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billvon, you have to profile the suspects and then find the perp.

In my case the scenario would go something like this:

LEO: Sir, stop and keep your hands where I can see them.
Me: Yes sir.
LEO: Are you carrying a weapon?
Me: Yes sir, I have a CC permit.
LEO: Where is it?
Me: I would ID the weapon and its location.
LEO: Let me see your ID and permit.
Me: Yes sir. Then I would comply.
LEO: Examining my credentials, he would hand them back and say, have a nice day Mr. Schott.
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billvon, you have to profile the suspects and then find the perp.

In my case the scenario would go something like this:

LEO: Sir, stop and keep your hands where I can see them.
Me: Yes sir.
LEO: Are you carrying a weapon?
Me: Yes sir, I have a CC permit.
LEO: Where is it?
Me: I would ID the weapon and its location.
LEO: Let me see your ID and permit.
Me: Yes sir. Then I would comply.
LEO: Examining my credentials, he would hand them back and say, have a nice day Mr. Schott.



If the exact same conversation were had, but you were black and wearing a hoodie, would you expect to be frisked anyway? You know, just to check there weren't any drugs or undeclared weapons on your person.


And a further question - if in your initial scenario the officer frisked you anyway (along with anyone you are with), would you be OK with that?

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>LEO: Examining my credentials, he would hand them back and say, have a nice day Mr. Schott.

No, he would say:

"OUT OF THE CAR! Hands on the hood!"

He would then proceed to search you and your car. If you have nothing illegal, you would then be on your way. If, of course, you did not comply quickly, or reached for your door handle, you might be shot. After all, that cop just wants to go home to his family at the end of his shift.

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RonD1120

billvon, you have to profile the suspects and then find the perp.

In my case the scenario would go something like this:

LEO: Sir, stop and keep your hands where I can see them.
Me: Yes sir.
LEO: Are you carrying a weapon?
Me: Yes sir, I have a CC permit.
LEO: Where is it?
Me: I would ID the weapon and its location.
LEO: Let me see your ID and permit.
Me: Yes sir. Then I would comply.
LEO: Examining my credentials, he would hand them back and say, have a nice day Mr. Schott.



"Stop and frisk" actually involves being frisked.
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kallend

***billvon, you have to profile the suspects and then find the perp.

In my case the scenario would go something like this:

LEO: Sir, stop and keep your hands where I can see them.
Me: Yes sir.
LEO: Are you carrying a weapon?
Me: Yes sir, I have a CC permit.
LEO: Where is it?
Me: I would ID the weapon and its location.
LEO: Let me see your ID and permit.
Me: Yes sir. Then I would comply.
LEO: Examining my credentials, he would hand them back and say, have a nice day Mr. Schott.



"Stop and frisk" actually involves being frisked.

:D:D

"Stop and ask if they want to be frisked"

The most PC police policy ever.

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billvon

>LEO: Examining my credentials, he would hand them back and say, have a nice day Mr. Schott.

No, he would say:

"OUT OF THE CAR! Hands on the hood!"

He would then proceed to search you and your car. If you have nothing illegal, you would then be on your way. If, of course, you did not comply quickly, or reached for your door handle, you might be shot. After all, that cop just wants to go home to his family at the end of his shift.



I assumed walking on the street.

In a vehicle, I would have my hands on the steering wheel where he could see them. He would first ask for my driver license. That is protocol. I would hand him my driver license and CC permit at the same time. That is also protocol.
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***billvon, you have to profile the suspects and then find the perp.

In my case the scenario would go something like this:

LEO: Sir, stop and keep your hands where I can see them.
Me: Yes sir.
LEO: Are you carrying a weapon?
Me: Yes sir, I have a CC permit.
LEO: Where is it?
Me: I would ID the weapon and its location.
LEO: Let me see your ID and permit.
Me: Yes sir. Then I would comply.
LEO: Examining my credentials, he would hand them back and say, have a nice day Mr. Schott.



If the exact same conversation were had, but you were black and wearing a hoodie, would you expect to be frisked anyway? You know, just to check there weren't any drugs or undeclared weapons on your person.


And a further question - if in your initial scenario the officer frisked you anyway (along with anyone you are with), would you be OK with that?

If I were black I would not dress like a thug.
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And if you were a woman, you wouldn't dress like a hussy, right? As a white guy, you're used to being the one who sets the standards that others have to conform to.

And you can't understand why women (like me) don't react well to that, and try to dominate you, and just generally act like bitches. Kind of like how black people are OK as long as they're respectful of your position, and try to look like you.

You no longer set the standard in more and more of America.
I don't either (of course as a woman, I never did).

People don't have to be like you in order to be good, valuable, people.

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Rick

I did not know there was a uniform for thugs



I picked it up from the CCTV footage on the news broadcasts.
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billvon

>I did not know there was a uniform for thugs

"Dress like a thug" generally means clothes worn by a black person.



Not in my line of work. White, black, brown thugs seemed to prefer that mode of dress equally.
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And if you were a woman, you wouldn't dress like a hussy, right? As a white guy, you're used to being the one who sets the standards that others have to conform to.

And you can't understand why women (like me) don't react well to that, and try to dominate you, and just generally act like bitches. Kind of like how black people are OK as long as they're respectful of your position, and try to look like you.

You no longer set the standard in more and more of America.
I don't either (of course as a woman, I never did).

People don't have to be like you in order to be good, valuable, people.

Wendy P.



I know how to dress to avoid suspicion. I was being used as a hypothetical character for the other lefties to goad me into saying I wouldn't want to be frisked.

I don't care if I am frisked. LEOs are my friends and I know how to act in their presence. When someone is guilty they tend to act guilty. That is what profiling is all about. It seems that most of you lefties are guilty of something and fear being found out. Not my circus, not my monkeys.
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RonD1120

***>I did not know there was a uniform for thugs

"Dress like a thug" generally means clothes worn by a black person.



Not in my line of work. White, black, brown thugs seemed to prefer that mode of dress equally.

Thugs don't always dress like thugs. And some people who dress like thugs aren't thugs, maybe they just like the style. You never know. Sure there are some styles that makes them easy to spot/profile, but you just can't make a blanket assessment of people just by the way they dress.

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******>I did not know there was a uniform for thugs

"Dress like a thug" generally means clothes worn by a black person.



Not in my line of work. White, black, brown thugs seemed to prefer that mode of dress equally.

Thugs don't always dress like thugs. And some people who dress like thugs aren't thugs, maybe they just like the style. You never know. Sure there are some styles that makes them easy to spot/profile, but you just can't make a blanket assessment of people just by the way they dress.

I didn't billvon did.

But speaking of hoodies, why did Charlie Hunnam always wear a hoodie under his cut in Sons of Anarchy? Because it defined his character, Jax Teller, as a thug.

Com'on guys you gotta get smarter than this, really.
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normiss

I have a few hoodies, they work very well for cooler weather.
Rather normal outerwear in the northeast as well.

Speaking of getting smarter.....



I can't tell for sure if Ron is trolling us or if he is for real.
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I have a few hoodies, they work very well for cooler weather.
Rather normal outerwear in the northeast as well.

Speaking of getting smarter.....



As do I. Would you wear yours on Orange Blossom Trail in Orlando late at night? I wouldn't, it would be stupid.
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***I have a few hoodies, they work very well for cooler weather.
Rather normal outerwear in the northeast as well.

Speaking of getting smarter.....



I can't tell for sure if Ron is trolling us or if he is for real.

I am simply replying with honest answers to lefty bait.
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