RonD1120 62 #2026 March 7, 2018 nolhtairt***QuoteIt could be, until you're facing multiple armed robbers. And a 10 shot clip would help you how? You would still only be able to get off a single shot. What you would likely do is drop your weapon, raise your hands, and hand over what ever the nice robbers wanted. Unless you are just plain stupid. And suppose the nice robbers decide to off you anyway. It happens. But hey, if you're ready to die without a fight... I CC one personal weapon to give me a chance against armed robbery. My AR-15 is available as a member of a well regulated militia.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2027 March 7, 2018 jcd11235***But hey, if you're ready to die without a fight... No gun does not imply no fight. Relying on a brain is virtually always a better strategy than relying on a bullet. Unless you are too old to run and too old to get your ass whipped.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deyan 36 #2028 March 7, 2018 Here is one good example how [sarcasm]gun control doesn't stop mass shootings[/sarcasm] https://dutchreview.com/news/us/crazy-guy-attacks-school-no-one-gets-hurt-isnt-us/ Mentally disturbed 44 years old entered a school in The Netherlands and killed 19 kids. Except, it didn't happen because the guy had no access to guns. All he had was 2 kitchen knifes.....and nobody got hurt! See, gun control doesn't work!"My belief is that once the doctor whacks you on the butt, all guarantees are off" Jerry Baumchen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #2029 March 7, 2018 RonD1120Unless you are too old to run and too old to get your ass whipped. Especially in those situations.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #2030 March 7, 2018 QuoteI CC one personal weapon to give me a chance against armed robbery. Whatcha gonna do when the thug has the drop on you? Which any armed robber is going to have. I'll bet you carry that heater around just dreaming of the day you can be a hero. But the chances are pretty good you'll be a dead hero.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2031 March 7, 2018 DeyanHere is one good example how [sarcasm]gun control doesn't stop mass shootings[/sarcasm] https://dutchreview.com/news/us/crazy-guy-attacks-school-no-one-gets-hurt-isnt-us/ Mentally disturbed 44 years old entered a school in The Netherlands and killed 19 kids. Except, it didn't happen because the guy had no access to guns. All he had was 2 kitchen knifes.....and nobody got hurt! See, gun control doesn't work! I posted the video earlier in this thread. It will get completely ignored. Only time video with knifes are used is when they show multiple fatalities, cause then it supports their need for guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deyan 36 #2032 March 7, 2018 SkyDekker***Here is one good example how [sarcasm]gun control doesn't stop mass shootings[/sarcasm] https://dutchreview.com/news/us/crazy-guy-attacks-school-no-one-gets-hurt-isnt-us/ Mentally disturbed 44 years old entered a school in The Netherlands and killed 19 kids. Except, it didn't happen because the guy had no access to guns. All he had was 2 kitchen knifes.....and nobody got hurt! See, gun control doesn't work! I posted the video earlier in this thread. It will get completely ignored. Only time video with knifes are used is when they show multiple fatalities, cause then it supports their need for guns. Sorry for the repost. I just saw it, but your link doesn't work."My belief is that once the doctor whacks you on the butt, all guarantees are off" Jerry Baumchen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2033 March 7, 2018 Priceless. The youtube video showing school kids fighting back against a man with two knifes has been removed because of YouTube's position on bullying and harassment. Thanks for the repost! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #2034 March 7, 2018 When seconds count the police are only minutes away.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #2035 March 7, 2018 RonD1120******QuoteIt could be, until you're facing multiple armed robbers. And a 10 shot clip would help you how? You would still only be able to get off a single shot. What you would likely do is drop your weapon, raise your hands, and hand over what ever the nice robbers wanted. Unless you are just plain stupid. And suppose the nice robbers decide to off you anyway. It happens. But hey, if you're ready to die without a fight... I CC one personal weapon to give me a chance against armed robbery. . Why do you live in such a nasty, hostile, crime infested neighborhood?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #2036 March 7, 2018 >The difference is, most gun enthusiasts who spend time at shooting ranges are >responsible gun owners. So people who shoot real guns at human shaped targets and who oppose violence - responsible, good people. People who shoot fake guns at human (and alien, and robot) targets and who oppose violence - hypocrites. Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2037 March 7, 2018 gowlerkQuoteI CC one personal weapon to give me a chance against armed robbery. Whatcha gonna do when the thug has the drop on you? Which any armed robber is going to have. I'll bet you carry that heater around just dreaming of the day you can be a hero. But the chances are pretty good you'll be a dead hero. You say that like it would be a bad thing.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2038 March 7, 2018 kallend*********QuoteIt could be, until you're facing multiple armed robbers. And a 10 shot clip would help you how? You would still only be able to get off a single shot. What you would likely do is drop your weapon, raise your hands, and hand over what ever the nice robbers wanted. Unless you are just plain stupid. And suppose the nice robbers decide to off you anyway. It happens. But hey, if you're ready to die without a fight... I CC one personal weapon to give me a chance against armed robbery. . Why do you live in such a nasty, hostile, crime infested neighborhood? It is for when I go into the lowland cities, or FL.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #2039 March 7, 2018 RonD1120 It is for when I go into the lowland cities, or FL. Remarkable. I was in Tampa, Orlando and Miami quite a lot last year and didn't get mugged or shot once. Must have just dodged that bullet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #2040 March 7, 2018 QuoteYou say that like it would be a bad thing. It would be bad for me. I guess you can try. I hope you don't shoot by by-standers. QuoteAre you worth the effort? God says, Yes. Your peers say, No. BTW, what makes you think my peers think that way of me?