Planned Parenthood and the term "slippery slope" .

[JohnnyMarko 1]

I like when he replies to his own posts. Or replies multiple times to someone else's same post. It's kinda cute. Like when a child keeps shoving a toy in your face, but you have no intention of playing with the little fucker.

[billvon 3,006]

>Not sure where you got this one but at this point I no longer care

Oh, you do care; I expect another dozen posts or so from you on this topic.

The issue is that you try to use emotion to make your case. Rather than express a rational argument you say "look at this picture! LOOK! If the picture is disgusting you must oppose this heinous practice."

But so is dissecting cadavers. It's disgusting. (I won't go into stories; you'll have to trust me on this.) You could argue against that the same way. "Look at this picture! LOOK! It's someone's eyeball cut open! If you find it disgusting you must oppose this heinous practice."

Same argument, same validity.

[rushmc 23]

Actually I am posting facts
Not that this matters to you

you on the otherhand are useing the tried and proven attack and lable method to try and stifle the debate

Fact is PP is altering abortions to provide baby parts to sell
that in and of itself is against federal law

So, my post stands Bill
I no longer care what you think abou this because you are using emotion and attack

I look forward to calling me exteme again

Fits it all to a tee

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

I no longer care what you think abou this because you are using emotion and attack

Irony score 100%

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

Fact is PP is altering abortions to provide baby parts to sell
that in and of itself is against federal law

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,006]

>Actually I am posting facts

Like these truthy "facts:"

"That is what ripping babies apart has come too"
"Have you watched any of the videos?"
"I could not watch the vids Made me sick"
"It is a bunch of sick depraved people altering abortion processes "
" . . . .up until the point babies are murdered for profit! "
"The very sick postions that you have to fall back on to cover you butt "
"I would call late third term abortions murder "
" . . . .by butchering up babies to sell parts "
"NO ONE is a smart ah (you think) you are"
"Have you seen any of the videos "
"4rth Video released today "
"Just see the first couple of minutes "
" LMFOA Run away run away"
"I am ignoring YOUR fanstisy world reality "
"Gotta call the unborn baby fetus to sell it to yourself huh.... "
"You have stirred up the shit storm radicals now!!! "
"Your the duped one with talking points "
"Same bs you use for republicans running for pres."
"The closer to the truth the more apaplectic you become"
"You are consistant And desperate "
"You are wrong But then you dont care..."

>you on the otherhand are useing the tried and proven attack and lable
>method to try and stifle the debate

Nope. I am not insisting people watch disgusting videos. I am not cherrypicking transcripts. (In fact, when I started posting additional parts of a transcript you linked to, you got annoyed.) I am not constantly moving the goalposts of my argument. I am not calling people "shit storm radicals" or "apaplectic" or using terms like "sick depraved people" who are "murdering for profit." That's your schtick.

I am pointing out that PP does not make a profit, and what they are doing is legal. And that drives you to call people "desperate" and "duped" - and insist they watch disgusting videos. So be it.

[JohnnyMarko 1]

Mic drop

[rushmc 23]

No, what they're doing is not legal

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[headoverheels 333]

rushmc

No, what they're doing is not legal

They have not been shown to be doing anything illegal. To what, specifically, are you referring?

[headoverheels 333]

rushmc

Fact is PP is altering abortions to provide baby parts to sell
that in and of itself is against federal law

No, that is not true. Not true. Get it, not true. The actor in the videos asked PP whether they could change the technique of suction used, and the PP representative said that they would have to check with the surgeon. Nothing was agreed, nothing was done.

[tonyhays 86]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/american-abortion-rate-decline/395960/

Your side of the abortion debate should be celebrating.

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American women are having significantly fewer abortions than in the past. Since 2010, the Associated Press recently reported, the number of abortions nationwide has decreased by about 12 percent. This decline has been happening, slowly and steadily, for a quarter of a century: Since 1990, the rate of abortions has fallen by more than a third, and the raw number of abortions has fallen by more than half.

This whole PP video nonsense smells like republican propaganda to me. Nothing like reviving an emotional debate to mobilise your voting base.

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[kallend 2,027]

rushmc

No, what they're doing is not legal

Well, the deviousness, misrepresentations and downright lies of the CMP doctored videos have been exposed.

Anyone who hitched their wagon to these liars should be embarrassed.

www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-inside-the-anti-abortion-video-20150828-column.html

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[tonyhays 86]

Crickets in here since that was posted......

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[rushmc 23]

tonyhays

Crickets in here since that was posted......

Actually
His post is not correct

More still to come.......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 806]

Now you're just just lying.
You really should stop embarrassing yourself.

[Amazon 7]

normiss

Now you're just just lying.
You really should stop embarrassing yourself.

I am sure there are those "praying on it" for a better re-edit to try and make their case....

[jakee 1,500]

rushmc

***Crickets in here since that was posted......

Actually
His post is not correct

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Low-information viewers and anti-abortion zealots are vulnerable to being swayed by such carnival-barker techniques.

Oh hey, look who was swayed. What a shock!

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[turtlespeed 221]

jakee

******Crickets in here since that was posted......

Actually
His post is not correct

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Low-information viewers and anti-abortion zealots are vulnerable to being swayed by such carnival-barker techniques.

Oh hey, look who was swayed. What a shock!

Why did you allow yourself to be swayed?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[jakee 1,500]

There is no way in which that logically follows. On every level it is a terrible comeback.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 3,006]

>There is no way in which that logically follows. On every level it is a terrible
>comeback.

I know you are but what am . . . uh . . . what level am I on?

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

billvon

>There is no way in which that logically follows. On every level it is a terrible
>comeback.

I know you are but what am . . . uh . . . what level am I on?

Pee Wee Herman level.

Which is probably 3 or 4 levels higher than certain people on here.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[Amazon 7]

Here's your real slippery slope


"This is an appalling act of violence towards Planned Parenthood, but unfortunately a predictable ripple effect from the false and incendiary attacks that fuel violence from extremists," Karl Eastlund, CEO of Planned Parenthood of Greater Washington and North Idaho, said in a statement.


Get the right wing very ill named "right to life" whackjobs all ginned up and this is what you get...

[tonyhays 86]

Quote

More still to come.......

Probably more evidence this is fabricated bullshit

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[turtlespeed 221]

tonyhays

Quote

More still to come.......

Probably more evidence this is fabricated bullshit

Evidence?

I haven't seen any evidence.

I see grandstanding and CYA.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[headoverheels 333]

turtlespeed

Evidence?

I haven't seen any evidence.

Then you have not looked. Other than the fact that PP provides fetal tissue to others for research, all the rest is fabricated. Some of the PP affiliates donate the tissue (bear the expenses themselves), some charge an amount which approximately covers the expense. No violations of law have been shown to happen. It is simply people with an anti-abortion agenda, who have themselves suggested illegal activities, which were not agreed to by PP, and never implemented, who then edited videos to make it look otherwise. I could easily edit clips from your posts in this thread to make it look like you support abortion and selling of parts from full term babies.