen as an idiot racist, fly it over your trailer.



Amen to that.... I have cousins who revel in that shit.... and actually I prefer them to be overt...... its easier to just avoid them like the plague they are.[:/]

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ETA To clarify, if you shoot to wound, and the dirtbag still tries to kill you... then what?

Don't waste your time giving him a chance to kill you. Shoot center mass until he drops and stops moving or loses his weapon.



Well, thank you for the lesson. I'll keep it in mind. However, based on actual data the most likely life/death situation I'm likely to encounter BY FAR is while skydiving or Scuba diving and I don't think your advice will help.
Atleast it would look cool if you went in while spraying bullets into the air with two guns...:D

Im wondering how people get into these life and death situations in the first place, im gonna guess it wouldnt have been a life or death situation if you hadnt pulled a gun out yourself.

(Obviously excluding these one in a couple of hundred of millions chances of being in this church for example) You cant expect to live with a 0% chance of dying.

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ETA To clarify, if you shoot to wound, and the dirtbag still tries to kill you... then what?

Don't waste your time giving him a chance to kill you. Shoot center mass until he drops and stops moving or loses his weapon.



Well, thank you for the lesson. I'll keep it in mind. However, based on actual data the most likely life/death situation I'm likely to encounter BY FAR is while skydiving or Scuba diving and I don't think your advice will help.

I understand your point, but you cannot assume that it will NEVER happen to you. Yes, there have been violent crimes committed in affluent areas.
There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"!

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***I was responding to a comment in reference to flying the flag over state buildings and not referring to free speech.
I agree though, wanna be seen as an idiot racist, fly it over your trailer.



Amen to that.... I have cousins who revel in that shit.... and actually I prefer them to be overt...... its easier to just avoid them like the plague they are.[:/]

I can understand why you moved 3000 miles away. :D
There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"!

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Driver1

******I was responding to a comment in reference to flying the flag over state buildings and not referring to free speech.
I agree though, wanna be seen as an idiot racist, fly it over your trailer.



Amen to that.... I have cousins who revel in that shit.... and actually I prefer them to be overt...... its easier to just avoid them like the plague they are.[:/]

I can understand why you moved 3000 miles away. :D

Dude.. I had to unfriend them from my Facebook too.... who needs that crap rolling down my screen... I am not going to let their dumb as dirt and proud of it stupidity be anywhere near my newsfeed. They like some here don't even think its racist... its just the way it is they say... classic cain't see the forest for the tree's at its very worst.[:/]

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*********I was responding to a comment in reference to flying the flag over state buildings and not referring to free speech.
I agree though, wanna be seen as an idiot racist, fly it over your trailer.



Amen to that.... I have cousins who revel in that shit.... and actually I prefer them to be overt...... its easier to just avoid them like the plague they are.[:/]

I can understand why you moved 3000 miles away. :D

Dude.. I had to unfriend them from my Facebook too.... who needs that crap rolling down my screen... I am not going to let their dumb as dirt and proud of it stupidity be anywhere near my newsfeed. They like some here don't even think its racist... its just the way it is they say... classic cain't see the forest for the tree's at its very worst.[:/]

So, you get rid of it on your Facebook, but happily(?) engage with others on here who probably have a similar mindset. K.

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************I was responding to a comment in reference to flying the flag over state buildings and not referring to free speech.
I agree though, wanna be seen as an idiot racist, fly it over your trailer.



Amen to that.... I have cousins who revel in that shit.... and actually I prefer them to be overt...... its easier to just avoid them like the plague they are.[:/]

I can understand why you moved 3000 miles away. :D

Dude.. I had to unfriend them from my Facebook too.... who needs that crap rolling down my screen... I am not going to let their dumb as dirt and proud of it stupidity be anywhere near my newsfeed. They like some here don't even think its racist... its just the way it is they say... classic cain't see the forest for the tree's at its very worst.[:/]

So, you get rid of it on your Facebook, but happily(?) engage with others on here who probably have a similar mindset. K.

You need to keep up with how I post about that kind of crap.
It is my experience that if one is a follower of one kind of "ist or ism" they are usually afflicted with a whole range of them[:/]

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***************I was responding to a comment in reference to flying the flag over state buildings and not referring to free speech.
I agree though, wanna be seen as an idiot racist, fly it over your trailer.



Amen to that.... I have cousins who revel in that shit.... and actually I prefer them to be overt...... its easier to just avoid them like the plague they are.[:/]

I can understand why you moved 3000 miles away. :D

Dude.. I had to unfriend them from my Facebook too.... who needs that crap rolling down my screen... I am not going to let their dumb as dirt and proud of it stupidity be anywhere near my newsfeed. They like some here don't even think its racist... its just the way it is they say... classic cain't see the forest for the tree's at its very worst.[:/]

So, you get rid of it on your Facebook, but happily(?) engage with others on here who probably have a similar mindset. K.

You need to keep up with how I post about that kind of crap.
It is my experience that if one is a follower of one kind of "ist or ism" they are usually afflicted with a whole range of them[:/]
I'm new here.

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Anvilbrother

Run away as fast as you fucking can!



Nah, I'm okay. I realize this is just an internet forum. Opinions being spat from every angle. Sometimes I learn, sometimes I laugh, sometimes I want to throw up. End of the day, I surround myself physically with my loved ones and realize that this is again, just an internet forum and a social place to share ideas. Nothing more.

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JohnnyMarko

***Run away as fast as you fucking can!



Nah, I'm okay. I realize this is just an internet forum. Opinions being spat from every angle. Sometimes I learn, sometimes I laugh, sometimes I want to throw up. End of the day, I surround myself physically with my loved ones and realize that this is again, just an internet forum and a social place to share ideas. Nothing more.

Great reply. If only all the other yahoos were able to agree to disagree without resorting to childish retorts, hit-n-block PM's, or PA's, myself included, this place would be a lot more civil.
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Driver1

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ETA To clarify, if you shoot to wound, and the dirtbag still tries to kill you... then what?

Don't waste your time giving him a chance to kill you. Shoot center mass until he drops and stops moving or loses his weapon.



Well, thank you for the lesson. I'll keep it in mind. However, based on actual data the most likely life/death situation I'm likely to encounter BY FAR is while skydiving or Scuba diving and I don't think your advice will help.

I understand your point, but you cannot assume that it will NEVER happen to you. Yes, there have been violent crimes committed in affluent areas.

Lots of things *might* happen. If I worried about all of them I'd never leave the bunker.

So I just worry about the likely risks.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

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ETA To clarify, if you shoot to wound, and the dirtbag still tries to kill you... then what?

Don't waste your time giving him a chance to kill you. Shoot center mass until he drops and stops moving or loses his weapon.



Well, thank you for the lesson. I'll keep it in mind. However, based on actual data the most likely life/death situation I'm likely to encounter BY FAR is while skydiving or Scuba diving and I don't think your advice will help.

I understand your point, but you cannot assume that it will NEVER happen to you. Yes, there have been violent crimes committed in affluent areas.

Lots of things *might* happen. If I worried about all of them I'd never leave the bunker.

So I just worry about the likely risks.

I fully understand. I may be a bit more protective due to my age and family circumstances (wife, kids) and I will do whatever it takes to protect them.
There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"!

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normiss

While not physically attached to any particular state building, it is indeed flying over them.
:S



Like a kite?:D
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Driver1

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ETA To clarify, if you shoot to wound, and the dirtbag still tries to kill you... then what?

Don't waste your time giving him a chance to kill you. Shoot center mass until he drops and stops moving or loses his weapon.



Well, thank you for the lesson. I'll keep it in mind. However, based on actual data the most likely life/death situation I'm likely to encounter BY FAR is while skydiving or Scuba diving and I don't think your advice will help.

I understand your point, but you cannot assume that it will NEVER happen to you. Yes, there have been violent crimes committed in affluent areas.

Lots of things *might* happen. If I worried about all of them I'd never leave the bunker.

So I just worry about the likely risks.

I fully understand. I may be a bit more protective due to my age and family circumstances (wife, kids) and I will do whatever it takes to protect them.

You do realize that keeping a gun in the home does in and of itself present a risk to your family that is greater than that of a stranger entering your house with intent to hurt them. Right?

It's your call, but I hope you have it properly secured if your kids are little.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

***************

ETA To clarify, if you shoot to wound, and the dirtbag still tries to kill you... then what?

Don't waste your time giving him a chance to kill you. Shoot center mass until he drops and stops moving or loses his weapon.



Well, thank you for the lesson. I'll keep it in mind. However, based on actual data the most likely life/death situation I'm likely to encounter BY FAR is while skydiving or Scuba diving and I don't think your advice will help.

I understand your point, but you cannot assume that it will NEVER happen to you. Yes, there have been violent crimes committed in affluent areas.

Lots of things *might* happen. If I worried about all of them I'd never leave the bunker.

So I just worry about the likely risks.

I fully understand. I may be a bit more protective due to my age and family circumstances (wife, kids) and I will do whatever it takes to protect them.

You do realize that keeping a gun in the home does in and of itself present a risk to your family that is greater than that of a stranger entering your house with intent to hurt them. Right?

It's your call, but I hope you have it properly secured if your kids are little.

Nah, I'm sure he lets them play Cowboys and Indians with the handguns and sniper with the long guns.

Probably has a salad bowl with an assortment of bullets so the kids don't need to look for rocks to throw, or jacks to play.

Hell, what's a little roulette between family members.

That is a pretty ridiculous statement that the gun poses a bigger risk . . . Just nonsensical liberal gun taker mentality.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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kallend

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That is a pretty ridiculous statement that the gun poses a bigger risk . . . Just nonsensical liberal gun taker mentality.



Nope.

Yep.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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kallend

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That is a pretty ridiculous statement that the gun poses a bigger risk . . . Just nonsensical liberal gun taker mentality.



Nope.

Well, he could be right if the gun/house in question is in a place like...oh, I don't know, South Side Chicago? Or maybe Far Southeast Side Chicago?

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That is a pretty ridiculous statement that the gun poses a bigger risk . . . Just nonsensical liberal gun taker mentality.



Nope.

Yep.

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199310073291506

"After controlling for these characteristics, we found that keeping a gun in the home was strongly and independently associated with an increased risk of homicide (adjusted odds ratio, 2.7; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.6 to 4.4). Virtually all of this risk involved homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance.
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CONCLUSIONS
The use of illicit drugs and a history of physical fights in the home are important risk factors for homicide in the home. Rather than confer protection, guns kept in the home are associated with an increase in the risk of homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance."

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

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ETA To clarify, if you shoot to wound, and the dirtbag still tries to kill you... then what?

Don't waste your time giving him a chance to kill you. Shoot center mass until he drops and stops moving or loses his weapon.



Well, thank you for the lesson. I'll keep it in mind. However, based on actual data the most likely life/death situation I'm likely to encounter BY FAR is while skydiving or Scuba diving and I don't think your advice will help.

I understand your point, but you cannot assume that it will NEVER happen to you. Yes, there have been violent crimes committed in affluent areas.

Lots of things *might* happen. If I worried about all of them I'd never leave the bunker.

So I just worry about the likely risks.

I fully understand. I may be a bit more protective due to my age and family circumstances (wife, kids) and I will do whatever it takes to protect them.

You do realize that keeping a gun in the home does in and of itself present a risk to your family that is greater than that of a stranger entering your house with intent to hurt them. Right?

It's your call, but I hope you have it properly secured if your kids are little.

It is, and they know what it can do and to not touch it. One of these days I'll take them out to the gun range when they're ready for it, if they want to. Pea shooters only for them though. :D Mine's a .45.
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