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #2041 March 7, 2018 QuoteRemarkable. I was in Tampa, Orlando and Miami quite a lot last year and didn't get mugged or shot once. Must have just dodged that bullet. Kallend December 2007: QuoteFunny, I drive and walk though Chicago every day (and have done for 30 years) and never needed a gun. Nor do I ever expect to. Yep, as much as people that are anti-gun try and say it is a big problem, it really isn't. It makes for big news, so it alters our perception of the magnitude of the issue. Derek V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2042 March 7, 2018 gowlerkQuoteYou say that like it would be a bad thing. It would be bad for me. I guess you can try. I hope you don't shoot by by-standers. ***Are you worth the effort? God says, Yes. Your peers say, No. BTW, what makes you think my peers think that way of me? I need to change that signature. I was referring to salvation. Probably does not apply to you or your peers. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2043 March 7, 2018 HooknswoopQuoteRemarkable. I was in Tampa, Orlando and Miami quite a lot last year and didn't get mugged or shot once. Must have just dodged that bullet. Kallend December 2007: ***Funny, I drive and walk though Chicago every day (and have done for 30 years) and never needed a gun. Nor do I ever expect to. Yep, as much as people that are anti-gun try and say it is a big problem, it really isn't. It makes for big news, so it alters our perception of the magnitude of the issue. Derek V Yeah a mass shooting a day really isn't such a big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #2044 March 7, 2018 HooknswoopQuoteRemarkable. I was in Tampa, Orlando and Miami quite a lot last year and didn't get mugged or shot once. Must have just dodged that bullet. Kallend December 2007: ***Funny, I drive and walk though Chicago every day (and have done for 30 years) and never needed a gun. Nor do I ever expect to. Yep, as much as people that are anti-gun try and say it is a big problem, it really isn't. It makes for big news, so it alters our perception of the magnitude of the issue. Derek V But now you're agreeing with the argument that people don't need guns for self defense. I know you don't think that, that was kind of a "gotcha". The point being made is that these guys and most people don't live in the realm of being at risk of gun violence but that doesn't mean they don't want others to be at risk."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #2045 March 7, 2018 RonD1120************QuoteIt could be, until you're facing multiple armed robbers. And a 10 shot clip would help you how? You would still only be able to get off a single shot. What you would likely do is drop your weapon, raise your hands, and hand over what ever the nice robbers wanted. Unless you are just plain stupid. And suppose the nice robbers decide to off you anyway. It happens. But hey, if you're ready to die without a fight... I CC one personal weapon to give me a chance against armed robbery. . Why do you live in such a nasty, hostile, crime infested neighborhood? It is for when I go into the lowland cities, or FL. Bull. You pack it everyday, you've previously said. Just like putting on your undies in the morning, it's part of your dress routine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #2046 March 7, 2018 QuoteDiscernment is not being able to see the difference between right and wrong. It is seeing the difference between what is right and what is almost right. ~M. Rosenthal I'm not sure who Rosental was or is, but that quote is generally credited to Charles H Spurgeon.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #2047 March 7, 2018 QuoteYeah a mass shooting a day really isn't such a big deal. Not compared to other cause of death statistics. Derek V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #2048 March 7, 2018 Quote But now you're agreeing with the argument that people don't need guns for self defense. I know you don't think that, that was kind of a "gotcha". The point being made is that these guys and most people don't live in the realm of being at risk of gun violence but that doesn't mean they don't want others to be at risk. No, I was pointing out the discrepancy in those that want gun restrictions. They do not feel unsafe walking around, but "we have to do something!". Derek V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #2049 March 7, 2018 QuoteNo, I was pointing out the discrepancy in those that want gun restrictions. They do not feel unsafe walking around, but "we have to do something!". America absolutely does not have to do anything to reduce the number of firearms. You've been doing nothing about it for a long time now, and chances are you will continue to do nothing. A large number of you are emotionally attached to the freedom to have nearly unlimited access to weapons. And it's not really a priority issue for those who disagree. As I keep saying, America has largely decided to just accept the death toll. After all, it's only the killing of children that attracts much attention anymore. And the chances that it will be your child next is very small. The Vegas killing of 50 or so? It was not long ago and it's already barely mentioned anymore. Until the ruling class feels threatened America's embrace of the tools of war will continue unabated. Just hope you or your loved one does not become a victim. The death rate by firearms in America is roughly 5 times that in Canada. A country with fairly liberal gun laws overall. But the truth is that more than half of your gun deaths are suicides. And no one really counts them as victims. But as you count your arsenal, and your chest swells up with pride as you score a close group on the range, remember. Several people died today who would still be alive if gun restrictions were imposed. But I know.....Freedom.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2050 March 7, 2018 gowlerkQuoteDiscernment is not being able to see the difference between right and wrong. It is seeing the difference between what is right and what is almost right. ~M. Rosenthal I'm not sure who Rosental was or is, but that quote is generally credited to Charles H Spurgeon. Good catch! Marvin Rosenthal quoted Spurgeon in a recent article.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites