jcd11235 0 #2401 May 5, 2018 Hooknswoop"It's a remarkable drop in a city long plagued by gun violence. In April, there were 29% fewer shootings and 21% fewer killings …" Only a fool would treat a month over month change as a trend in crime rates.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #2402 May 5, 2018 “Chicago killings and shootings drop for 14th consecutive month” Didn’t read the article, or even the headline, did you? Derek V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #2403 May 5, 2018 HooknswoopDidn’t read the article, or even the headline, did you? I read and commented only the meaningless drivel you posted.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #2404 May 5, 2018 The FACT remains that despite the recent modest drop, murders in Chicago are still some 50% higher now than in the decade prior to the big relaxation of gun laws.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #2405 May 5, 2018 kallend The FACT remains that despite the recent modest drop, murders in Chicago are still some 50% higher now than in the decade prior to the big relaxation of gun laws. We know that crime rates correlate negatively with the quantity of gun restrictions. We also know that no gun advocate who has any understanding of statistics would hold up Chicago as a source of data to support their position.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 5 #2406 May 13, 2018 Has ANYTHING changed in these type of discussions since I've been away? Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #2407 May 14, 2018 dannydan Has ANYTHING changed in these type of discussions since I've been away? Lol Nope. Same old regurgitation of the same old bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #2408 May 14, 2018 Australia finally had a second mass shooting in the 22 years since enforcing gun restrictions. In the same time period there was no one to one replacement of mass knife attacks, car attacks, etc. equating to a per capita rate of US mass shootings. The fact is that restricting gun access without banning guns has made it difficult enough to commit these acts that the numbers dropped. https://www.yahoo.com/news/grandfather-suspect-australia-mass-shooting-official-063951577.html"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Church 7 #2409 May 14, 2018 DJLAustralia finally had a second mass shooting in the 22 years since enforcing gun restrictions. In the same time period there was no one to one replacement of mass knife attacks, car attacks, etc. equating to a per capita rate of US mass shootings. The fact is that restricting gun access without banning guns has made it difficult enough to commit these acts that the numbers dropped. https://www.yahoo.com/news/grandfather-suspect-australia-mass-shooting-official-063951577.html I'm kind of holding my breath about Australia. In every gun control debate the fact of Australia never having mass shooting incidents comes up. It seems a lot like painting a target on the country. Every country has bitter twisted people and you can see the thought balloon over their heads thinking "hey, if I shoot up a school in Perth that would really make world wide news." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #2410 May 14, 2018 Bob_Church***Australia finally had a second mass shooting in the 22 years since enforcing gun restrictions. In the same time period there was no one to one replacement of mass knife attacks, car attacks, etc. equating to a per capita rate of US mass shootings. The fact is that restricting gun access without banning guns has made it difficult enough to commit these acts that the numbers dropped. https://www.yahoo.com/news/grandfather-suspect-australia-mass-shooting-official-063951577.html I'm kind of holding my breath about Australia. In every gun control debate the fact of Australia never having mass shooting incidents comes up. It seems a lot like painting a target on the country. Every country has bitter twisted people and you can see the thought balloon over their heads thinking "hey, if I shoot up a school in Perth that would really make world wide news." Australia had been having a improved crime rate and improved gun-crime rate so I don't think it's a good example to look at for those items. I think this points a finger towards overall gun deaths being a factor of access to guns but even more so a factor of how well the country deals with crime. It definitely IS something to say that their rate of mass shootings is vastly less than ours and they have not had an indiscriminate mass shooting since 1966."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Church 7 #2411 May 16, 2018 Phrasing please! From an article at CBS I just read. "According to the offense report, Glover and his wife were having an altercation after the third round of The Players Championship, where Glover shot 78" Fortunately, she was yelling at him over his golf score, not number of dead bodies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,191 #2412 May 18, 2018 Another big day for GunRights ™. Congratulations again NRA and America. Thoughts and prayers Santa Fe, TX.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #2413 May 18, 2018 gowlerkAnother big day for GunRights ™. Congratulations again NRA and America. Thoughts and prayers Santa Fe, TX. Wow, the worst mass shooting in USA since February. