Anvilbrother 0 #201 June 19, 2015 So it's completely sane to murder 9 people then? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #202 June 19, 2015 Anvilbrother So it's completely sane to murder 9 people then? You are speaking in absolutes, and the only absolute is that there are absolutely no absolutes.Then there is vodka.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #203 June 19, 2015 jakee***Do you not agree with me that someone who would sit there premeditate a murder then carry it out is mentally ill? Absolutely not. Agreed. Mentally ill and evil are separate things. It would be nice if people would stop mixing the two. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #204 June 19, 2015 AnvilbrotherSo it's completely sane to murder 9 people then? Yes. Mentally ill people don't worry me. Sociopaths do. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #205 June 19, 2015 QuoteRoommate Dalton Tyler told ABC News that Roof was “planning something like that for six months.” “He was big into segregation and other stuff,” Tyler said. “He said he wanted to start a civil war. He said he was going to do something like that and then kill himself.” Christon Scriven, a friend from a trailer park in Lexington, South Carolina, where Roof was a regular visitor, told the New York Daily News that the alleged gunman had outlined his horrific plans last week. “He flat out told us he was going to do this stuff,” said Scriven, who is black. “He was looking to kill a bunch of people.” Scriven said he and their other friends assumed he had been joking. “He’s weird. You don’t know when to take him seriously and when not to,” he said. These dudes here...... Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #206 June 20, 2015 RonD1120 The correct answer is...BOTH. Skyrad, who is I believe a Muslim, has provided scripture that teaches forgiveness and condemns vengeance and retribution. Perhaps you, being a good Christian and all, can provide us with scripture (preferably New Testament) that advocates execution by firing squad, death by anal sodomy, or any of the other courses of action proposed by yourself or other Conservative Christians in this thread. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #207 June 20, 2015 lawrocket******Do you not agree with me that someone who would sit there premeditate a murder then carry it out is mentally ill? Absolutely not. Agreed. Mentally ill and evil are separate things. It would be nice if people would stop mixing the two. Well history of mass shootings has shown the people behind it usually had mental illnesses so I wil conceded that yes there are evil people capable of sane killings I guess, but these are facts here and it shows they usually are mentally ill. http://www.newsweek.com/charleston-massacre-mental-illness-common-thread-mass-shootings-344789 Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #208 June 20, 2015 No I do not recall starting a white race thread.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #209 June 20, 2015 You left out: Romans 13 American Standard Version (ASV) 13 Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same: 4 for he is a minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but also for conscience' sake. 6 For this cause ye pay tribute also; for they are ministers of God's service, attending continually upon this very thing.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #210 June 20, 2015 See my post #209 above. There are two different concepts at play here. The first is personal and spiritual. If a person harms you, the Christian, then you are instructed to forgive that person. If you hold a grudge and maintain the pain it will take precedence in your thinking. It will harden your emotions and make it more difficult to exercise your will to remain in relationship with God through Christ. In the second sense it is social and in the physical realm of law. Evil must be and is punished, even unto death, by the authority established by God for the good of mankind. I stand with lawrocket, there is mentally ill and there is evil. There is a spiritual world that advocates forgiveness and there is a physical world that requires punishment. There is always the possibility for salvation. Ted Bundy was executed for his murders but he died a Christian.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #211 June 20, 2015 >Do you not agree with me that someone who would sit there premeditate a murder >then carry it out is mentally ill? No. Some people are just plain evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #212 June 20, 2015 RonD1120 I, being a compassionate conservative, call for the death penalty. Put him alongside James Holmes in CO and take them both out at the same time; use a firing squad, with .50 caliber rifles. I somehow do not think the Lord would approve... he has a rather different perspective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #213 June 20, 2015 Anvilbrother***>When someone goes out and kills people like this it's the mental issue doing the killing . . . Unless he is black or Arab. Then it is terrorism or just plain evil. Your right the media does play those tunes, and it resonates with whatever viewership is watching it. Do you not agree with me that someone who would sit there premeditate a murder then carry it out is mentally ill? Is racial hatred a mental illness recognized by the shrinks??? It seems some of his fellow travelers are now turning their backs on this dipshit. WTF???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #214 June 20, 2015 AnvilbrotherSo it's completely sane to murder 9 people then? He may well be mentally ill. But premeditated murder alone doesn't prove that. Not by a long shot.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #215 June 20, 2015 See posts #209, #210Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #216 June 20, 2015 Quote........................Alexander H. Stephens, Vice President of the Confederacy, March 21, 1861 How you can tie that to what I wrote is a leap I didn't even think you were capable of. C'mon professor, you're better than that. Besides, that was 1861, last time I checked, this is 2015. Did you discover time travel? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #217 June 20, 2015 lawrocket***So it's completely sane to murder 9 people then? Yes. Mentally ill people don't worry me. Sociopaths do. Wait. Sociopaths aren't mentally ill?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #218 June 20, 2015 BoomerdogQuote........................Alexander H. Stephens, Vice President of the Confederacy, March 21, 1861 How you can tie that to what I wrote is a leap I didn't even think you were capable of. C'mon professor, you're better than that. Besides, that was 1861, last time I checked, this is 2015. Did you discover time travel? The Confederate flag, which still flies at the SC Capitol in 2015, dates to the 1860s and symbolizes the racist views expressed by the VP of the Confederacy. Roof had the flag symbol on his vehicle. If you are unable to see the linkage it's not my fault.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #219 June 20, 2015 turtlespeed******So it's completely sane to murder 9 people then? Yes. Mentally ill people don't worry me. Sociopaths do. Wait. Sociopaths aren't mentally ill? Not really. One can expand it and say "mentally ill." Sociopath is more of a personality type. Psychopath is also kinda interchangeable. Watch Dexter. A great example. He feels no emotion for anyone. Not mental illness. Compared to so.eone hearing voices. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,445 #220 June 20, 2015 Hi John, QuoteIf you are unable to see the linkage it's not my fault. Or: If you refuse to see the linkage it's not my fault. FIFY, Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #221 June 20, 2015 JerryBaumchenHi John, QuoteIf you are unable to see the linkage it's not my fault. Or: If you refuse to see the linkage it's not my fault. FIFY, Jerry Baumchen Well now someone else can't see the linkage... Gov Perry has waded in... it was an accident... more foot in mouth disease. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rick-perry-calls-charleston-shooting-an-accident/ar-AAbRarY?ocid=mailsignout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #222 June 20, 2015 JerryBaumchenHi John, QuoteIf you are unable to see the linkage it's not my fault. Or: If you refuse to see the linkage it's not my fault. FIFY, Jerry Baumchen Hanlon's Razor, Jerry.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #223 June 20, 2015 Sociopathy is not a mental illness and neither is psychopathology. Both types can be very rational in their thought processes. They just do not care how their behavior affects others.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,445 #224 June 20, 2015 Hi Jeanne, Quote ... it was an accident... Well, I for one am really glad that his staff cleared that up; 'It was an incident." Ya, sure it was. And some people actually want this nitwit to be President. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #225 June 20, 2015 kallend***Yea it sucks, but don't blame him he's the victim here. You respond to your environment, and yes the US is full of shit stains that would rather steal and kill than get a job and work. We were in the grocery store Tuesday getting food for the baseball game and when we got to the front of the store to check out there was about 9 cop cars everywhere. They had just been robbed. My house has been broken into 2 times in 10 years, and another time just the storage shed was pried open. The fire station where I work at was robbed once and computers were taken, and another station was held at knife point until the guys working agreed to drive the guy across town and drop him off. My inlaws were robbed by the home health nurse that was taking care of my invalid father in law. A couple months ago my coworker had his front door kicked in and tv and Xbox stolen. I can name dozens of other recent incidents. And this isn't even talking about the violent crimes and murders. Fortunately I live and work on the south side of Chicago, so I have no such problems. Still trying to sell that Bad Bad Leroy Brown address? Indiana is on the south side of Chicago as well.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