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #2414 May 18, 2018 I googled 'US School shooting' this morning when I heard the news. There were three that popped up that I hadn't even heard about. JUST THIS WEEK. They didn't even make the news. Seriously, until it's your kid, no-one seems to care anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #2415 May 18, 2018 Yes, I noted the same when I Googled. I see CNN briefly interrupted their royal wedding coverage to note the shooting, but were back to royal wedding coverage quite quickly."Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Church 7 #2416 May 18, 2018 RMKYes, I noted the same when I Googled. I see CNN briefly interrupted their royal wedding coverage to note the shooting, but were back to royal wedding coverage quite quickly. I have a friend in, I think Sheffield, if it's outside of London I have trouble remembering) and he posted in disgust the way the wedding trumps everything. No ill will towards the Royal Couple, just the way the news is being prioritized. I don't share his surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #2417 May 18, 2018 Bob_Church ***Yes, I noted the same when I Googled. I see CNN briefly interrupted their royal wedding coverage to note the shooting, but were back to royal wedding coverage quite quickly. I have a friend in, I think Sheffield, if it's outside of London I have trouble remembering) and he posted in disgust the way the wedding trumps everything. No ill will towards the Royal Couple, just the way the news is being prioritized. I don't share his surprise. The forthcoming wedding has what to do with the 22nd mass shooting 2018 in the US? Perhaps as the *....way the wedding trumps everything.*??? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #2418 May 18, 2018 christelsabine ******Yes, I noted the same when I Googled. I see CNN briefly interrupted their royal wedding coverage to note the shooting, but were back to royal wedding coverage quite quickly. I have a friend in, I think Sheffield, if it's outside of London I have trouble remembering) and he posted in disgust the way the wedding trumps everything. No ill will towards the Royal Couple, just the way the news is being prioritized. I don't share his surprise. The forthcoming wedding has what to do with the 22nd mass shooting 2018 in the US? Perhaps as the *....way the wedding trumps everything.*??? In the US, children killing children with AR-15's, bombs, etc. is not newsworthy enough anymore. If covered, a short break to report number killed, injured, etc. Then back to other sound bites that appeal to a broader tribal interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #2419 May 18, 2018 I know it’s probably just me, but I hate when the media uses the term “Injured” as opposed to “Wounded” in school shootings. I thought there was an actual difference in those two words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #2420 May 18, 2018 Bob_ChurchI have a friend in, I think Sheffield, if it's outside of London I have trouble remembering) and he posted in disgust the way the wedding trumps everything. No ill will towards the Royal Couple, just the way the news is being prioritized. I don't share his surprise. You're surprised that a relatively rare event gets more news coverage than a relatively common event?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2421 May 19, 2018 gowlerkAnother big day for GunRights ™. Congratulations again NRA and America. Thoughts and prayers Santa Fe, TX. What gun do you suggest we ban this time?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #2422 May 19, 2018 rushmc***Another big day for GunRights ™. Congratulations again NRA and America. Thoughts and prayers Santa Fe, TX. What gun do you suggest we ban this time? I suppose at this point it doesn’t really matter, I think we’re just destined to have multiple school shootings a year. The “Thoughts and prayers” thing sure doesn’t seem to be working that well. I’m Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2423 May 19, 2018 jclalor******Another big day for GunRights ™. Congratulations again NRA and America. Thoughts and prayers Santa Fe, TX. What gun do you suggest we ban this time? I suppose at this point it doesn’t really matter, I think we’re just destined to have multiple school shootings a year. The “Thoughts and prayers” thing sure doesn’t seem to be working that well. I’m No we're not destined to have more school shootings. If the Liberals would stop whining and complaining about doing the right amount of security at schools we can end this pretty damn fast. There's more fucking security where I used to work then there is at most schools. And it's not that big a deal."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #2424 May 19, 2018 rushmc And it's not that big a deal. It IS that big a deal. Kids are kids. They're not adults. They deserve to have an environment that is safe to be kids in without the need for specialized security to account for adults wanting to play with guns. Here's the thing - where I went to school there was NO security. None. And that's true in just about every country that doesn't have multiple shootings in schools every week. So sure, you could lock the schools down, treat them like a prison and frisk everyone coming and going and there would probably be less events like this - But no parent in the world would want that. By adding security that you want you're treating a symptom, not the root cause. Let me ask you something - would you trade your child's life for your right to own firearms? A straight yes or no answer please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2425 May 19, 2018 Texas politicians are now suggesting that doors are the problem in school shootings. You can't make this shit up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites